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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 21, 2018 10:23 am

Tobleste wrote:
Painisia wrote:OK, can somebody give me a reason why Hillary Clinton could be worse than Trump? Trump-supporters are insisting that Hillary could a start a war or something


I'll try and see it from their pov.

1. She supports stricter gun laws.
2. She supports abortion rights.
3. She supports improved minority rights and doesn't support cultural reactionaries.
4. She is a woman.
5. She is not sufficiently Christian and doesn't favour Christianity in her decision making.
6. Clinton had been demonised in right wing media for 2 decades so most of them thought she was a mass murderer.

Also, she's seen as part of the "establishment," and populism doesn't like that.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 21, 2018 10:24 am

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Cekoviu wrote:I would be less worried about the literal end of humanity if the Republican Party wasn't chock full of climate change deniers.

Or liberation hard warhawks itching to invade Iran and North Korea, maybe even at the same time.

Although that's dangerous, it's not quite as big of a threat to humanity at large as climate change. A war with North Korea would mean deaths for American soldiers and North Koreans, but we'd probably take them out before they could do any damage with nukes. That's not to say a war with them would be good, of course.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 21, 2018 10:25 am

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Painisia wrote:OK, can somebody give me a reason why Hillary Clinton could be worse than Trump? Trump-supporters are insisting that Hillary could a start a war or something

She pushed for actions that would've pissed Russia off, to the point of possible war. There's also the general fact that she isn't interested in the people at all, and is corrupt as hell. Trump cares about the nation at least, he just isn't built to be a very good president.

>Donald Trump isn't corrupt
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 10:26 am

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Petrasylvania wrote:Or liberation hard warhawks itching to invade Iran and North Korea, maybe even at the same time.

Although that's dangerous, it's not quite as big of a threat to humanity at large as climate change. A war with North Korea would mean deaths for American soldiers and North Koreans, but we'd probably take them out before they could do any damage with nukes. That's not to say a war with them would be good, of course.

But not before Best Korea completely fucks up Seoul and possibly Japan as a final Fuck You. Seoul being fucked up might wreck the Asian and world economy, guaranteed if Japan is damaged as well.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 21, 2018 10:28 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Although that's dangerous, it's not quite as big of a threat to humanity at large as climate change. A war with North Korea would mean deaths for American soldiers and North Koreans, but we'd probably take them out before they could do any damage with nukes. That's not to say a war with them would be good, of course.

But not before Best Korea completely fucks up Seoul and possibly Japan as a final Fuck You. Seoul being fucked up might wreck the Asian and world economy, guaranteed if Japan is damaged as well.

Perhaps. It could go both ways. If Japan is attacked, though, at least in Tōkyō, Kyōto, or another heavily populated city, that would be horrible for the economy.
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Postby Firaxin » Mon May 21, 2018 10:46 am

Cekoviu wrote:
Firaxin wrote:She pushed for actions that would've pissed Russia off, to the point of possible war. There's also the general fact that she isn't interested in the people at all, and is corrupt as hell. Trump cares about the nation at least, he just isn't built to be a very good president.

>Donald Trump isn't corrupt

I've seen no evidence he is, or at least that he's on par with Clinton.

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Postby Post War America » Mon May 21, 2018 10:46 am

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Cekoviu wrote:>Donald Trump isn't corrupt

I've seen no evidence he is, or at least that he's on par with Clinton.


He literally funnels millions of taxpayer dollars into his own pockets every single time he goes to Mar a Lago.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon May 21, 2018 10:47 am

Firaxin wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:>Donald Trump isn't corrupt

I've seen no evidence he is, or at least that he's on par with Clinton.


>Clinton Is Corrupt

How are we defining that today?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 10:49 am

Post War America wrote:
Firaxin wrote:I've seen no evidence he is, or at least that he's on par with Clinton.


He literally funnels millions of taxpayer dollars into his own pockets every single time he goes to Mar a Lago.

And tried to charge the Secret Service for using a floor in Trump Towers before they said "Fuck It" and moved to a van outside.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
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Postby Painisia » Mon May 21, 2018 10:50 am

Because of the Hyper Partisanship we see today, I think the two-party system has deemed to be a disaster. The Democrats are divided (Blue Dogs and the California College Social Democrats), Republicans too(Trump-populism, Christian Right and libertarians). Ben Shapiro should actually run for the The Constitution Party and The Democratic Party should split into a centrist party and The Socialist Party
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Postby Firaxin » Mon May 21, 2018 10:53 am

Vassenor wrote:
Firaxin wrote:I've seen no evidence he is, or at least that he's on par with Clinton.


>Clinton Is Corrupt

How are we defining that today?

The election made it pretty clear for me.

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Postby Telconi » Mon May 21, 2018 10:54 am

Post War America wrote:
Firaxin wrote:I've seen no evidence he is, or at least that he's on par with Clinton.


He literally funnels millions of taxpayer dollars into his own pockets every single time he goes to Mar a Lago.


He doesn't own Mar a Lago.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 10:54 am

Vassenor wrote:
Firaxin wrote:I've seen no evidence he is, or at least that he's on par with Clinton.


>Clinton Is Corrupt

How are we defining that today?

Don't Think, Feeel.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 10:56 am

Telconi wrote:
Post War America wrote:
He literally funnels millions of taxpayer dollars into his own pockets every single time he goes to Mar a Lago.


He doesn't own Mar a Lago.

Mar-a-Lago

In 1985, Mar-a-Lago was purchased by Donald Trump.[6] His wife at the time, Ivana Trump, was charged with running the property.[7] Trump retained Mar-a-Lago through both of his divorces. His family maintains private quarters in a separate, closed-off area of the house and grounds.[8] Trump has frequently visited there since he was elected president,[9] referring to it as the Winter White House and his "Southern White House"

What strain are you smoking so I can get some?
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The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon May 21, 2018 10:56 am

Painisia wrote:Because of the Hyper Partisanship we see today, I think the two-party system has deemed to be a disaster. The Democrats are divided (Blue Dogs and the California College Social Democrats), Republicans too(Trump-populism, Christian Right and libertarians). Ben Shapiro should actually run for the The Constitution Party and The Democratic Party should split into a centrist party and The Socialist Party

Doesn't work with our first past the post system. Although I don't mind the idea of Ben Shapiro running for a party with no actual chance of winning anything. :^)
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon May 21, 2018 10:56 am

Painisia wrote:Because of the Hyper Partisanship we see today, I think the two-party system has deemed to be a disaster. The Democrats are divided (Blue Dogs and the California College Social Democrats), Republicans too(Trump-populism, Christian Right and libertarians). Ben Shapiro should actually run for the The Constitution Party and The Democratic Party should split into a centrist party and The Socialist Party


Yeah pretty much.

The EC is trash.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon May 21, 2018 10:57 am

Firaxin wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
>Clinton Is Corrupt

How are we defining that today?

The election made it pretty clear for me.


In what way did the election demonstrate Clinton to be corrupt?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 10:57 am

Vassenor wrote:
Firaxin wrote:The election made it pretty clear for me.


In what way did the election demonstrate Clinton to be corrupt?

Something Something Cheated Bernie Something Something.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Trumptonium1 » Mon May 21, 2018 10:59 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:Paul Ryan is gone, thankfully, and Trump now has his average approval rating at 42.4% - highest since March - and two polls put him above 50%. Although minus one week in March, he's now at his highest since his inauguration.

Senate Steamroll Soon.


American Research Group, also with a C+ rating said 37%-58%

Oh and they lean R too.


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Postby Telconi » Mon May 21, 2018 11:00 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
He doesn't own Mar a Lago.

Mar-a-Lago

In 1985, Mar-a-Lago was purchased by Donald Trump.[6] His wife at the time, Ivana Trump, was charged with running the property.[7] Trump retained Mar-a-Lago through both of his divorces. His family maintains private quarters in a separate, closed-off area of the house and grounds.[8] Trump has frequently visited there since he was elected president,[9] referring to it as the Winter White House and his "Southern White House"

What strain are you smoking so I can get some?


It's owned by the Trump Orgsnization. Not him personally.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Mon May 21, 2018 11:01 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:Paul Ryan is gone, thankfully, and Trump now has his average approval rating at 42.4% - highest since March - and two polls put him above 50%. Although minus one week in March, he's now at his highest since his inauguration.

Senate Steamroll Soon.

You mean the C+ Rasmussen Reports poll yes? Oh wait, that was the only poll that put him over 50%. So only one poll then.


Meanwhile, Reuters A- has him at 44% 54%

39%- 53% for the B ranked You gov

Gallup (B-) has him 43% 52%

Saying "Highest sense March" doesn't mean anything sense he hasn't been in the positives sense Feb of last year.

"Senate Steamroll Soon."

Lol no


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Trumptonium1 wrote:


Error 403.


Strange, works fine for me.

Here you go, it's the newest polling.

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Postby Post War America » Mon May 21, 2018 11:02 am

Telconi wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Mar-a-Lago


What strain are you smoking so I can get some?


It's owned by the Trump Orgsnization. Not him personally.


Do you seriously believe that he's going to not reclaim that organization the second he's out of the White House?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon May 21, 2018 11:02 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:And to be clear, this too is part of what will be making 2018 a 'Greatest Hits' tour:
The new Democratic focus on corruption as a campaign message marks a return to a formula that helped put Democrats into the House majority in the 2006 midterm elections — after numerous scandals including the Jack Abramoff and Duke Cunningham revelations put pay-to-play politics on the public’s political radar in a big way. Polling done after the election showed that the tide of corruption helped swing votes to Democrats, and the party’s official now sees signs of similar concerns among voters.

Democrats, the official said, will make the case that they are best equipped to rein in what they are calling “the most corrupt administration in modern times” and are prepared to connect the corruption allegations to a Republican governing agenda that has delivered outsize tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans and dismantled financial and environmental regulations that aimed to protect average taxpayers.


They're not bringing up Abramoff or Cunningham, the article just said corruption scandals like those two helped the Democrats snag the House in 2006. On the other hand we all know the GOP is going to run against Hillary yet again.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
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If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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