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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon May 28, 2018 4:37 pm

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Communist Xomaniax wrote:That's a weak fucking copout and you know it


No it isn't. Not in the fucking slightest. The specific claim made is that there was an offence committed that the FBI should have investigated. That claim was a lie, and my post gives precisely the reason that it's a lie. It's exactly the opposite of a cop-out: it's a direct refutation of the central point.

Also, the whole idea of having a primary is silly and only serves to preserve the shitshow that is two-party politics: the parties should just choose their damned candidates and get on with the real elections.


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Makes me wonder how many times the GOP threw a fit every time Clinton spoke on Memorial Day.
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Postby Tobleste » Mon May 28, 2018 4:51 pm

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I'm hoping I misunderstood you here. Are you suggesting we credit Trump as having done something good if he tweets something that was absolutely awful but there was potentially something even worse that he could have tweeted, but didn't?


That's basically where we are.


By 2020, trump is going to be in a debate with the dem nominee (I'm assuming he hasn't criminalized the dems at this point), walk up to the microphone, drool all over it and intermittently bark, and his supporters will applaud like he's MLK.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon May 28, 2018 4:53 pm

Tobleste wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
That's basically where we are.


By 2020, trump is going to be in a debate with the dem nominee (I'm assuming he hasn't criminalized the dems at this point), walk up to the microphone, drool all over it and intermittently bark, and his supporters will applaud like he's MLK.

Firstly, he won't drool. Secondly, he won't bark. Thirdly, if he were that unstable by then, he wouldn't have made it to the debate, let alone the microphone. Fourthly, his supporters aren't that stupid. Fifthly, that was an interesting thing to imagine.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon May 28, 2018 4:55 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
By 2020, trump is going to be in a debate with the dem nominee (I'm assuming he hasn't criminalized the dems at this point), walk up to the microphone, drool all over it and intermittently bark, and his supporters will applaud like he's MLK.

Firstly, he won't drool. Secondly, he won't bark. Thirdly, if he were that unstable by then, he wouldn't have made it to the debate, let alone the microphone. Fourthly, his supporters aren't that stupid. Fifthly, that was an interesting thing to imagine.


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Postby Geneviev » Mon May 28, 2018 4:56 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Firstly, he won't drool. Secondly, he won't bark. Thirdly, if he were that unstable by then, he wouldn't have made it to the debate, let alone the microphone. Fourthly, his supporters aren't that stupid. Fifthly, that was an interesting thing to imagine.


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Postby Bombadil » Mon May 28, 2018 4:57 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
By 2020, trump is going to be in a debate with the dem nominee (I'm assuming he hasn't criminalized the dems at this point), walk up to the microphone, drool all over it and intermittently bark, and his supporters will applaud like he's MLK.

Firstly, he won't drool. Secondly, he won't bark. Thirdly, if he were that unstable by then, he wouldn't have made it to the debate, let alone the microphone. Fourthly, his supporters aren't that stupid. Fifthly, that was an interesting thing to imagine.


I'm not sure I'd be surprised if Trump just pulled out a gun and shot the nominee for interrupting one of his incoherent rambles.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 28, 2018 4:58 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
By 2020, trump is going to be in a debate with the dem nominee (I'm assuming he hasn't criminalized the dems at this point), walk up to the microphone, drool all over it and intermittently bark, and his supporters will applaud like he's MLK.

Firstly, he won't drool. Secondly, he won't bark. Thirdly, if he were that unstable by then, he wouldn't have made it to the debate, let alone the microphone. Fourthly, his supporters aren't that stupid. Fifthly, that was an interesting thing to imagine.

This is the same Donald Trump who was caught making sexist remarks on tape that would have shot down a Republican's candidacy, much less a Democrat's and the Republican base dismissed it as locker room talk. He could be dripping towards the microphone and his base would try to rationalize every single thing he does.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon May 28, 2018 4:58 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Firstly, he won't drool. Secondly, he won't bark. Thirdly, if he were that unstable by then, he wouldn't have made it to the debate, let alone the microphone. Fourthly, his supporters aren't that stupid. Fifthly, that was an interesting thing to imagine.


I'm not sure I'd be surprised if Trump just pulled out a gun and shot the nominee for interrupting one of his incoherent rambles.

Actually, that would be Dana Loesch who would do that.
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Postby Tobleste » Mon May 28, 2018 5:02 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
By 2020, trump is going to be in a debate with the dem nominee (I'm assuming he hasn't criminalized the dems at this point), walk up to the microphone, drool all over it and intermittently bark, and his supporters will applaud like he's MLK.

Firstly, he won't drool. Secondly, he won't bark. Thirdly, if he were that unstable by then, he wouldn't have made it to the debate, let alone the microphone. Fourthly, his supporters aren't that stupid. Fifthly, that was an interesting thing to imagine.


I'll grant you the first two; I was being hyperbolic. But as for the third, who'd tell him no? The problem is your fourth point, his supporters are that stupid. That's the fundamental problem with trump: he's been given power by a mix of complete idiots and bigots.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon May 28, 2018 5:05 pm

Tobleste wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Firstly, he won't drool. Secondly, he won't bark. Thirdly, if he were that unstable by then, he wouldn't have made it to the debate, let alone the microphone. Fourthly, his supporters aren't that stupid. Fifthly, that was an interesting thing to imagine.


I'll grant you the first two; I was being hyperbolic. But as for the third, who'd tell him no? The problem is your fourth point, his supporters are that stupid. That's the fundamental problem with trump: he's been given power by a mix of complete idiots and bigots.

Probably his nurses would.

No, not at all. I don't consider myself a year ago stupid. Most people who support President Trump are just the same as people who don't.
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Postby Valrifell » Mon May 28, 2018 5:17 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Tobleste wrote:
I'll grant you the first two; I was being hyperbolic. But as for the third, who'd tell him no? The problem is your fourth point, his supporters are that stupid. That's the fundamental problem with trump: he's been given power by a mix of complete idiots and bigots.

Probably his nurses would.

No, not at all. I don't consider myself a year ago stupid. Most people who support President Trump are just the same as people who don't.


They just see the world in a fundamentally different way than those that didn't. Such is the psychology of partisanship and tribal attitudes.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon May 28, 2018 5:23 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Probably his nurses would.

No, not at all. I don't consider myself a year ago stupid. Most people who support President Trump are just the same as people who don't.


They just see the world in a fundamentally different way than those that didn't. Such is the psychology of partisanship and tribal attitudes.

Not at all.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Mon May 28, 2018 5:28 pm

So, I assume it’s just me, but I’m actually fckin sick of people being like “trump is bigot and evil” because, to me, I think that his corruption and greed is much more damning than him being mean and offensive.
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Postby Tobleste » Mon May 28, 2018 5:29 pm

Geneviev wrote:
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I'll grant you the first two; I was being hyperbolic. But as for the third, who'd tell him no? The problem is your fourth point, his supporters are that stupid. That's the fundamental problem with trump: he's been given power by a mix of complete idiots and bigots.

Probably his nurses would.

No, not at all. I don't consider myself a year ago stupid. Most people who support President Trump are just the same as people who don't.


We'll agree to disagree. Anyone who supports that man as president is either incredibly uninformed, unintelligent or immoral. No one can support someone like that without having a fundamentally different sense of right and wrong to what is considered normal in a developed society. That will probably be seen as bigoted by trump supporters but that doesn't make it untrue and I'm happy to be intolerant of intolerance.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 28, 2018 5:30 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:So, I assume it’s just me, but I’m actually fckin sick of people being like “trump is bigot and evil” because, to me, I think that his corruption and greed is much more damning than him being mean and offensive.

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Postby Tobleste » Mon May 28, 2018 5:31 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:So, I assume it’s just me, but I’m actually fckin sick of people being like “trump is bigot and evil” because, to me, I think that his corruption and greed is much more damning than him being mean and offensive.


True but the first two make him a worse person. Also he makes some small effort to hide the second two. When it comes to his bigotry, he's loud and proud.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon May 28, 2018 5:31 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
They just see the world in a fundamentally different way than those that didn't. Such is the psychology of partisanship and tribal attitudes.

Not at all.


That's unlike what media propagates. You see these types of people on any type of political or social spectrum which technically be considered the extreme vocal minority making their efforts known. The media rapidly conflates this and because of this they are mistaken to be the actual voice of their supposed "side".
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Postby Valrifell » Mon May 28, 2018 5:37 pm

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Geneviev wrote:Not at all.


That's unlike what media propagates. You see these types of people on any type of political or social spectrum which technically be considered the extreme vocal minority making their efforts known. The media rapidly conflates this and because of this they are mistaken to be the actual voice of their supposed "side".


It's because loud people who stand for something with vigor and passion tend to get news coverage. Consequently, people on the fringes of politics tend to be more passionate about their beliefs.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon May 28, 2018 5:39 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Not at all.


That's unlike what media propagates. You see these types of people on any type of political or social spectrum which technically be considered the extreme vocal minority making their efforts known. The media rapidly conflates this and because of this they are mistaken to be the actual voice of their supposed "side".

In the end, most every news source is looking to get money. That means they have to be interesting. So they show the more insane people from each side.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon May 28, 2018 8:26 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:So, I assume it’s just me,

Nah, the internet is full of people who hipster up their opinions.
but I’m actually fckin sick of people being like “trump is bigot and evil” because, to me, I think that his corruption and greed is much more damning than him being mean and offensive.

I’m capable of disliking people for a number of reasons.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue May 29, 2018 1:29 am

Tobleste wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Probably his nurses would.

No, not at all. I don't consider myself a year ago stupid. Most people who support President Trump are just the same as people who don't.


We'll agree to disagree. Anyone who supports that man as president is either incredibly uninformed, unintelligent or immoral. No one can support someone like that without having a fundamentally different sense of right and wrong to what is considered normal in a developed society. That will probably be seen as bigoted by trump supporters but that doesn't make it untrue and I'm happy to be intolerant of intolerance.

You can say that about the entire Republican Party at least on a national level and in a number of states. No one can support a party like that without having a fundamentally different sense of right and wrong to what is considered normal in a developed society either. I myself am sick of the tolerating the intolerable as well.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:So, I assume it’s just me,

Nah, the internet is full of people who hipster up their opinions.
but I’m actually fckin sick of people being like “trump is bigot and evil” because, to me, I think that his corruption and greed is much more damning than him being mean and offensive.

I’m capable of disliking people for a number of reasons.


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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue May 29, 2018 5:09 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:So, I assume it’s just me,

Nah, the internet is full of people who hipster up their opinions.
but I’m actually fckin sick of people being like “trump is bigot and evil” because, to me, I think that his corruption and greed is much more damning than him being mean and offensive.

I’m capable of disliking people for a number of reasons.

1. No need to be an ass about it
2. So am I, but I think the latter is more important to me
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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue May 29, 2018 5:11 am

Tobleste wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:So, I assume it’s just me, but I’m actually fckin sick of people being like “trump is bigot and evil” because, to me, I think that his corruption and greed is much more damning than him being mean and offensive.


True but the first two make him a worse person. Also he makes some small effort to hide the second two. When it comes to his bigotry, he's loud and proud.

1. The latter two seem to me as more worse than the former to me
2. He openly said he was a greedy person. Pretty loud about that too.
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