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Postby Geneviev » Tue May 22, 2018 2:34 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Nature's just having fun.

Trump will blame it on Obama and Hillary.

He couldn't. This is not something that humans can cause. If he does find a way to blame them, well, that would be impressive.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue May 22, 2018 2:37 pm

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No surprise Gauthier would mock somebody worried about workers

https://www.epi.org/publication/the-arb ... -epidemic/

Oh right, telling workers they're shit out of luck and can't join in a class action suit after going through arbitration that was likely forced and rigged is worrying about workers. Getting just recompense that is. =^]


A tragedy, too bad they are just asking for the Pinkertons again by resisting :^)

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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 22, 2018 2:41 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Nature's just having fun.

Trump will blame it on Obama and Hillary.


Clearly there's a bunker under the south lawn that all the Pizzagate kids got moved to.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 22, 2018 2:41 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:https://www.epi.org/publication/the-arb ... -epidemic/

Oh right, telling workers they're shit out of luck and can't join in a class action suit after going through arbitration that was likely forced and rigged is worrying about workers. Getting just recompense that is. =^]


A tragedy, too bad they are just asking for the Pinkertons again by resisting :^)

Just means the Wobblies are going to make a comeback. =^]
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue May 22, 2018 2:42 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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A tragedy, too bad they are just asking for the Pinkertons again by resisting :^)

Just means the Wobblies are going to make a comeback. =^]


That's what I've been saying. Alas, you are too much a defeatist to see the upside.

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Postby Geneviev » Tue May 22, 2018 2:44 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Trump will blame it on Obama and Hillary.


Clearly there's a bunker under the south lawn that all the Pizzagate kids got moved to.

I completely forgot about Pizzagate.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue May 22, 2018 2:44 pm

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Kvatchdom wrote:Still gangsters.

And what would you call a union? Particularly one involved in violent strike action? They were no different. One could even think of them as a proto-Union since many wished to protect their livelihoods from lower paid laborers.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 22, 2018 2:45 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Trump will blame it on Obama and Hillary.


Clearly there's a bunker under the south lawn that all the Pizzagate kids got moved to.

The sinkhole is just the children trying to dig their way to freedom.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Tue May 22, 2018 2:48 pm

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Vassenor wrote:Also SCOTUS just voted to strip away a lot of the rights workers have to sue their employers, but tell us more about how the government is putting working Americans first.


Seems like the right call from a quick reading. Ought to be interesting to see how they rule in the union case as well.

Gutting workers rights is hardly the right call.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 22, 2018 2:49 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Seems like the right call from a quick reading. Ought to be interesting to see how they rule in the union case as well.

Gutting workers rights is hardly the right call.


But corporations being able to make more money is always best for America. The wealth will trickle down any day now.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 22, 2018 2:50 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Gutting workers rights is hardly the right call.


But corporations being able to make more money is always best for America. The wealth will trickle down any day now.

If wealth is liquid, yellow and odorous.
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Postby Clintonburge » Tue May 22, 2018 4:25 pm

I'm been following Trump's roller coaster of tweets, and honestly, its been really comical.

First he was pro Chinese firm ZTE, and apparently cared about Chinese jobs being lost than those at home, and wanted to help the company. Now, he's back peddled, I'm guessing after bipartisan push back, he's no longer pro ZTE.

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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue May 22, 2018 4:27 pm

Clintonburge wrote:I'm been following Trump's roller coaster of tweets, and honestly, its been really comical.

First he was pro Chinese firm ZTE, and apparently cared about Chinese jobs being lost than those at home, and wanted to help the company. Now, he's back peddled, I'm guessing after bipartisan push back, he's no longer pro ZTE.


Reports were he extended it as an olive branch in exchange for concessions from them on tariffs on Agricultural and the Chinese were willing to play ball because ZTE is important to them; both sides wanted to keep this respective chip safe and fight on other battlegrounds. Not that odd, just the average push and pull.
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Postby Maineiacs » Tue May 22, 2018 4:29 pm

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Kvatchdom wrote:Still gangsters.


Honest Americans who saw what a mistake Catholic immigration was



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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue May 22, 2018 4:30 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Honest Americans who saw what a mistake Catholic immigration was



Excuse me? :eyebrow:


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Postby Clintonburge » Tue May 22, 2018 4:32 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Clintonburge wrote:I'm been following Trump's roller coaster of tweets, and honestly, its been really comical.

First he was pro Chinese firm ZTE, and apparently cared about Chinese jobs being lost than those at home, and wanted to help the company. Now, he's back peddled, I'm guessing after bipartisan push back, he's no longer pro ZTE.


Reports were he extended it as an olive branch in exchange for concessions from them on tariffs on Agricultural and the Chinese were willing to play ball because ZTE is important to them; both sides wanted to keep this respective chip safe and fight on other battlegrounds. Not that odd, just the average push and pull.


I just think it's odd that an American president is tweeting about Chinese jobs being lost. Also, I read that a Chinese firm gave money to the Trump Co. during that which may or may not have influenced Trump's attitude.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue May 22, 2018 4:36 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:Anyone who thinks Trump appointing Gorsuch is caring for America is full of themselves.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/201 ... lewis.html

Oh, wow, he repealed an old piece of legislation from the FDR administration, that's so awful.

That would actually be even worse than what he did. The Supreme Court does not have the power to repeal acts of Congress.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 22, 2018 4:44 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also SCOTUS just voted to strip away a lot of the rights workers have to sue their employers, but tell us more about how the government is putting working Americans first.

Workers have fought back against the waivers, arguing that the cost of pursuing their cases individually in arbitration is prohibitively expensive. The ruling does not affect workers represented by unions.


Did they just accidentally endorse unionization?


Sure. Just pulled the teeth. Class Actions have bigger penalties then binding arbitration.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 22, 2018 4:48 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:

Did they just accidentally endorse unionization?


Sure. Just pulled the teeth. Class Actions have bigger penalties then binding arbitration.

And just about every arbitration is fixed in favor of companies and corporations.

https://www.epi.org/publication/the-arb ... -epidemic/
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue May 22, 2018 4:48 pm

Vassenor wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Gutting workers rights is hardly the right call.


But corporations being able to make more money is always best for America. The wealth will trickle down any day now.


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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 22, 2018 5:07 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Excuse me? :eyebrow:


The loss of our WASP identity is a tragedy.


The United States has had a very high percentage of Germans within its borders almost since its inception, and even before. You don't recognize it as much since they were integrated after WW1, destroying the last few enclaves that still spoke it frequently.

The point is that the WASP identity was never really a thing, cohesively, at least.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 22, 2018 5:17 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Seems like the right call from a quick reading. Ought to be interesting to see how they rule in the union case as well.

Gutting workers rights is hardly the right call.


Sure, and Congress should do something about that. But it isn't the Courts job in this case.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 22, 2018 5:19 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Gutting workers rights is hardly the right call.


Sure, and Congress should do something about that. But it isn't the Courts job in this case.


Of course, when Congress tries and this ruling is brought up as to why they can't do that...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 22, 2018 5:21 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Sure, and Congress should do something about that. But it isn't the Courts job in this case.


Of course, when Congress tries and this ruling is brought up as to why they can't do that...


The ruling more or less boils down to "things as written must be enforced". There's nothing to stop Congress from changing how laws on this topic work in the future if, say, the Dems ever get a trifecta in the future.
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Postby Liriena » Tue May 22, 2018 6:50 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:There's nothing to stop Congress from changing how laws on this topic work in the future

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