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by Socialist Czechia » Fri May 04, 2018 3:55 am
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Seangoli » Fri May 04, 2018 4:02 am
Autumn Wind wrote:Seangoli wrote:
The truly idiotic part of the "Got Mine, Fuck You All" is that I know a metric ass ton of conservative minded libertarian types who do not realize that no, they do not get theirs. They got fucked too before the ACA was in place. I know people who have benefited immensely from the ACA and the protections it provides, and they still think the government should get out of healthcare, even though these same damn people were bitching and moaning about the private health insurance industry before the ACA was passed. They fail to realize that they are fucked without it, yet they want to get rid of it because they think they can somehow afford non-subsidized insurance.
Then again, what do I expect when people think that Republican policies will bring about economic and wage growth, when almost all of the poorest states in the country are hardcore Republican, whether you account for it by actual wages, per capita income, median income, or even GDP. It's a fucking joke.
I still recall people holding banners saying “get government out of my Medicare”
by Albrenia » Fri May 04, 2018 4:12 am
Socialist Czechia wrote:So, what if Mike Pence became POTUS?
Wouldn't that be actually still worse? This option is not much widely debated, as I see, which is surprising. If you manage to kick Trump out, will he be replaced by something better?
by Seangoli » Fri May 04, 2018 4:16 am
Socialist Czechia wrote:So, what if Mike Pence became POTUS?
Wouldn't that be actually still worse? This option is not much widely debated, as I see, which is surprising. If you manage to kick Trump out, will he be replaced by something better?
by Tobleste » Fri May 04, 2018 5:15 am
Albrenia wrote:Bombadil wrote:
In terms of his political agenda he does, and he has unwavering support among Christian voters.. I really don't see Christian leaders speaking out against Trump that much.. I mean given his lifestyle they should be at the forefront of outcry as keepers of the moral spirit of America but they're not.
Capitalist religion in America has been roundly exposed for the utter degeneracy and moral bankruptcy of its profession.
Yeah, the religious right sold out to Trump it seems. Not surprising though, considering.
by Internationalist Bastard » Fri May 04, 2018 5:55 am
Socialist Czechia wrote:So, what if Mike Pence became POTUS?
Wouldn't that be actually still worse? This option is not much widely debated, as I see, which is surprising. If you manage to kick Trump out, will he be replaced by something better?
by Socialist Czechia » Fri May 04, 2018 6:01 am
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Socialist Czechia wrote:So, what if Mike Pence became POTUS?
Wouldn't that be actually still worse? This option is not much widely debated, as I see, which is surprising. If you manage to kick Trump out, will he be replaced by something better?
I don’t want a man who wants to electrocute me as president
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Ifreann » Fri May 04, 2018 6:04 am
by Petrasylvania » Fri May 04, 2018 6:20 am
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Socialist Czechia wrote:So, what if Mike Pence became POTUS?
Wouldn't that be actually still worse? This option is not much widely debated, as I see, which is surprising. If you manage to kick Trump out, will he be replaced by something better?
I don’t want a man who wants to electrocute me as president
by Internationalist Bastard » Fri May 04, 2018 6:25 am
by Petrasylvania » Fri May 04, 2018 6:28 am
by West Leas Oros » Fri May 04, 2018 6:29 am
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by Internationalist Bastard » Fri May 04, 2018 6:29 am
by Internationalist Bastard » Fri May 04, 2018 6:30 am
by Ifreann » Fri May 04, 2018 6:30 am
by West Leas Oros » Fri May 04, 2018 6:31 am
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by Internationalist Bastard » Fri May 04, 2018 6:31 am
by Internationalist Bastard » Fri May 04, 2018 6:32 am
by Geneviev » Fri May 04, 2018 6:32 am
Arlenton wrote:That's... That's not normal.
Albrenia wrote:That sounds terrible - if that sort of stuff was happening to me I'd seriously consider moving to Finland and going off news and social media until the aftermath of the next election.
Not even joking. You're a tougher person than I am, no doubt.
Socialist Czechia wrote:So, what if Mike Pence became POTUS?
Wouldn't that be actually still worse? This option is not much widely debated, as I see, which is surprising. If you manage to kick Trump out, will he be replaced by something better?
by West Leas Oros » Fri May 04, 2018 6:35 am
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by Socialist Czechia » Fri May 04, 2018 7:03 am
Geneviev wrote:Gosh, no. Mike Pence supports conversion therapy and, unlike Trump, he knows what he's doing. No.
"Those who reached my boundary, their seed is not; their hearts and their souls are finished forever and ever. As for those who had assembled before them on the sea, the full flame was their front before the harbour mouths, and a wall of metal upon the shore surrounded them. They were dragged, overturned, and laid low upon the beach; slain and made heaps from stern to bow of their galleys, while all their things were cast upon the water." - Ramesses III., Battle of the Delta
by Jerzylvania » Fri May 04, 2018 8:03 am
by Cannot think of a name » Fri May 04, 2018 8:13 am
Socialist Czechia wrote:So, what if Mike Pence became POTUS?
Wouldn't that be actually still worse? This option is not much widely debated, as I see, which is surprising. If you manage to kick Trump out, will he be replaced by something better?
by Petrasylvania » Fri May 04, 2018 8:16 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:Socialist Czechia wrote:So, what if Mike Pence became POTUS?
Wouldn't that be actually still worse? This option is not much widely debated, as I see, which is surprising. If you manage to kick Trump out, will he be replaced by something better?
It has been debated. Frequently. And it remains stupid.
Rule of law matters. The institutions matter. If we ignore these things because the next in line is not ideal we've chucked that over for nothing more than half assed concern trolling. Fuck that bullshit.
Pence will be a president, probably a bad one. But still just a president. With an agenda that will still need support of the legislative body. But he won't be one that runs ripshod over our institutions or flagrantly uses the office to enrich himself.
I'm so sick of Trump being passed off as the least worst option to rationalize letting his bullshit continue. He is the worst option. If you supported him, if you wrung your hands with your vague concerns about an objectively qualified candidate who understood the office and the process fucking own your goddamn mistake. Enough of this trying to pretend this is anything other than a fucking disaster and if and when evidence of his wrongdoing is presented we should take action because these things fucking matter. Vote Pence the fuck out in 2020 but don't excuse a robber baron president by pretending again that he's the worst best option.
by USS Monitor » Fri May 04, 2018 8:39 am
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