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Jerzylvania
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 9:19 am

San Lumen wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Asinine, impulsive and stupid move that was only made to throw red meat at the base.

His base wont care that our credibility worldwide is now destroyed

We now have given Iran carte blanch to violate the treaty.

John Bolton murmurs in the background... "pick up the gun."
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 09, 2018 9:23 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:His base wont care that our credibility worldwide is now destroyed

We now have given Iran carte blanch to violate the treaty.

John Bolton murmurs in the background... "pick up the gun."

I just hope congress isn't dumb enough to start a war with Iran but at this point I think they will do anything to save their majority even if that means destroying the world

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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 09, 2018 9:26 am

San Lumen wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Asinine, impulsive and stupid move that was only made to throw red meat at the base.

His base wont care that our credibility worldwide is now destroyed

There's been nothing left to destroy for a year and a half.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed May 09, 2018 9:27 am

West Leas Oros wrote:So, what are your opinion on the Iran nuclear deal

Was good deal. Trump did a dumb.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 09, 2018 9:29 am

Cekoviu wrote:
San Lumen wrote:His base wont care that our credibility worldwide is now destroyed

There's been nothing left to destroy for a year and a half.

The rest of the world should punish us by violating treaties with us and call in our debts to them and stop loaning us money.

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Postby Pilarcraft » Wed May 09, 2018 9:30 am

San Lumen wrote:

The rest of the world should punish us by violating treaties with us and call in our debts to them and stop loaning us money.
But they won't, because half of them need America to defend them, and the other half would rather hold the debt above the US's head.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 09, 2018 9:32 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The rest of the world should punish us by violating treaties with us and call in our debts to them and stop loaning us money.
But they won't, because half of them need America to defend them, and the other half would rather hold the debt above the US's head.

Well they should stop holding above our head and call it in. America deserves to be punished for our stupidity.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 9:32 am

Cekoviu wrote:
San Lumen wrote:His base wont care that our credibility worldwide is now destroyed

There's been nothing left to destroy for a year and a half.

Figures.
Donald Trump has no clue as to what "insuring the domestic tranquility" means

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Postby Telconi » Wed May 09, 2018 9:34 am

San Lumen wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:But they won't, because half of them need America to defend them, and the other half would rather hold the debt above the US's head.

Well they should stop holding above our head and call it in. America deserves to be punished for our stupidity.


Well I guess it's good the rest of the world doesn't hate America as much as you.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 09, 2018 9:35 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Well they should stop holding above our head and call it in. America deserves to be punished for our stupidity.


Well I guess it's good the rest of the world doesn't hate America as much as you.


Well we just destroyed what little credibility we had left but im sure that doesnt matter to you in the slightest.

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Postby Pilarcraft » Wed May 09, 2018 9:36 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Well they should stop holding above our head and call it in. America deserves to be punished for our stupidity.


Well I guess it's good the rest of the world doesn't hate America as much as you.

It's international politics. Everyone hates everyone else. The point is that it's not beneficial to them, at this point, to point out that "The United States does not respect deals it's made"... It's not likely that it'll ever be beneficial to them, at this point in time where we barely have a duopoly of power.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 9:37 am

San Lumen wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Donald Trump is responsible for the sun rising every morning. Worship him.


Dalek: WOR-SHIP HIM! WOR-SHIP HIM!!!

sorry i couldn't resist

FTFY
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
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Postby Telconi » Wed May 09, 2018 9:37 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Well I guess it's good the rest of the world doesn't hate America as much as you.

It's international politics. Everyone hates everyone else. The point is that it's not beneficial to them, at this point, to point out that "The United States does not respect deals it's made"... It's not likely that it'll ever be beneficial to them, at this point in time where we barely have a duopoly of power.


Well sure, but according to San Lumen, they should harm themselves out of spite towards The States
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Postby Freezic Vast » Wed May 09, 2018 9:38 am

San Lumen wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:But they won't, because half of them need America to defend them, and the other half would rather hold the debt above the US's head.

Well they should stop holding above our head and call it in. America deserves to be punished for our stupidity.

Then the next time the rest of the world asks for our help, we won't bother them, let them deal with their own problems that they created, it'll be their own undoing.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 9:40 am

The nativism is thick...

~Jingo Bells... Jingo Bells... Jingo All The Way...~
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Cekoviu » Wed May 09, 2018 9:42 am

Petrasylvania wrote:The nativism is thick...

~Jingo Bells... Jingo Bells... Jingo All The Way...~

Heh, that's clever.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 09, 2018 9:42 am

Freezic Vast wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Well they should stop holding above our head and call it in. America deserves to be punished for our stupidity.

Then the next time the rest of the world asks for our help, we won't bother them, let them deal with their own problems that they created, it'll be their own undoing.


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Postby Telconi » Wed May 09, 2018 9:44 am

Vassenor wrote:
Freezic Vast wrote:Then the next time the rest of the world asks for our help, we won't bother them, let them deal with their own problems that they created, it'll be their own undoing.


"Worship us or we leave you to die"?


Being not douchey isn't the same as worship homie.
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 09, 2018 9:47 am

San Lumen wrote:

The rest of the world should punish us by violating treaties with us and call in our debts to them and stop loaning us money.


It was an executive agreement, not even a real treaty. At any rate, when the rest of the world finds the backbone to both defend themselves and do that, let me know. You are acting as if this is worse than what occured in Iraq. It's not to that point yet.

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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 09, 2018 9:47 am

Petrasylvania wrote:The nativism is thick...

~Jingo Bells... Jingo Bells... Jingo All The Way...~


Bill the Butcher warned us, we only had to listen

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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 09, 2018 9:48 am

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Well they should stop holding above our head and call it in. America deserves to be punished for our stupidity.


Well I guess it's good the rest of the world doesn't hate America as much as you.

Oh we do, we're just not gonna act stupid about it.
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Postby The East Marches II » Wed May 09, 2018 9:48 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:This is gonna enter conspiracy territory ain’t it?


Common sense territory. Hope that isn't a big disappointment, lol.
NK is a goddamn vassal state. Let's not forget who has kept them afloat since 1954. (hint... CHINA!!!)

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This is a good post tbh

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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 09, 2018 9:49 am

Telconi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
"Worship us or we leave you to die"?


Being not douchey isn't the same as worship homie.

I guess you dont care that our word no longer means anything. Let's default on the debt next.

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Postby Telconi » Wed May 09, 2018 9:51 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Being not douchey isn't the same as worship homie.

I guess you dont care that our word no longer means anything. Let's default on the debt next.


No, mistrust is a good thing.
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
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-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 9:51 am

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Being not douchey isn't the same as worship homie.

I guess you dont care that our word no longer means anything. Let's default on the debt next.

Donnie keeps it up and he'll announce the United States is filing for bankruptcy!
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

New Flag Courtesy of The Realist Polities

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