Trump MAGAThread XII: A Tarriff-ic Thread!

[Fartsniffage]

Ifreann is pro-abortion. Why do you insist people waste their time answering questions you clearly don’t want answers for? Do you really think all of your screams and shouts are anything new? Or anything eye-opening? Every time you’ve been given answers you scream and shout, “IT’S NOT FAIR,” like nobody in the world has ever said that before. Listen to other when they speak to you.

>"pro-abortion"

Iffy really hates kids. *nods*

[Cannot think of a name]

Unless you're going to phrase it in such a manner as to say "All people who support trump rape skunks" or "This specific poster is a skunk rapist ergo Trump is untrustworthy" I'm not sure how that would go.

Or how any of this leads to Trump getting the benefit of the doubt. I'm honestly pretty confused at this point.

To make it simple, I have a very deep abiding hatred for the man and almost everything he stands for. I give him the benefit of the doubt more to maintain civility of discourse than anything else. I am worried that if prompted to cut loose so to speak honestly, I would very likely say something I regret. As a result, to remain civil in the face of someone acting with apologism for what I consider to be one of the most bald-faced examples of the despicable behavior that 45 participates in, I am actively trying to be diplomatic and see things from the other person's perspective, ergo giving Donald Trump undeserved benefit of the doubt.

I don't know, man. I don't think you're doing yourself any favors. There's a wide, wide gulf between trying to be civil and just outright surrendering your logic. You don't have to give him the benefit of the doubt to tone yourself down, you just have to tone yourself down. You know he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, don't force yourself to give him that. That's gotta be a bitter pill to swallow for no reason.

[Telconi]

And I can even tell you governors in Louisiana at least have been doing it since God knows when.

Everyone doing it doesn't make it not a bad thing.

No but when a particular negative trait is universal across the board, it doesn't become a useful measure.

[Ifreann]

>"pro-abortion"

Iffy really hates kids. *nods*

I'm hoping if we vote Yes really hard abortion will become mandatory.

[Cannot think of a name]

Okay, I don't actually know anything about this gang or really the whole 'animals' thing. I'll be honest, I'm bringing this up because of this: You know gangs don't have marketing departments, otherwise they wouldn't have ended up with names that sound like Ms. Hodges home room.

Doubling down on Trump's recent controversial remarks about some migrants being "animals" -- which he later said were directed against MS-13 -- the White House sent a statement detailing atrocities committed by the group.

"WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE VIOLENT ANIMALS OF MS-13," said an email, which used the term "animals" 11 times.

Back at my first run at college there was a really interesting instillation of World War II propaganda that highlighted the different ways we portrayed and vilified the enemy, the Germans were a dark looming evil while the Japanese were snakes or various other animals, not human. Felt worth noting.

Doubling down on Trump's recent controversial remarks about some migrants being "animals" -- which he later said were directed against MS-13 -- the White House sent a statement detailing atrocities committed by the group.

"WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE VIOLENT ANIMALS OF MS-13," said an email, which used the term "animals" 11 times.
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According to an estimate from The Washington Office on Latin America, which campaigns on human rights in the Americas, MS-13 accounts for less than one percent of America's 1.4 million gang members.

[Hittanryan]

OK, can somebody give me a reason why Hillary Clinton could be worse than Trump? Trump-supporters are insisting that Hillary could a start a war or something

She pushed for actions that would've pissed Russia off, to the point of possible war. There's also the general fact that she isn't interested in the people at all, and is corrupt as hell. Trump cares about the nation at least, he just isn't built to be a very good president.

Going to need to see some—make that ANY proof that Trump cares about the nation. I’ve never seen any evidence that he cares about anyone but himself.

[Post War America]

OK, can somebody give me a reason why Hillary Clinton could be worse than Trump? Trump-supporters are insisting that Hillary could a start a war or something

She pushed for actions that would've pissed Russia off, to the point of possible war. There's also the general fact that she isn't interested in the people at all, and is corrupt as hell. Trump cares about the nation at least, he just isn't built to be a very good president.

Yes, complaining about people who just had a hurricane destroy their island, and are justifiably upset at the piss poor government response.Being salty about his own bruised ego, when people criticized his response.Truly a man of the people.

[The Black Forrest]

OK, can somebody give me a reason why Hillary Clinton could be worse than Trump? Trump-supporters are insisting that Hillary could a start a war or something

She pushed for actions that would've pissed Russia off, to the point of possible war. There's also the general fact that she isn't interested in the people at all, and is corrupt as hell. Trump cares about the nation at least, he just isn't built to be a very good president.

What now?

You make the astronomical assumption the republicans would have let her do anything.

Are you suggestion donnie gives a rats ass about you or me? Talking is easy.

We can debate the corruption levels but I think donnie has her beat on that front.

Donnie cares about the nation? Ok again talk is easy. What has he done to show he really cares?

[Cannot think of a name]

We can debate the corruption levels but I think donnie has her beat on that front.

He passed that ages ago and is now going for the record.

[Luminesa]

Ifreann is pro-abortion. Why do you insist people waste their time answering questions you clearly don’t want answers for? Do you really think all of your screams and shouts are anything new? Or anything eye-opening? Every time you’ve been given answers you scream and shout, “IT’S NOT FAIR,” like nobody in the world has ever said that before. Listen to other when they speak to you.

>"pro-abortion"

Pro-choice, pro-abortion, take your pick. That wasn’t my point, and Ifreann can answer for himself if it bothers him that much. My point was that Flutters is asking for people for answers he knows they will give him, and yet he keeps asking because he apparently expects something different.

[Luminesa]

>"pro-abortion"

Iffy really hates kids. *nods*

I never implied such, don’t put words in my mouth.

[Senkaku]

Iffy really hates kids. *nods*

I never implied such, don’t put words in my mouth.

I mean, you didn't mean to imply such, anyways, but there is a rhetorical distinction between pro-choice and pro-abortion that means one should be thoughtful about using them

Then you support this then?

Ifreann is pro-abortion. Why do you insist people waste their time answering questions you clearly don’t want answers for? Do you really think all of your screams and shouts are anything new? Or anything eye-opening? Every time you’ve been given answers you scream and shout, “IT’S NOT FAIR,” like nobody in the world has ever said that before. Listen to other when they speak to you.

Some people just like being angry and outraged, tbh.

[Cekoviu]

>"pro-abortion"

Pro-choice, pro-abortion, take your pick.

There is a very big difference between those two, but you are right in that this is not the topic of the thread or the core of your point.

[Luminesa]

I never implied such, don’t put words in my mouth.

I mean, you didn't mean to imply such, anyways, but there is a rhetorical distinction between pro-choice and pro-abortion that means one should be thoughtful about using them

Ifreann is pro-abortion. Why do you insist people waste their time answering questions you clearly don’t want answers for? Do you really think all of your screams and shouts are anything new? Or anything eye-opening? Every time you’ve been given answers you scream and shout, “IT’S NOT FAIR,” like nobody in the world has ever said that before. Listen to other when they speak to you.

Some people just like being angry and outraged, tbh.

I suppose, though I wasn’t going for a rhetorical statement. Flutters was asking Ifreann, because he would not give an answer, if he supported Trump or Planned Parenthood. My point was that if Flutter paid attention to Ifreann’s posts, he would see yes, he supports PP most likely.

[Luminesa]

Pro-choice, pro-abortion, take your pick.

There is a very big difference between those two, but you are right in that this is not the topic of the thread or the core of your point.

Thank you.

[Telconi]

She pushed for actions that would've pissed Russia off, to the point of possible war. There's also the general fact that she isn't interested in the people at all, and is corrupt as hell. Trump cares about the nation at least, he just isn't built to be a very good president.

Going to need to see some—make that ANY proof that Trump cares about the nation. I’ve never seen any evidence that he cares about anyone but himself.

[The Black Forrest]

Going to need to see some—make that ANY proof that Trump cares about the nation. I’ve never seen any evidence that he cares about anyone but himself.

[Cekoviu]

Going to need to see some—make that ANY proof that Trump cares about the nation. I’ve never seen any evidence that he cares about anyone but himself.

"Where is proof that Trump cares about the nation?"
"Here, have a picture of something that proves the opposite."

[Tobleste]

That is a good example of hyperpartisanship. In his mind, appointing a conservative to the scotus is proof that trump cares about the country. He can't be corrupt or selfish because he's a republican. It doesn't make sense to anyone who seriously thinks about it but republicans don't do that so they never stop believing it.

[The Flutterlands]

Going to need to see some—make that ANY proof that Trump cares about the nation. I’ve never seen any evidence that he cares about anyone but himself.

Hiering a judge who thinks it's legal to let a worker freeze to death is caring for the country?

[Roskian Federation]

Highering a judge who thinks it's legal to let a worker freeze to death is caring for the country?

yes, because that person can't vote democratic anymore

duh

[New Emeline]

Highering a judge who thinks it's legal to let a worker freeze to death is caring for the country?

Wait, what?

[Vassenor]

Highering a judge who thinks it's legal to let a worker freeze to death is caring for the country?

Wait, what?

When Neil Gorsuch put corporate interests over a man freezing to death

[New Emeline]

Wait, what?

When Neil Gorsuch put corporate interests over a man freezing to death

Oh, yikes

[Vassenor]

Also SCOTUS just voted to strip away a lot of the rights workers have to sue their employers, but tell us more about how the government is putting working Americans first.