NATION

PASSWORD

Left Wing Discussion Thread IV: Oh Hai Marx

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Topic locked

Was Trotsky Polyamorous?

Yes
141
58%
Yes
103
42%
 
Total votes : 244
User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:18 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Source?

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/tex ... verse%3D46

[46] And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our Allah and your Allah is One, and to Him do we submit.

Muslims reject the authority of Biblical revelation, both old and new testament.
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative ≠
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀
Top
User avatar
Liriena
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 60885
Founded: Nov 19, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Liriena » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:19 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Liriena wrote:http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/tex ... verse%3D46

[46] And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our Allah and your Allah is One, and to Him do we submit.

Muslims reject the authority of Biblical revelation, both old and new testament.

...the Quran's pretty explicit about whose god they worship.
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist		Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism

⚧Copy and paste this in your sig
if you passed biology and know
gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

I disown most of my previous posts
Top
User avatar
The Parkus Empire
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43030
Founded: Sep 12, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:22 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Muslims reject the authority of Biblical revelation, both old and new testament.

...the Quran's pretty explicit about whose god they worship.

Yes, but Quran 112:3 is an overt knock on the Christian God, and Muslims even deny that we are made in God's image, dismissing the Torah as not inspired. So equating their God with the God of Jews or Christians, is very tenuous.
Last edited by The Parkus Empire on Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
American Orthodox: one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
Jesus is Allah ن
Burkean conservative ≠
Homophobic
Anti-feminist sexist
♂Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know men and women aren't the same.♀
Top
User avatar
Jackania yugo
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1239
Founded: May 22, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Jackania yugo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:22 pm

Reikoku wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Thoth, the Egyptian god of wisdom? Khonsu isn't going to be very happy about that.


Well people have said that the Islamic God (who is also the God of the Bible) is actually a moon god.

So this means Tsukuyomi-no-mikoto is actually the god of monotheism?


Rei, what have I told you about merging with Lilith and starting third impact?

Well, time to get my positron rifle and mini mushroom...
This nation a funsion between capitalism and social democracy (the only type of socialism made to actually be incorporated into capitalist governments rather than trying to destroy it).

This nation is PMT/FT. Sometimes modern tech.

We sometimes use pokemorphs and digimon in our armed forces. Sometimes

We are technically centrist.

This nation is a reunited Yugoslavia (and also sometimes controls the UK as well).
Top
User avatar
Reikoku
Senator
 
Posts: 3645
Founded: Apr 01, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Reikoku » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:23 pm

Liriena wrote:
Reikoku wrote:Well people have said that the Islamic God (who is also the God of the Bible) is actually a moon god.

You've watched Dark Dungeons too, haven't you? :P


Can't say that I have. Read the comic though.
Top
User avatar
The Xenopolis Confederation
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9482
Founded: Aug 11, 2017
Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:01 pm

Liriena wrote:
Questers wrote:as mr hitchens said (but not about liriena): "You give me the awful impression, I hate to have to say it, of someone who hasn't read any of the arguments against your position ever."

Its always important to read sources and thinkers who are very against your position.

Been there, done that, my position remains unchanged. Kudos to me. :3

Also, as someone who used to idolize Hitchens, I'd appreciate it if we stopped idolizing him.

Why?
Pro: Liberty, Liberalism, Capitalism, Secularism, Equal opportunity, Democracy, Windows Chauvinism, Deontology, Progressive Rock, LGBT+ Rights, Live and let live tbh.
Against: Authoritarianism, Traditionalism, State Socialism, Laissez-Faire Capitalism, Autocracy, (A)Theocracy, Apple, "The ends justify the means," Collectivism in all its forms.
Nationality: Australian
Gender: MTF trans woman (she/her)
Political Ideology: If "milktoast liberalism" had a baby with "bleeding-heart libertarianism."
Discord: mellotronyellow
Top
User avatar
The Xenopolis Confederation
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9482
Founded: Aug 11, 2017
Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:02 pm

Proctopeo wrote:Since we're talking skeptics, anyone interested in hearing about the only two I actually watch (and only one consistently)?

Everyone knows xxDarkLegend1488xx is the only true skeptic.
Pro: Liberty, Liberalism, Capitalism, Secularism, Equal opportunity, Democracy, Windows Chauvinism, Deontology, Progressive Rock, LGBT+ Rights, Live and let live tbh.
Against: Authoritarianism, Traditionalism, State Socialism, Laissez-Faire Capitalism, Autocracy, (A)Theocracy, Apple, "The ends justify the means," Collectivism in all its forms.
Nationality: Australian
Gender: MTF trans woman (she/her)
Political Ideology: If "milktoast liberalism" had a baby with "bleeding-heart libertarianism."
Discord: mellotronyellow
Top
User avatar
Jackania yugo
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1239
Founded: May 22, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Jackania yugo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:06 pm

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Since we're talking skeptics, anyone interested in hearing about the only two I actually watch (and only one consistently)?

Everyone knows xxDarkLegend1488xx is the only true skeptic.


I watch computing forever.
This nation a funsion between capitalism and social democracy (the only type of socialism made to actually be incorporated into capitalist governments rather than trying to destroy it).

This nation is PMT/FT. Sometimes modern tech.

We sometimes use pokemorphs and digimon in our armed forces. Sometimes

We are technically centrist.

This nation is a reunited Yugoslavia (and also sometimes controls the UK as well).
Top
User avatar
Reikoku
Senator
 
Posts: 3645
Founded: Apr 01, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Reikoku » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:09 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:Rei, what have I told you about merging with Lilith and starting third impact?


sigh To not to.
Last edited by Reikoku on Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
User avatar
Jackania yugo
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1239
Founded: May 22, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Jackania yugo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:14 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:Rei, what have I told you about merging with Lilith and starting third impact?


sigh To not to.


I take you've watched evangelion.

Should I watch it?
This nation a funsion between capitalism and social democracy (the only type of socialism made to actually be incorporated into capitalist governments rather than trying to destroy it).

This nation is PMT/FT. Sometimes modern tech.

We sometimes use pokemorphs and digimon in our armed forces. Sometimes

We are technically centrist.

This nation is a reunited Yugoslavia (and also sometimes controls the UK as well).
Top
User avatar
Reikoku
Senator
 
Posts: 3645
Founded: Apr 01, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Reikoku » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:16 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:
Reikoku wrote:
sigh To not to.


I take you've watched evangelion.

Should I watch it?


It's in my top 3 series of all time.

Yes. Be prepared for a lot of existentialist themes which might not make sense if you haven't read Sartre though.
Top
User avatar
Jackania yugo
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1239
Founded: May 22, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Jackania yugo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:21 pm

Reikoku wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:
I take you've watched evangelion.

Should I watch it?


It's in my top 3 series of all time.

Yes. Be prepared for a lot of existentialist themes which might not make sense if you haven't read Sartre though.


Oh don't worry, I'm well aware of the mind screws.
This nation a funsion between capitalism and social democracy (the only type of socialism made to actually be incorporated into capitalist governments rather than trying to destroy it).

This nation is PMT/FT. Sometimes modern tech.

We sometimes use pokemorphs and digimon in our armed forces. Sometimes

We are technically centrist.

This nation is a reunited Yugoslavia (and also sometimes controls the UK as well).
Top
User avatar
Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16954
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Cekoviu » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:46 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Everyone knows xxDarkLegend1488xx is the only true skeptic.


I watch computing forever.

If you consider him a skeptic, I will weep. Even the fact that anyone watches him is enough to make me want to smash my head on the keyboard.
pro: women's rights
anti: men's rights
Top
User avatar
Mattopilos II
Minister
 
Posts: 2596
Founded: Feb 03, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Mattopilos II » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:59 pm

Watching someone who claims themselves as skeptics on youtube is a good way to not watch a skeptic.
Anarchist without adjectives, Post-Leftist, Anti-theist, STEM major.
“Whoever will be free must make himself free. Freedom is no fairy gift to fall into a man's lap. What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self.” - Max Stirner
“The victory of a moral ideal is achieved by the same ‘immoral’ means as every victory: force, lies, slander, injustice.” - Nietzsche
“Our duties - are the rights of others over us.” - Nietzsche
Top
User avatar
Jackania yugo
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1239
Founded: May 22, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Jackania yugo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:
I watch computing forever.

If you consider him a skeptic, I will weep. Even the fact that anyone watches him is enough to make me want to smash my head on the keyboard.


Then what is he if not a skeptic?

No, I used to watch but I've kinda lost interest.
This nation a funsion between capitalism and social democracy (the only type of socialism made to actually be incorporated into capitalist governments rather than trying to destroy it).

This nation is PMT/FT. Sometimes modern tech.

We sometimes use pokemorphs and digimon in our armed forces. Sometimes

We are technically centrist.

This nation is a reunited Yugoslavia (and also sometimes controls the UK as well).
Top
User avatar
Proctopeo
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12370
Founded: Sep 26, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Proctopeo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:04 pm

Mattopilos II wrote:Watching someone who claims themselves as skeptics on youtube is a good way to not watch a skeptic.

It's treason, then.
Arachno-anarchism || NO GODS NO MASTERS || Free NSG Odreria
Top
User avatar
Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16954
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Cekoviu » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:28 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:If you consider him a skeptic, I will weep. Even the fact that anyone watches him is enough to make me want to smash my head on the keyboard.


Then what is he if not a skeptic?

No, I used to watch but I've kinda lost interest.

More of a reactionary pseudoskeptic, tbh. I'm glad you stopped.
pro: women's rights
anti: men's rights
Top
User avatar
Jackania yugo
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1239
Founded: May 22, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Jackania yugo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:30 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:
Then what is he if not a skeptic?

No, I used to watch but I've kinda lost interest.

More of a reactionary pseudoskeptic, tbh. I'm glad you stopped.


So...is the great replacement a load of farce?
This nation a funsion between capitalism and social democracy (the only type of socialism made to actually be incorporated into capitalist governments rather than trying to destroy it).

This nation is PMT/FT. Sometimes modern tech.

We sometimes use pokemorphs and digimon in our armed forces. Sometimes

We are technically centrist.

This nation is a reunited Yugoslavia (and also sometimes controls the UK as well).
Top
User avatar
Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16954
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Cekoviu » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:34 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:More of a reactionary pseudoskeptic, tbh. I'm glad you stopped.


So...is the great replacement a load of farce?

Yes
pro: women's rights
anti: men's rights
Top
User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:51 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:More of a reactionary pseudoskeptic, tbh. I'm glad you stopped.


So...is the great replacement a load of farce?

Very much yes.
Top
User avatar
Jackania yugo
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1239
Founded: May 22, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Jackania yugo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:56 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:
So...is the great replacement a load of farce?

Very much yes.


But mass illegal immigration still poses a threat, right?
This nation a funsion between capitalism and social democracy (the only type of socialism made to actually be incorporated into capitalist governments rather than trying to destroy it).

This nation is PMT/FT. Sometimes modern tech.

We sometimes use pokemorphs and digimon in our armed forces. Sometimes

We are technically centrist.

This nation is a reunited Yugoslavia (and also sometimes controls the UK as well).
Top
User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:58 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Very much yes.


But mass illegal immigration still poses a threat, right?

Illegal immigration possibly, but the idea of the great replacement posits that all immigration is a threat.
Last edited by New Emeline on Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
User avatar
Albrenia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16619
Founded: Aug 18, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Albrenia » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:01 pm

Jackania yugo wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:More of a reactionary pseudoskeptic, tbh. I'm glad you stopped.


So...is the great replacement a load of farce?


Quite so.
Top
User avatar
Sovaal
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13695
Founded: Mar 17, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Sovaal » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:02 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:
But mass illegal immigration still poses a threat, right?

Illegal immigration possibly, but the idea of the great replacement posits that all immigration is a threat.

Unregulated immigration can be a threat, especially if it begins to overwhelm local services and I frastructure, as well as the possibility of bringing along with it diseases.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
Top
User avatar
New Emeline
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6275
Founded: Jan 16, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby New Emeline » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:03 pm

Sovaal wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Illegal immigration possibly, but the idea of the great replacement posits that all immigration is a threat.

Unregulated immigration can be a threat, especially if it begins to overwhelm local services and I frastructure, as well as the possibility of bringing along with it diseases.

None of those issues are what the great replacement theory suggests. The idea of the great replacement is basically just the white genocide conspiracy theory with nicer packaging.
Last edited by New Emeline on Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
PreviousNext
Topic locked

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Almonaster Nuevo, Featured Trump, Godular, Ifreann, ML Library, New Temecula, Outer Bratorke, Shearoa, Shrillland, Stellar Colonies, The Greater Ohio Valley, Tungstan

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Advertisement

Remove ads