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Postby Telconi » Sat May 12, 2018 4:30 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:In that same article it says:

"The Department of Labor will propose relaxing current rules—known as Hazardous Occupations Orders — that bar 16- and 17-year-old apprentices and student learners from receiving extended, supervised training in certain dangerous jobs"

What it does not say is that they will allow 13-15 year old teens to work, and that 16 and 17 year old apprentices and learners will receive extended training that will be supervised by a trained professional in certain dangerous jobs like working on a roof with a chainsaw.

I took a wood shop class when I was a freshman, I wasn't even 16, and I made a hand-made wood clock and it was nice.

So, what's the problem again?


Does the US consider being a carpenter a dangerous occupation?


Yes, previously you wouldn't have been allowed to do it as a minor.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat May 12, 2018 4:33 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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Does the US consider being a carpenter a dangerous occupation?


I believe so just because of the tools and stuff.


Well that's just silly. At 11 the only wood working tool we weren't allowed to use in DT was the band saw. Everything else was cool.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 12, 2018 4:35 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Does the US consider being a carpenter a dangerous occupation?


I believe so just because of the tools and stuff.


Scroll saws, varnish, staining, sanders, hearing loss from the dust collector, jointers...

Jointer's are very dangerous, especially if the wood you are working on gets stuck.

I heard one girl at my high school got her finger ripped off when her board got stuck.

Oh and nail guns.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat May 12, 2018 4:50 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/trump-administration-wants-to-roll-back-child-labor-laws/

Why don't they just roll back the 13th Amendment while they are at it?


Also shitty clickbait title is clickbait, they want to allow apprentices and student learners to get more hands on training experience with things.


How is it clickbait?

The problem is the amount of journeymen hired for such situations. When my father-in-law started apprenticing (electrician) there was 4 apprentices per journeyman on a site. Now it's more like 16(if I remember what he said right).
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 12, 2018 4:54 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Also shitty clickbait title is clickbait, they want to allow apprentices and student learners to get more hands on training experience with things.


How is it clickbait?


"Trump wants to roll back child labor laws"

C'mon, it's not hard to tell by Flutters reaction that he didn't even read beyond the headline and that's quite clearly what they were counting on.
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Postby Telconi » Sat May 12, 2018 6:06 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I believe so just because of the tools and stuff.


Scroll saws, varnish, staining, sanders, hearing loss from the dust collector, jointers...

Jointer's are very dangerous, especially if the wood you are working on gets stuck.

I heard one girl at my high school got her finger ripped off when her board got stuck.

Sixteen year olds operate plenty of more dangerous stuff.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 12, 2018 7:43 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I believe so just because of the tools and stuff.


Well that's just silly. At 11 the only wood working tool we weren't allowed to use in DT was the band saw. Everything else was cool.

America: You can have a gun, but not a saw.
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Postby Galloism » Sat May 12, 2018 7:44 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Well that's just silly. At 11 the only wood working tool we weren't allowed to use in DT was the band saw. Everything else was cool.

America: You can have a gun, but not a saw.

You can't be employed in a profession carrying a gun until you're 18 either.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat May 12, 2018 7:50 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ifreann wrote:America: You can have a gun, but not a saw.

You can't be employed in a profession carrying a gun until you're 18 either.

Not yet, wait till Trump gets the swamp drained.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat May 12, 2018 8:38 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Scroll saws, varnish, staining, sanders, hearing loss from the dust collector, jointers...

Jointer's are very dangerous, especially if the wood you are working on gets stuck.

I heard one girl at my high school got her finger ripped off when her board got stuck.



Sixteen year olds operate plenty of more dangerous stuff.


I didn't say they did. Heck I like what Trump did in this case.

Just saying that woodworking is dangerous.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat May 12, 2018 9:01 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:

Sixteen year olds operate plenty of more dangerous stuff.


I didn't say they did. Heck I like what Trump did in this case.

Just saying that woodworking is dangerous.

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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 12, 2018 9:04 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/trump-administration-wants-to-roll-back-child-labor-laws/

Why don't they just roll back the 13th Amendment while they are at it?

Yes, less child labour laws. I'm sure I'll get a job now. Yay...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 12, 2018 9:07 pm

Geneviev wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/trump-administration-wants-to-roll-back-child-labor-laws/

Why don't they just roll back the 13th Amendment while they are at it?

Yes, less child labour laws. I'm sure I'll get a job now. Yay...


Please read the article before commenting on it. People just reading click bait headlines is something we really need to try and stop.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 12, 2018 9:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Yes, less child labour laws. I'm sure I'll get a job now. Yay...


Please read the article before commenting on it. People just reading click bait headlines is something we really need to try and stop.

After reading this: There is no hope for humanity.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 12, 2018 9:11 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Please read the article before commenting on it. People just reading click bait headlines is something we really need to try and stop.

After reading this: There is no hope for humanity.


Tell me about. Click bait is gonna end the world one of these days.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat May 12, 2018 9:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Geneviev wrote:After reading this: There is no hope for humanity.


Tell me about. Click bait is gonna end the world one of these days.

Click bait is a problem. It also gets people to click on my stuff though.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sun May 13, 2018 1:55 am

The Flutterlands wrote:https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/trump-administration-wants-to-roll-back-child-labor-laws/

Why don't they just roll back the 13th Amendment while they are at it?


That removes the last obstacle to making barron Trump head of the FBI.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun May 13, 2018 2:27 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Also shitty clickbait title is clickbait, they want to allow apprentices and student learners to get more hands on training experience with things.

"With things"

You mean working long hours with dangerous equipment that can result in permanent injuries at an age where they're considered too stupid to be able to smoke or drink.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 13, 2018 2:29 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Also shitty clickbait title is clickbait, they want to allow apprentices and student learners to get more hands on training experience with things.

"With things"

You mean working long hours with dangerous equipment that can result in permanent injuries at an age where they're considered too stupid to be able to smoke or drink.


Under supervision as part of training. You'll have to forgive me for not being outraged that Trump has the gall to want to do something.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun May 13, 2018 2:32 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Under supervision as part of training. You'll have to forgive me for not being outraged that Trump has the gall to want to do something.

As someone who has seen what 'under supervision' generally means in these jobs, you'll have to forgive me for not being enthralled with the prospect of glancing over every once in a while to make sure no one has bled to death. t. live in a blue collar area with an emphasis on technical training
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Postby Painisia » Sun May 13, 2018 4:48 am

Thousands of teachers in the US are protesting and striking for higher wages. Will Trump listen to them? Nah, he will instead tweet about how the "leftist" teachers are indoctrinating children to become communists. Ben Shapiro will probably join in
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun May 13, 2018 5:15 am

Painisia wrote:Thousands of teachers in the US are protesting and striking for higher wages. Will Trump listen to them? Nah, he will instead tweet about how the "leftist" teachers are indoctrinating children to become communists. Ben Shapiro will probably join in

Mostly red states right?
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Postby Painisia » Sun May 13, 2018 5:25 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Painisia wrote:Thousands of teachers in the US are protesting and striking for higher wages. Will Trump listen to them? Nah, he will instead tweet about how the "leftist" teachers are indoctrinating children to become communists. Ben Shapiro will probably join in

Mostly red states right?

I think so
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 13, 2018 5:27 am

Painisia wrote:Thousands of teachers in the US are protesting and striking for higher wages. Will Trump listen to them? Nah, he will instead tweet about how the "leftist" teachers are indoctrinating children to become communists. Ben Shapiro will probably join in


>mfw we actually have a communist teacher on here

This is a weird timeline
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Postby Tobleste » Sun May 13, 2018 6:58 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Painisia wrote:Thousands of teachers in the US are protesting and striking for higher wages. Will Trump listen to them? Nah, he will instead tweet about how the "leftist" teachers are indoctrinating children to become communists. Ben Shapiro will probably join in

Mostly red states right?


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