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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 09, 2018 8:13 am

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Ifreann wrote:Maybe we should give Trump credit for the weather. Sure, maybe he isn't doing anything to make the sun shine, but it's shining while he's president.

He literally sent a diplomat and got prisoners back, that’s literally he did something

He sent Mike Pompeo to North Korea. Also Kim Jong Un released those three prisoners. How do we know that the second thing happened because of the first? Maybe releasing them was Kim's idea entirely and all Trump has done is said "Yes, thank you, I'll send someone to pick them up".
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 8:14 am

Ifreann wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:C’mon are we going to be so petty we can’t acknowledge prisoners came back under the Trump administration

Maybe we should give Trump credit for the weather. Sure, maybe he isn't doing anything to make the sun shine, but it's shining while he's president.

But sunshine cred or not, it turns out that shit still stinks, which in turn means that shit's stink is on him. :lol:
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Postby Pilarcraft » Wed May 09, 2018 8:15 am

Ifreann wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:He literally sent a diplomat and got prisoners back, that’s literally he did something

He sent Mike Pompeo to North Korea. Also Kim Jong Un released those three prisoners. How do we know that the second thing happened because of the first? Maybe releasing them was Kim's idea entirely and all Trump has done is said "Yes, thank you, I'll send someone to pick them up".

From what we know of Kim's MO so far, that doesn't seem likely. What is likely is for Pompeo to have done something while in NK. Come on, I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but this level of "maybe it was the air" is just dumb.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 09, 2018 8:18 am

Ifreann wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:He literally sent a diplomat and got prisoners back, that’s literally he did something

He sent Mike Pompeo to North Korea. Also Kim Jong Un released those three prisoners. How do we know that the second thing happened because of the first? Maybe releasing them was Kim's idea entirely and all Trump has done is said "Yes, thank you, I'll send someone to pick them up".

I highly doubt the brutal dictator of North Korea just woke up one day and said, “you know what, I’m gonna do something nice”
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Postby Sovaal » Wed May 09, 2018 8:19 am

Ifreann wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:He literally sent a diplomat and got prisoners back, that’s literally he did something

He sent Mike Pompeo to North Korea. Also Kim Jong Un released those three prisoners. How do we know that the second thing happened because of the first? Maybe releasing them was Kim's idea entirely and all Trump has done is said "Yes, thank you, I'll send someone to pick them up".

Considering that the Norks haven’t had the best track record when it comes to prisoners I doubt it.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed May 09, 2018 8:20 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
Ifreann wrote:He sent Mike Pompeo to North Korea. Also Kim Jong Un released those three prisoners. How do we know that the second thing happened because of the first? Maybe releasing them was Kim's idea entirely and all Trump has done is said "Yes, thank you, I'll send someone to pick them up".

From what we know of Kim's MO so far, that doesn't seem likely. What is likely is for Pompeo to have done something while in NK. Come on, I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but this level of "maybe it was the air" is just dumb.


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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 8:20 am

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Ifreann wrote:He sent Mike Pompeo to North Korea. Also Kim Jong Un released those three prisoners. How do we know that the second thing happened because of the first? Maybe releasing them was Kim's idea entirely and all Trump has done is said "Yes, thank you, I'll send someone to pick them up".

I highly doubt the brutal dictator of North Korea just woke up one day and said, “you know what, I’m gonna do something nice”


Nah. Of course not. More like Xi Jinping woke up one day and called Kim with an offer he couldn't refuse.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 09, 2018 8:22 am

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:I highly doubt the brutal dictator of North Korea just woke up one day and said, “you know what, I’m gonna do something nice”


Nah. Of course not. More like Xi Jinping woke up one day and called Kim with an offer he couldn't refuse.

You think Xi would use his political clout to free American prisoners in North Korea that likely wouldn’t get him anything in return?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed May 09, 2018 8:26 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:I highly doubt the brutal dictator of North Korea just woke up one day and said, “you know what, I’m gonna do something nice”


Nah. Of course not. More like Xi Jinping woke up one day and called Kim with an offer he couldn't refuse.


Why would Xi do that?
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 8:26 am

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Nah. Of course not. More like Xi Jinping woke up one day and called Kim with an offer he couldn't refuse.

You think Xi would use his political clout to free American prisoners in North Korea that likely wouldn’t get him anything in return?


Think bigger. Way bigger.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Wed May 09, 2018 8:26 am

So, what are your opinion on the Iran nuclear deal
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 09, 2018 8:28 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
Ifreann wrote:He sent Mike Pompeo to North Korea. Also Kim Jong Un released those three prisoners. How do we know that the second thing happened because of the first? Maybe releasing them was Kim's idea entirely and all Trump has done is said "Yes, thank you, I'll send someone to pick them up".

From what we know of Kim's MO so far, that doesn't seem likely.

What is so unlikely about him buttering up America ahead of peace/denuclearisation/reunification negotiations?
What is likely is for Pompeo to have done something while in NK.

Hammered out the details of when and where the meeting with Trump will happen.
Come on, I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but this level of "maybe it was the air" is just dumb.

I'll give Trump whatever credit he is due for whatever he did to make this happen. I kinda need to know what he did to make this happen, though.


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Ifreann wrote:He sent Mike Pompeo to North Korea. Also Kim Jong Un released those three prisoners. How do we know that the second thing happened because of the first? Maybe releasing them was Kim's idea entirely and all Trump has done is said "Yes, thank you, I'll send someone to pick them up".

I highly doubt the brutal dictator of North Korea just woke up one day and said, “you know what, I’m gonna do something nice”

I would also doubt that. On the other hand, the brutal dictator of North Korea releasing some prisoners as a show of good will ahead of negotiations with an egotistical moron is somewhat more plausible.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed May 09, 2018 8:31 am

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:You think Xi would use his political clout to free American prisoners in North Korea that likely wouldn’t get him anything in return?


Think bigger. Way bigger.

This is gonna enter conspiracy territory ain’t it?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed May 09, 2018 8:38 am

Ifreann wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:C’mon are we going to be so petty we can’t acknowledge prisoners came back under the Trump administration

Maybe we should give Trump credit for the weather. Sure, maybe he isn't doing anything to make the sun shine, but it's shining while he's president.


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Postby Gravlen » Wed May 09, 2018 8:39 am

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Which they should. He did absolutely nothing to deserve it.


Agreed. It's the Nobel Peace Prize, not the Nobel Preemptive Peace Prize.

How so? There's no requirement for positive results, only that the person or organization has done the most or the best work.

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Agreed. It's the Nobel Peace Prize, not the Nobel Preemptive Peace Prize.

And Obama agreed, which makes everyone except some guys in Sweden.

Yeah, those damned Swedes are to blame for the decision of the The Norwegian Nobel Committee... Probably located in Stockholm, Finland.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 09, 2018 8:45 am

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Ifreann wrote:Maybe we should give Trump credit for the weather. Sure, maybe he isn't doing anything to make the sun shine, but it's shining while he's president.


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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 09, 2018 8:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Maybe we should give Trump credit for the weather. Sure, maybe he isn't doing anything to make the sun shine, but it's shining while he's president.


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Postby Gravlen » Wed May 09, 2018 8:48 am

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Not relevant, rest of the world doesn't matter.

Israel already attacked Iranian troops in Syria in an overnight strike. Although Assad seemed weirdly apathetic.

Well, European companies will just keep expanding in the Iranian market. Also, observers from other countries are there as well. This isn't just a US-Iran deal. Sure, losing the US through sanctions is a hit, but the EU can just go about their merry way.

Edit: the Iranian president has already said that they will keep their end of the bargain even if the US doesn't.

The question is what political power the president will have in a long term perspective. The conservative hawks in Iran - who were against this deal in the first place - are already maneuvering to make him take the blame for trusting the US in the first place. Trump backing out of the deal, and using harsh rhetoric while doing so, fuels hardliners and makes it more likely Iran will restart their nuclear program.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 8:51 am

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Think bigger. Way bigger.

This is gonna enter conspiracy territory ain’t it?


Common sense territory. Hope that isn't a big disappointment, lol.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed May 09, 2018 8:52 am

Gravlen wrote:
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Agreed. It's the Nobel Peace Prize, not the Nobel Preemptive Peace Prize.

How so? There's no requirement for positive results, only that the person or organization has done the most or the best work.

Farnhamia wrote:And Obama agreed, which makes everyone except some guys in Sweden.

Yeah, those damned Swedes are to blame for the decision of the The Norwegian Nobel Committee... Probably located in Stockholm, Finland.

The Swedes have been quietly infiltrating the institutions of the other Scandinavian nations. Soon Operation Reverse Kalmar Union will be complete.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed May 09, 2018 8:52 am

Vassenor wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Maybe we should give Trump credit for the weather. Sure, maybe he isn't doing anything to make the sun shine, but it's shining while he's president.


Donald Trump is responsible for the sun rising every morning. Worship him.

...and the shit he stinks of. :eyebrow:
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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 09, 2018 8:55 am

With the withdrawal from the Iran deal I hope Trump supporters are happy that our credibility worldwide has been obliterated. Many countries will be reluctant to enter into agreements with us as we can no longer be trusted to keep our word.

Not only that put many companies will lose billions of dollars in business including Boeing who will lose 20 billion in contracts but that's putting America first and another example of winning.

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed May 09, 2018 9:04 am

West Leas Oros wrote:So, what are your opinion on the Iran nuclear deal


Asinine, impulsive and stupid move that was only made to throw red meat at the base.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed May 09, 2018 9:07 am

Major-Tom wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:So, what are your opinion on the Iran nuclear deal


Asinine, impulsive and stupid move that was only made to throw red meat at the base.

His base wont care that our credibility worldwide is now destroyed

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