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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:28 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Correct. Progress happens


Okay so this makes your last post a bit pointless.

Also, you can't just amend the Hippocratic Oath to allow for prescribed euthanasia, might as well get rid of the whole thing. Which is terribly unlikely, you realize.

The Hippocratic Oath forbids ALL euthanasia. But progress will fix that
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Postby Albrenia » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:28 pm

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That doesn't mean they died for not getting a surgery. They died because they committed suicide.

I mean the aim of suicide if successful is to die so that is a given.


It's also illegal to do in the Houses of Parliament.

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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:29 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Okay so this makes your last post a bit pointless.

Also, you can't just amend the Hippocratic Oath to allow for prescribed euthanasia, might as well get rid of the whole thing. Which is terribly unlikely, you realize.

The Hippocratic Oath forbids ALL euthanasia. But progress will fix that

By fix, you mean in a horribly ironic way right?
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Postby Mujahidah » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:29 pm

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So therefore doctors aren't forbidden by the Hippocratic Oath to do abortions, because the oath they take doesn't forbid it. Your point was meaningless.

The point is euthanasia violates it as well. But they will just amend it again


They would have to remove the whole "do no harm" thing, at which point it wouldn't even be the Hippocratic Oath anymore. The abortion bit was relatively minor, in comparison. Its not the same thing at all.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:29 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Okay so this makes your last post a bit pointless.

Also, you can't just amend the Hippocratic Oath to allow for prescribed euthanasia, might as well get rid of the whole thing. Which is terribly unlikely, you realize.

The Hippocratic Oath forbids ALL euthanasia. But progress will fix that


Jesus fucking Christ, just rename this thread and edit the OP to "Progressives are fucking stupid lol" and save us some time, you clearly are not interested in even considering the position that you might be wrong.
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Postby Mujahidah » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:29 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:The Hippocratic Oath forbids ALL euthanasia. But progress will fix that

By fix, you mean in a horribly ironic way right?


I'm fairly certain that this whole thread is sheathed in layers of irony. Except Europe becoming Muslim - that should be unironic.
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Postby Philjia » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:31 pm

We'll adapt or we'll die.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:33 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:The point is euthanasia violates it as well. But they will just amend it again


They would have to remove the whole "do no harm" thing, at which point it wouldn't even be the Hippocratic Oath anymore. The abortion bit was relatively minor, in comparison. Its not the same thing at all.

Nooo, they will just argue that euthanasia is medicinal, and therefore a matter of mercy, not harm.
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Postby Mujahidah » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:34 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
They would have to remove the whole "do no harm" thing, at which point it wouldn't even be the Hippocratic Oath anymore. The abortion bit was relatively minor, in comparison. Its not the same thing at all.

Nooo, they will just argue that euthanasia is medicinal, and therefore a matter of mercy, not harm.


Killing someone is harm. They would just scrap the oath.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:34 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Nooo, they will just argue that euthanasia is medicinal, and therefore a matter of mercy, not harm.


Killing someone is harm. They would just scrap the oath.
That's kinda his point
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:35 pm

Valrifell wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:The Hippocratic Oath forbids ALL euthanasia. But progress will fix that


Jesus fucking Christ, just rename this thread and edit the OP to "Progressives are fucking stupid lol" and save us some time, you clearly are not interested in even considering the position that you might be wrong.

I am sure you are much more open-minded. That's why you aren't a conservative, a position unworthy of consideration
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:36 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Nooo, they will just argue that euthanasia is medicinal, and therefore a matter of mercy, not harm.


Killing someone is harm. They would just scrap the oath.

No, liberals who want legalize euthanasia don't see it that way.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:36 pm

Valrifell wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:The Hippocratic Oath forbids ALL euthanasia. But progress will fix that


Jesus fucking Christ, just rename this thread and edit the OP to "Progressives are fucking stupid lol" and save us some time, you clearly are not interested in even considering the position that you might be wrong.

That might be because this thread is a giant meme fest, and I am saying that seriously. Look at his other threads where he is actually serious this one is just him shitposting.
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Postby Mujahidah » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:38 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Killing someone is harm. They would just scrap the oath.

No, liberals who want legalize euthanasia don't see it that way.


Many doctors are liberals. Doctors are the loudest group of people (save religious organizations) who oppose Euthanasia. Clearly, 'liberals' are not this monolithic straw man you present them as for the sake of feeling smart.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:39 pm

Valrifell wrote:
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Apparently nobody told you that you shouldn't leave yourself open rhetorically either :^]


This is technically a two-way street, you realize. While I left myself open rhetorically by sarcastically saying that thing I said, you've kind of been caught selectively applying when you think of the children.

So, double edged sword?


Not at all, I can claim to still be defending them. Euthanasia is pure death :^]

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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:40 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
This is technically a two-way street, you realize. While I left myself open rhetorically by sarcastically saying that thing I said, you've kind of been caught selectively applying when you think of the children.

So, double edged sword?


Not at all, I can claim to still be defending them. Euthanasia is pure death :^]

I mean if the aim is to avoid a rather unpleasant death then isn't that the point?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:41 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:No, liberals who want legalize euthanasia don't see it that way.


Many doctors are liberals. Doctors are the loudest group of people (save religious organizations) who oppose Euthanasia. Clearly, 'liberals' are not this monolithic straw man you present them as for the sake of feeling smart.

Two thirds do. More than that once opposed abortion
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Postby Mujahidah » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:44 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Many doctors are liberals. Doctors are the loudest group of people (save religious organizations) who oppose Euthanasia. Clearly, 'liberals' are not this monolithic straw man you present them as for the sake of feeling smart.

Two thirds do. More than that once opposed abortion


Ok? So you're admitting your rambling? I don't get it. Nothing in this thread makes sense.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:45 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Two thirds do. More than that once opposed abortion


Ok? So you're admitting your rambling? I don't get it. Nothing in this thread makes sense.

That is the point.
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Postby Mujahidah » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:45 pm

Benuty wrote:
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Ok? So you're admitting your rambling? I don't get it. Nothing in this thread makes sense.

That is the point.


How is that a point....
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:47 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Benuty wrote:That is the point.


How is that a point....

This thread isn't supposed to make sense at all it is nothing, but a big old bag a chum, and like sharks, we fell for the bait.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:49 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:But it isn't?

No human being in the history of the world has died beacuse they got denied a sex change operation.

In fact suicide among transfolk is a problem. SRS is believed to help

Ok, but that can helped with friends and suicide hotlines too.

And even then, that's a minor fraction of pop. The majorty of people don't need a sexchange.

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Postby Xmara » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:49 pm

This looks like something I’d see one of my conspiracy theorist Facebook friends post
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:49 pm

Xmara wrote:This looks like something I’d see one of my conspiracy theorist Facebook friends post

Not if you take a closer look at the context it wouldn't.
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Postby Albrenia » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:50 pm

Xmara wrote:This looks like something I’d see one of my conspiracy theorist Facebook friends post


That's what They want you to think.

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