Trump MAGAThread XII: A Tarriff-ic Thread!

[Conserative Morality]

Ah, still PTSD but not PTSD.

I got it wrong. It's actually Post-Trump Stress Disorder. Honestly, I think it's a real problem.

Pretty fucking dumb article.

[Northern Davincia]

Yes, healthcare providers do have that right. Beyond that I'm thrilled to see continued inroads of defunding and privatization.

Cuz I don’t have enough anxiety seeing the doctor let’s add the fear that the only GP in miles may tell me to fuck off

What are the actual odds of that happening, let alone with every doctor working in a single area?

[Cekoviu]

I got it wrong. It's actually Post-Trump Stress Disorder. Honestly, I think it's a real problem.

Pretty fucking dumb article.

It's kind of interesting, though framing it as a disorder is dumb.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Cuz I don’t have enough anxiety seeing the doctor let’s add the fear that the only GP in miles may tell me to fuck off

What are the actual odds of that happening, let alone with every doctor working in a single area?

There’s literally one doctors office within a 20 minutes drive of me and I’m a trans woman in the rural south? Pretty solid actually

[Conserative Morality]

What are the actual odds of that happening, let alone with every doctor working in a single area?

I have a chronic disease for which the closest specialist is an hour away if I have severe problems.

God help me if he turns me away.

[Northern Davincia]

What are the actual odds of that happening, let alone with every doctor working in a single area?

There’s literally one doctors office within a 20 minutes drive of me and I’m a trans woman in the rural south? Pretty solid actually

Sounds like a chance I'm willing to take. How far is the next doctor's office?

[Internationalist Bastard]

There’s literally one doctors office within a 20 minutes drive of me and I’m a trans woman in the rural south? Pretty solid actually

Sounds like a chance I'm willing to take. How far is the next doctor's office?

But under an hour, depends on traffic really

[Northern Davincia]

What are the actual odds of that happening, let alone with every doctor working in a single area?

I have a chronic disease for which the closest specialist is an hour away if I have severe problems.

God help me if he turns me away.

Surely the demand raised by rejected patients will lead to more specialists.
:^)

Sounds like a chance I'm willing to take. How far is the next doctor's office?

But under an hour, depends on traffic really

That's hardly unreasonable.

[Conserative Morality]

Surely the demand raised by rejected patients will lead to more specialists.
:^)

That will surely help me when I'm puking up blood by the bucket. How many years does it take to graduate from med school again? =^)

[Internationalist Bastard]

I have a chronic disease for which the closest specialist is an hour away if I have severe problems.

God help me if he turns me away.

Surely the demand raised by rejected patients will lead to more specialists.
:^)

But under an hour, depends on traffic really

That's hardly unreasonable.

That’s assuming those doctors will take me. And there’s my husband to consider. He needs physical therapy and there’s only one guy I know anywhere near me

[Valgora]

Surely the demand raised by rejected patients will lead to more specialists.
:^)

That will surely help me when I'm puking up blood by the bucket. How many years does it take to graduate from med school again? =^)

4 years of college
3-4 years of med school

Residency differs depending on the specialty.

[Geneviev]

I got it wrong. It's actually Post-Trump Stress Disorder. Honestly, I think it's a real problem.

Pretty fucking dumb article.

Yes, calling it a disorder is ridiculous. But for me, my body responds to stress in the most extreme way. When I'm stressed, I throw up. Since a certain stressful election, I've lost a fair bit of weight to the stress response. Post-Trump Stress Disorder may not be a real disorder, but people like me are actually negatively impacted by the psychological effects of a fear mongering president who seems to enjoy threatening countries on Twitter and making fun of anyone who disagrees with him and calling whoever he doesn't like fake news. So the article seems ridiculous, and it is, but an explanation of what the heck happened that eventful Thursday is nice, and having a name for what my brain is doing that I can use jokingly is also nice.

[Hittanryan]

Whereas Trump thinks healthcare providers should be allowed to refuse any to give sort of treatment to someone purely on the basis of the Doctor's personal morals.

Yes, healthcare providers do have that right. Beyond that I'm thrilled to see continued inroads of defunding and privatization.

When Obamacare first went into effect, Republicans cried crocodile tears that "the government wouldn't let you keep your doctor." Turned out it was the health insurance companies who wouldn't let you keep your doctor. They reduced their networks until they consisted of one doctor: the cheapest one in the area with almost inevitably the worst records.

But go on, tell me how our privatized healthcare system offers better consumer choice and better medical outcomes again.

[Oil exporting People]

Was enough to get Clinton impeached.

Actually Clinton was impeached for charges of perjury and obstruction, not his 'sexual conquests'. If you ask me he shouldn't of been impeached at all, the Clinton charges were still bogus and unproven.

Clinton himself admitted to it.

[The East Marches II]

Yes, healthcare providers do have that right. Beyond that I'm thrilled to see continued inroads of defunding and privatization.

When Obamacare first went into effect, Republicans cried crocodile tears that "the government wouldn't let you keep your doctor." Turned out it was the health insurance companies who wouldn't let you keep your doctor. They reduced their networks until they consisted of one doctor: the cheapest one in the area with almost inevitably the worst records.

But go on, tell me how our privatized healthcare system offers better consumer choice and better medical outcomes again.

Are we throwing accusations of wrecking now

[Albrenia]

Whereas Trump thinks healthcare providers should be allowed to refuse any to give sort of treatment to someone purely on the basis of the Doctor's personal morals.

Yes, healthcare providers do have that right. Beyond that I'm thrilled to see continued inroads of defunding and privatization.

Another reason I'm glad I don't live in the US, I guess.

[Arlenton]

Pretty fucking dumb article.

Yes, calling it a disorder is ridiculous. But for me, my body responds to stress in the most extreme way. When I'm stressed, I throw up. Since a certain stressful election, I've lost a fair bit of weight to the stress response. Post-Trump Stress Disorder may not be a real disorder, but people like me are actually negatively impacted by the psychological effects of a fear mongering president who seems to enjoy threatening countries on Twitter and making fun of anyone who disagrees with him and calling whoever he doesn't like fake news. So the article seems ridiculous, and it is, but an explanation of what the heck happened that eventful Thursday is nice, and having a name for what my brain is doing that I can use jokingly is also nice.

That's... That's not normal.

[Albrenia]

Pretty fucking dumb article.

Yes, calling it a disorder is ridiculous. But for me, my body responds to stress in the most extreme way. When I'm stressed, I throw up. Since a certain stressful election, I've lost a fair bit of weight to the stress response. Post-Trump Stress Disorder may not be a real disorder, but people like me are actually negatively impacted by the psychological effects of a fear mongering president who seems to enjoy threatening countries on Twitter and making fun of anyone who disagrees with him and calling whoever he doesn't like fake news. So the article seems ridiculous, and it is, but an explanation of what the heck happened that eventful Thursday is nice, and having a name for what my brain is doing that I can use jokingly is also nice.

That sounds terrible - if that sort of stuff was happening to me I'd seriously consider moving to Finland and going off news and social media until the aftermath of the next election.

Not even joking. You're a tougher person than I am, no doubt.

[Seangoli]

Pretty fucking dumb article.

Yes, calling it a disorder is ridiculous. But for me, my body responds to stress in the most extreme way. When I'm stressed, I throw up. Since a certain stressful election, I've lost a fair bit of weight to the stress response. Post-Trump Stress Disorder may not be a real disorder, but people like me are actually negatively impacted by the psychological effects of a fear mongering president who seems to enjoy threatening countries on Twitter and making fun of anyone who disagrees with him and calling whoever he doesn't like fake news. So the article seems ridiculous, and it is, but an explanation of what the heck happened that eventful Thursday is nice, and having a name for what my brain is doing that I can use jokingly is also nice.

It's like people forgot what the healthcare system was *before* the ACA was passed, and how depressingly miserable it was. Going back to that system is downright idiotic. The notion that we have the best healthcare system in the world has a massive asterisk next to it, as the majority of people couldn't actually afford it. At all. If you couldn't? Yeah, good luck. That $29/month health insurance you could get covered nothing, did nothing, and was absolutely a scam not worth the paper it was printed on.

[Vassenor]

Whereas Trump thinks healthcare providers should be allowed to refuse any to give sort of treatment to someone purely on the basis of the Doctor's personal morals.

Yes, healthcare providers do have that right. Beyond that I'm thrilled to see continued inroads of defunding and privatization.

Remember, it's perfectly OK to let someone die just because you think they're icky.

Seriously, this constant insistence that personal morals are more important than professional ethics is just really fucking disgusting.

[Petrasylvania]

Yes, healthcare providers do have that right. Beyond that I'm thrilled to see continued inroads of defunding and privatization.

Remember, it's perfectly OK to let someone die just because you think they're icky.

Seriously, this constant insistence that personal morals are more important than professional ethics is just really fucking disgusting.

Libertarianism. "Got Mine, Fuck You All." The sort of attitude that ends up letting the zombie horde in past the barricades.

[Vassenor]

But seriously, how is this "doctors should be allowed to discriminate" compatible with this line from the AMA's "Declaration of Personal Responsibility":

3. Treat the sick and injured with competence and compassion and without prejudice.

Or these ones from the Principles of Medical Ethics (2001):

I. A physician shall be dedicated to providing competent medical care, with compassion and respect for human dignity and rights.
[...]
IX. A physician shall support access to medical care for all people.

[Albrenia]

Remember, it's perfectly OK to let someone die just because you think they're icky.

Seriously, this constant insistence that personal morals are more important than professional ethics is just really fucking disgusting.

Libertarianism. "Got Mine, Fuck You All." The sort of attitude that ends up letting the zombie horde in past the barricades.

Would seem so.

[Seangoli]

Remember, it's perfectly OK to let someone die just because you think they're icky.

Seriously, this constant insistence that personal morals are more important than professional ethics is just really fucking disgusting.

Libertarianism. "Got Mine, Fuck You All." The sort of attitude that ends up letting the zombie horde in past the barricades.

The truly idiotic part of the "Got Mine, Fuck You All" is that I know a metric ass ton of conservative minded libertarian types who do not realize that no, they do not get theirs. They got fucked too before the ACA was in place. I know people who have benefited immensely from the ACA and the protections it provides, and they still think the government should get out of healthcare, even though these same damn people were bitching and moaning about the private health insurance industry before the ACA was passed. They fail to realize that they are fucked without it, yet they want to get rid of it because they think they can somehow afford non-subsidized insurance.

Then again, what do I expect when people think that Republican policies will bring about economic and wage growth, when almost all of the poorest states in the country are hardcore Republican, whether you account for it by actual wages, per capita income, median income, or even GDP. Meanwhile, almost all of the states with the highest wages, per capita income, and GDP are typical Blue states. It's a fucking joke.

[Autumn Wind]

Libertarianism. "Got Mine, Fuck You All." The sort of attitude that ends up letting the zombie horde in past the barricades.

The truly idiotic part of the "Got Mine, Fuck You All" is that I know a metric ass ton of conservative minded libertarian types who do not realize that no, they do not get theirs. They got fucked too before the ACA was in place. I know people who have benefited immensely from the ACA and the protections it provides, and they still think the government should get out of healthcare, even though these same damn people were bitching and moaning about the private health insurance industry before the ACA was passed. They fail to realize that they are fucked without it, yet they want to get rid of it because they think they can somehow afford non-subsidized insurance.

Then again, what do I expect when people think that Republican policies will bring about economic and wage growth, when almost all of the poorest states in the country are hardcore Republican, whether you account for it by actual wages, per capita income, median income, or even GDP. It's a fucking joke.

I still recall people holding banners saying “get government out of my Medicare”