Trump MAGAThread XII: A Tarriff-ic Thread!

[The Knockout Gun Gals]

CM might be on a last name basis with the guy...


That's was funnier in my head.

Any-way...it will be Kim that gets the blame because I don't think anyone think's he's sincere except maybe the president. The splashback on Trump will just be him believing he had a shot, and even then he can brush that off by saying he tried. This is where lowered expectations are really going to work in his favor. If you already hate the dude you've already spent your points mocking him for this. If you like him you've already made your excuses. If you don't have an opinion on him...who the fuck are you and how...how did you manage to get that way?

Yeaah, that was pretty terrible.

I think both will get the blame, but most will blame Trump because... well do I need to say anything really?

I do admit, I wouldn't be too surprised if a deal doesn't work, it's really hard to convince the hermit kingdom to give up their nukes, especially when we continue doing joint military operations which they conceive as "an exercise for invasion" and would rather we leave the region altogether and we say "no."

You'd think it'd be quite simple, they give up nukes, we lift sanctions and we promise not to overthrow the Kim regime and peace in Korea might be restored, but I don't think it's that easy. And if it does turn out to be that easy... well fuck me and call me Shirley. (Not literally, obviously, but you get it)

NK is not going to scrap their nuclear.

[Saiwania]

A huge congratulations to Trump is in order. He's being honored on an Israeli coin as a modern day King Cyrus, the figure from the Bible who allegedly allowed the Jews back into Jerusalem from where they were exiled to by Babylon 2500+ years ago.

[Wallenburg]

Of course, when Congress tries and this ruling is brought up as to why they can't do that...

The ruling more or less boils down to "things as written must be enforced". There's nothing to stop Congress from changing how laws on this topic work in the future if, say, the Dems ever get a trifecta in the future.

> implies the Democrats aren't bought out by corporations

[The Black Forrest]

A huge congratulations to Trump is in order. He's being honored on an Israeli coin as a modern day King Cyrus, the figure from the Bible who allegedly allowed the Jews back into Jerusalem from where they were exiled to by Babylon 2500+ years ago.

I thought you were joking about the coin.

Let them back in? I wonder what all those Jews were doing there when I was there?.......

[The Parkus Empire]

A huge congratulations to Trump is in order. He's being honored on an Israeli coin as a modern day King Cyrus, the figure from the Bible who allegedly allowed the Jews back into Jerusalem from where they were exiled to by Babylon 2500+ years ago.

Hahaha. Shit. Israel, I have said some hostile things, but you are the meme masters. I salute your memery

[Farnhamia]

A huge congratulations to Trump is in order. He's being honored on an Israeli coin as a modern day King Cyrus, the figure from the Bible who allegedly allowed the Jews back into Jerusalem from where they were exiled to by Babylon 2500+ years ago.

I thought you were joking about the coin.

Let them back in? I wonder what all those Jews were doing there when I was there?.......

Well, probably not much, the city had been destroyed by the Babylonians. And not everyone in Judaea was deported, either. The longest anyone would have been gone was around 60 or 70 years.

[NeoOasis]

> implies the Democrats aren't bought out by corporations

Remember, the opposing party is by default pure in nature and intent. At least until the come into power.

[Oil exporting People]

I just think it's odd that an American president is tweeting about Chinese jobs being lost. Also, I read that a Chinese firm gave money to the Trump Co. during that which may or may not have influenced Trump's attitude.

Deal was in Indonesia and made prior to him even getting elected; the Indonesian intermediary also came out and said they hadn't even agreed to the deal yet, it was just getting reported as such.

[Oil exporting People]

The United States has had a very high percentage of Germans within its borders almost since its inception, and even before. You don't recognize it as much since they were integrated after WW1, destroying the last few enclaves that still spoke it frequently.

The point is that the WASP identity was never really a thing, cohesively, at least.

Any review of statistics and American history would reveal it very much was a thing and remnants of it lasted well into the 20th Century. It would also come as a surprise to Germans that they aren't any White, Saxon and Protestants among them.

[The Parkus Empire]

From Federalist Paper No. 2

It has often given me pleasure to observe that independent America was not composed of detached and distant territories, but that one connected, fertile, widespreading country was the portion of our western sons of liberty. Providence has in a particular manner blessed it with a variety of soils and productions, and watered it with innumerable streams, for the delight and accommodation of its inhabitants. A succession of navigable waters forms a kind of chain round its borders, as if to bind it together; while the most noble rivers in the world, running at convenient distances, present them with highways for the easy communication of friendly aids, and the mutual transportation and exchange of their various commodities.

With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people--a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.

This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous, and alien sovereignties.

[Conserative Morality]

The United States has had a very high percentage of Germans within its borders almost since its inception, and even before. You don't recognize it as much since they were integrated after WW1, destroying the last few enclaves that still spoke it frequently.

The point is that the WASP identity was never really a thing, cohesively, at least.

Any review of statistics and American history would reveal it very much was a thing and remnants of it lasted well into the 20th Century. It would also come as a surprise to Germans that they aren't any White, Saxon and Protestants among them.

"The Saxon in Anglo-Saxon means modern Germans"

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[Conserative Morality]

With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people--a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.

John Jay was very good at ignoring what he did not want to see; no wonder you like him so much.

[The Parkus Empire]

John Jay was very good at ignoring what he did not want to see; no wonder you like him so much.

He saw a lot more than many

[Oil exporting People]

Any review of statistics and American history would reveal it very much was a thing and remnants of it lasted well into the 20th Century. It would also come as a surprise to Germans that they aren't any White, Saxon and Protestants among them.

"The Saxon in Anglo-Saxon means modern Germans"

...

You'll notice I didn't say Anglo anywhere in there, but even then it's important to note the Angles were indeed a Germanic tribe. A review of contemporary reading even just about 100 years ago would reveal the general belief in a Saxon brotherhood between America, Britain and Germany.

[Conserative Morality]

You'll notice I didn't say Anglo anywhere in there,

Yes, I forgot we were talking about WSPs.

but even then it's important to note the Angles were indeed a Germanic tribe. A review of contemporary reading even just about 100 years ago would reveal the general belief in a Saxon brotherhood between America, Britain and Germany.

And a review of cultural attitudes 200 and 300 years before would reveal no such belief.

[Oil exporting People]

Yes, I forgot we were talking about WSPs.

I've told you before you need to read my posts before responding, you could avoid embarrassing incidents like this.

And a review of cultural attitudes 200 and 300 years before would reveal no such belief.

And America didn't even exist then, so utterly irrelevant to the point being made.

[Conserative Morality]

Yes, I forgot we were talking about WSPs.

I've told you before you need to read my posts before responding, you could avoid embarrassing incidents like this.

The point is that the WASP identity was never really a thing, cohesively, at least.

And a review of cultural attitudes 200 and 300 years before would reveal no such belief.

And America didn't even exist then, so utterly irrelevant to the point being made.

"America didn't exist 200 years ago."

:thonk:

[Oil exporting People]

I've told you before you need to read my posts before responding, you could avoid embarrassing incidents like this.



And America didn't even exist then, so utterly irrelevant to the point being made.

"America didn't exist 200 years ago."

:thonk:

You said 200 and 300.

[Wallenburg]

I've told you before you need to read my posts before responding, you could avoid embarrassing incidents like this.



And America didn't even exist then, so utterly irrelevant to the point being made.

"America didn't exist 200 years ago."

:thonk:

James Madison is not amused.

[Conserative Morality]

You said 200 and 300.

And 300 years ago the colonies certainly existed, so the cultural attitudes would have been very much relevant.

[Oil exporting People]

You said 200 and 300.

And 300 years ago the colonies certainly existed, so the cultural attitudes would have been very much relevant.

And said colonies were not the United States which was the question and to bring up the matter of their culture is also irrelevant given that 300 years ago they were firmly loyal to the Crown of England with all that implies; they viewed themselves as Englishman and subject of a lawful Monarch.

[The East Marches II]

Honest Americans who saw what a mistake Catholic immigration was

Excuse me?

Yes, am I supposed to welcome crowds of people who vote for how the man in the pointy hat tells them? Or will rapidly change position based on what he decides? It is a legitimate concern to have about a group which believes Americanism a sin.

[Conserative Morality]

And said colonies were not the United States which was the question and to bring up the matter of their culture is also irrelevant given that 300 years ago they were firmly loyal to the Crown of England with all that implies; they viewed themselves as Englishman and subject of a lawful Monarch.

"Culture is purely loyalty."

W O W

[Conserative Morality]

Excuse me?

Yes, am I supposed to welcome crowds of people who vote for how the man in the pointy hat tells them? Or will rapidly change position based on what he decides? It is a legitimate concern to have about a group which believes Americanism a sin.

tbh the distrust should be the other way around. The Pope can't rely on American Catholics; they're too busy calling for women priests and shit.

[The Parkus Empire]

Yes, am I supposed to welcome crowds of people who vote for how the man in the pointy hat tells them? Or will rapidly change position based on what he decides? It is a legitimate concern to have about a group which believes Americanism a sin.

tbh the distrust should be the other way around. The Pope can't rely on American Catholics; they're too busy calling for women priests and shit.

That's a church matter. TEM is talking state politics.