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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon May 21, 2018 11:02 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
In what way did the election demonstrate Clinton to be corrupt?

Something Something Cheated Bernie Something Something.

Single handedly invented super delegates, underhandedly worked within the party for decades building relationships and working with people towards common goals that built enough trust that they felt she should represent the party over someone who literally just joined it, which is of course the worst thing a human being could do are you crazy?

For the record, I wanted Bernie, I just wasn't a screaming idiot about it.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 11:03 am

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Mar-a-Lago


What strain are you smoking so I can get some?


It's owned by the Trump Orgsnization. Not him personally.

The guy who has refused to divest himself from his holdings. Not even the Matrix can achieve the physics-bending apologism here.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon May 21, 2018 11:04 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:You mean the C+ Rasmussen Reports poll yes? Oh wait, that was the only poll that put him over 50%. So only one poll then.


Meanwhile, Reuters A- has him at 44% 54%

39%- 53% for the B ranked You gov

Gallup (B-) has him 43% 52%

Saying "Highest sense March" doesn't mean anything sense he hasn't been in the positives sense Feb of last year.

"Senate Steamroll Soon."

Lol no


Highest since March 17.


Not much of an accomplishment.

Jimmy Carter did 9 points better then Trump on his 487th day.

Oh and that +50% got downgraded to a 47% 51% apparently.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 21, 2018 11:05 am

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Mar-a-Lago


What strain are you smoking so I can get some?


It's owned by the Trump Orgsnization. Not him personally.

An important and substantial difference.
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Postby Painisia » Mon May 21, 2018 11:05 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Highest since March 17.


Not much of an accomplishment.

Jimmy Carter did 9 points better then Trump on his 487th day.

Jimmy Carter, The most honest president. And I didn't live in the 70s
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon May 21, 2018 11:09 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:And to be clear, this too is part of what will be making 2018 a 'Greatest Hits' tour:

They're not bringing up Abramoff or Cunningham, the article just said corruption scandals like those two helped the Democrats snag the House in 2006. On the other hand we all know the GOP is going to run against Hillary yet again.

I put this in the wrong thread, proper response will be there to add to the overall confusion...

Well, if anyone gave a shit. Honestly if I hadn't said anything no one would have noticed...
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Postby Telconi » Mon May 21, 2018 11:10 am

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Telconi wrote:
It's owned by the Trump Orgsnization. Not him personally.


Do you seriously believe that he's going to not reclaim that organization the second he's out of the White House?


Of course he is.
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Postby Post War America » Mon May 21, 2018 11:15 am

Telconi wrote:
Post War America wrote:
Do you seriously believe that he's going to not reclaim that organization the second he's out of the White House?


Of course he is.


Ergo, he is lining his own pockets when he goes the Mar a Lago while president. He doesn't get the money immediately no, but he's going to get at the end of his presidency. It's, for a lack of a better term an investment in the future.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 11:17 am

Post War America wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Of course he is.


Ergo, he is lining his own pockets when he goes the Mar a Lago while president. He doesn't get the money immediately no, but he's going to get at the end of his presidency. It's, for a lack of a better term an investment in the future.

Donnie has not divested himself from Bribe-A-Largo so he's probably taking in the revenue immediately.
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Postby Post War America » Mon May 21, 2018 11:18 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Post War America wrote:
Ergo, he is lining his own pockets when he goes the Mar a Lago while president. He doesn't get the money immediately no, but he's going to get at the end of his presidency. It's, for a lack of a better term an investment in the future.

Donnie has not divested himself from Bribe-A-Largo so he's probably taking in the revenue immediately.


I'm giving the Donald the benefit of the doubt here.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon May 21, 2018 11:27 am

Post War America wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Donnie has not divested himself from Bribe-A-Largo so he's probably taking in the revenue immediately.


I'm giving the Donald the benefit of the doubt here.

In what universe has he earned that?
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Postby Post War America » Mon May 21, 2018 11:28 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I'm giving the Donald the benefit of the doubt here.

In what universe has he earned that?


The universe where I don't want to eat a banhammer for expressing my actual beliefs about him.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 11:28 am

Post War America wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:In what universe has he earned that?


The universe where I don't want to eat a banhammer for expressing my actual beliefs about him.

There are non bannable ways to say you don't believe him one bit.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
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Postby Post War America » Mon May 21, 2018 11:29 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Post War America wrote:
The universe where I don't want to eat a banhammer for expressing my actual beliefs about him.

There are non bannable ways to say you don't believe him one bit.


I'm sure there are, but the full extent of why I don't believe him are more problematic.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon May 21, 2018 11:36 am

Post War America wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:There are non bannable ways to say you don't believe him one bit.


I'm sure there are, but the full extent of why I don't believe him are more problematic.

Unless you're going to phrase it in such a manner as to say "All people who support trump rape skunks" or "This specific poster is a skunk rapist ergo Trump is untrustworthy" I'm not sure how that would go.

Or how any of this leads to Trump getting the benefit of the doubt. I'm honestly pretty confused at this point.
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Postby Post War America » Mon May 21, 2018 11:42 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I'm sure there are, but the full extent of why I don't believe him are more problematic.

Unless you're going to phrase it in such a manner as to say "All people who support trump rape skunks" or "This specific poster is a skunk rapist ergo Trump is untrustworthy" I'm not sure how that would go.

Or how any of this leads to Trump getting the benefit of the doubt. I'm honestly pretty confused at this point.


To make it simple, I have a very deep abiding hatred for the man and almost everything he stands for. I give him the benefit of the doubt more to maintain civility of discourse than anything else. I am worried that if prompted to cut loose so to speak honestly, I would very likely say something I regret. As a result, to remain civil in the face of someone acting with apologism for what I consider to be one of the most bald-faced examples of the despicable behavior that 45 participates in, I am actively trying to be diplomatic and see things from the other person's perspective, ergo giving Donald Trump undeserved benefit of the doubt.
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Postby Telconi » Mon May 21, 2018 11:45 am

Post War America wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Donnie has not divested himself from Bribe-A-Largo so he's probably taking in the revenue immediately.


I'm giving the Donald the benefit of the doubt here.


I'm not arguing it isn't scummy as all hell. But it isn't embezzlement.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 11:51 am

Telconi wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I'm giving the Donald the benefit of the doubt here.


I'm not arguing it isn't scummy as all hell. But it isn't embezzlement.

But it is using the office for personal profit.
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Postby Telconi » Mon May 21, 2018 11:51 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I'm not arguing it isn't scummy as all hell. But it isn't embezzlement.

But it is using the office for personal profit.


Every president does that ever.
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Postby Post War America » Mon May 21, 2018 11:52 am

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:But it is using the office for personal profit.


Every president does that ever.


Sauce please.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:Unless you're going to phrase it in such a manner as to say "All people who support trump rape skunks" or "This specific poster is a skunk rapist ergo Trump is untrustworthy" I'm not sure how that would go.

Or how any of this leads to Trump getting the benefit of the doubt. I'm honestly pretty confused at this point.


To make it simple, I have a very deep abiding hatred for the man and almost everything he stands for. I give him the benefit of the doubt more to maintain civility of discourse than anything else. I am worried that if prompted to cut loose so to speak honestly, I would very likely say something I regret. As a result, to remain civil in the face of someone acting with apologism for what I consider to be one of the most bald-faced examples of the despicable behavior that 45 participates in, I am actively trying to be diplomatic and see things from the other person's perspective, ergo giving Donald Trump undeserved benefit of the doubt.



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Postby Luminesa » Mon May 21, 2018 11:52 am

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Ifreann wrote:You've asked this kind of thing before. If you weren't listening then, what point is there in explaining it to you again?

Then you support this then?

Ifreann is pro-abortion. Why do you insist people waste their time answering questions you clearly don’t want answers for? Do you really think all of your screams and shouts are anything new? Or anything eye-opening? Every time you’ve been given answers you scream and shout, “IT’S NOT FAIR,” like nobody in the world has ever said that before. Listen to other when they speak to you.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon May 21, 2018 11:54 am

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:But it is using the office for personal profit.


Every president does that ever.

And I can even tell you governors in Louisiana at least have been doing it since God knows when.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon May 21, 2018 11:55 am

Luminesa wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Every president does that ever.

And I can even tell you governors in Louisiana at least have been doing it since God knows when.


Everyone doing it doesn't make it not a bad thing.

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 21, 2018 11:55 am

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The Flutterlands wrote:Then you support this then?

Ifreann is pro-abortion. Why do you insist people waste their time answering questions you clearly don’t want answers for? Do you really think all of your screams and shouts are anything new? Or anything eye-opening? Every time you’ve been given answers you scream and shout, “IT’S NOT FAIR,” like nobody in the world has ever said that before. Listen to other when they speak to you.

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