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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 03, 2018 6:02 am

So in the space of one soft-ball interview, Guiliani managed to admit to the following things:

  • Campaign Finance violations by Trump of $130,000.
  • Criminal violations of felony money laundering and structuring.
  • Obstruction of Justice, reconfirming Trump’s intent was to fire Comey to influence the 2016 Election Fraud investigation.
  • Told Jared Kushner that he is “disposable”, appearing to indicate crimes could be pinned on him to avoid Ivanka Trump being criminally prosecuted.
  • Compared the FBI Agents of the SDNY to Nazi Stormtroopers.
  • Called Rod Rosenstein, “disgraceful” for stating the Department of Justice would not be extorted by threats.

Whew.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 03, 2018 7:09 am

Vassenor wrote:So in the space of one soft-ball interview, Guiliani managed to admit to the following things:

  • Campaign Finance violations by Trump of $130,000.
  • Criminal violations of felony money laundering and structuring.
  • Obstruction of Justice, reconfirming Trump’s intent was to fire Comey to influence the 2016 Election Fraud investigation.
  • Told Jared Kushner that he is “disposable”, appearing to indicate crimes could be pinned on him to avoid Ivanka Trump being criminally prosecuted.
  • Compared the FBI Agents of the SDNY to Nazi Stormtroopers.
  • Called Rod Rosenstein, “disgraceful” for stating the Department of Justice would not be extorted by threats.

Whew.

A tremendous addition to the Trump legal team.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Thu May 03, 2018 7:11 am

For the record there is no such thing as Nazi Stormtroopers. Infantry assault tactics had evolved substantially by ww2 and stormtroopers we're not employed post ww1.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 7:22 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:For the record there is no such thing as Nazi Stormtroopers. Infantry assault tactics had evolved substantially by ww2 and stormtroopers we're not employed post ww1.

SS paramilitary personnel are colloquialy referred to as stormtroopers, accuracy not withstanding.
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Postby Ascysia » Thu May 03, 2018 7:34 am

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Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:For the record there is no such thing as Nazi Stormtroopers. Infantry assault tactics had evolved substantially by ww2 and stormtroopers we're not employed post ww1.

SS paramilitary personnel are colloquialy referred to as stormtroopers, accuracy not withstanding.

As well as the Sturmabteilung, who's name literally means Storm Detachment.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 7:51 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So in the space of one soft-ball interview, Guiliani managed to admit to the following things:

  • Campaign Finance violations by Trump of $130,000.
  • Criminal violations of felony money laundering and structuring.
  • Obstruction of Justice, reconfirming Trump’s intent was to fire Comey to influence the 2016 Election Fraud investigation.
  • Told Jared Kushner that he is “disposable”, appearing to indicate crimes could be pinned on him to avoid Ivanka Trump being criminally prosecuted.
  • Compared the FBI Agents of the SDNY to Nazi Stormtroopers.
  • Called Rod Rosenstein, “disgraceful” for stating the Department of Justice would not be extorted by threats.

Whew.

A tremendous addition to the Trump legal team.


Sarcasm aside, if Trump wants another over-the-hill has been mouthpiece out in the media talking trash for him, then hell yeah. :lol2:
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu May 03, 2018 8:20 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:For the record there is no such thing as Nazi Stormtroopers. Infantry assault tactics had evolved substantially by ww2 and stormtroopers we're not employed post ww1.

The CEF was also called by the germans as "Stormtroopers".

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Postby Painisia » Thu May 03, 2018 8:25 am

I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 8:29 am

Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency

The raid on Harold "Fraggle Doc" Bornstein's office over talk of Donnie taking Propecia shows that Donnie is an impulsive snowflake who is very likely to overreact to something that even his critics would not find criminal with something that is likely to be criminal.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 8:32 am

Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency

IMHO he resigns bc Mueller has his tax returns and all the outside connecting dots. That is what Trump wants kept hidden the most, by far. Trump could trade his presidency for getting off the hook on tax evasion, money laundering or any number or combination of financial crimes.
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Postby Painisia » Thu May 03, 2018 8:35 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency

IMHO he resigns bc Mueller has his tax returns and all the outside connecting dots. That is what Trump wants kept hidden the most, by far. Trump could trade his presidency for getting off the hook on tax evasion, money laundering or any number or combination of financial crimes.

If he resigns, it would be interesting to see if Mike Pence pardons him like Gerald did in 1974 to Nixon
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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 03, 2018 8:35 am

Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency


Was enough to get Clinton impeached.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 03, 2018 8:44 am

Vassenor wrote:
Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency


Was enough to get Clinton impeached.


Clinton wasn't impeached, the Senate never went forward with it iirc.
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Postby Painisia » Thu May 03, 2018 8:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency


Was enough to get Clinton impeached.

But he didn't resign
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu May 03, 2018 8:50 am

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Was enough to get Clinton impeached.


Clinton wasn't impeached, the Senate never went forward with it iirc.

Impeachment is the action of the House in bringing charges. The Senate absolutely went forward with it, there was a trial, the Chief Justice presiding, and he was acquitted.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 03, 2018 8:52 am

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Clinton wasn't impeached, the Senate never went forward with it iirc.

Impeachment is the action of the House in bringing charges. The Senate absolutely went forward with it, there was a trial, the Chief Justice presiding, and he was acquitted.


And here I thought that was all just the House being silly.
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Postby Steffan » Thu May 03, 2018 8:57 am

Vassenor wrote:
Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency


Was enough to get Clinton impeached.

I wouldn't call this impeachable. It has sleazy implications, but it's not illegal by law. Unless he said it under oath somewhere & I'm not remembering...
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Postby Van Riebeeck Land » Thu May 03, 2018 8:57 am

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Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency


Was enough to get Clinton impeached.

Actually Clinton was impeached for charges of perjury and obstruction, not his 'sexual conquests'. If you ask me he shouldn't of been impeached at all, the Clinton charges were still bogus and unproven.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 10:10 am

Painisia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:IMHO he resigns bc Mueller has his tax returns and all the outside connecting dots. That is what Trump wants kept hidden the most, by far. Trump could trade his presidency for getting off the hook on tax evasion, money laundering or any number or combination of financial crimes.

If he resigns, it would be interesting to see if Mike Pence pardons him like Gerald did in 1974 to Nixon


Sure. And it would effect his standing with the voters severely should he run in 2020.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 10:14 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Was enough to get Clinton impeached.

I wouldn't call this impeachable. It has sleazy implications, but it's not illegal by law. Unless he said it under oath somewhere & I'm not remembering...


Bubba wasn't facing anything as far or wide ranging during his impeachment proceedings as Trump could be. He's more comparable to Nixon. That's why I see a resignation instead.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 03, 2018 11:30 am

Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency

No one really cares that he had sex. Actually, the less we can think about that specifically the better. He has had three wives and during the campaign no less managed to have evidence of him bragging about sexual assault. He talked on radio about barging into dressing rooms during beauty shows and when women complained that he barged into dressing rooms during beauty shows it was met with a shrug by his supporters.

Like with Clinton, it's not about the sex. We know that Trump is a horn dog and we had a referendum on it and enough people decided that they didn't give a shit.

But apparently Trump and Cohen thought this, for some reason, would be too much during the election and therefore Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 to shut the fuck up about it so it wouldn't effect the campaign.

If it was a campaign expense, money spent expressly for the campaign, then that falls under campaign finance laws where it would be illegal.

This is still getting Capone on tax evasion. This is an out of nowhere wound that they can't seem to help picking at. No one was investigating his adventures in dick. This is just regular ass out of control Donald.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Painisia wrote:I don't think Trump would resign just because he got some booty years ago. The Constitution doesn't make sexual intercourse an offense and Republicans have majority in both Houses, so impeachment is unrealistic. But I think he is not fit for presidency

No one really cares that he had sex. Actually, the less we can think about that specifically the better. He has had three wives and during the campaign no less managed to have evidence of him bragging about sexual assault. He talked on radio about barging into dressing rooms during beauty shows and when women complained that he barged into dressing rooms during beauty shows it was met with a shrug by his supporters.

Like with Clinton, it's not about the sex. We know that Trump is a horn dog and we had a referendum on it and enough people decided that they didn't give a shit.

But apparently Trump and Cohen thought this, for some reason, would be too much during the election and therefore Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 to shut the fuck up about it so it wouldn't effect the campaign.

If it was a campaign expense, money spent expressly for the campaign, then that falls under campaign finance laws where it would be illegal.

This is still getting Capone on tax evasion. This is an out of nowhere wound that they can't seem to help picking at. No one was investigating his adventures in dick. This is just regular ass out of control Donald.


As long as we are rid of him, fine.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu May 03, 2018 12:04 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:No one really cares that he had sex. Actually, the less we can think about that specifically the better. He has had three wives and during the campaign no less managed to have evidence of him bragging about sexual assault. He talked on radio about barging into dressing rooms during beauty shows and when women complained that he barged into dressing rooms during beauty shows it was met with a shrug by his supporters.

Like with Clinton, it's not about the sex. We know that Trump is a horn dog and we had a referendum on it and enough people decided that they didn't give a shit.

But apparently Trump and Cohen thought this, for some reason, would be too much during the election and therefore Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 to shut the fuck up about it so it wouldn't effect the campaign.

If it was a campaign expense, money spent expressly for the campaign, then that falls under campaign finance laws where it would be illegal.

This is still getting Capone on tax evasion. This is an out of nowhere wound that they can't seem to help picking at. No one was investigating his adventures in dick. This is just regular ass out of control Donald.


As long as we are rid of him, fine.


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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu May 03, 2018 12:11 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:No one really cares that he had sex. Actually, the less we can think about that specifically the better. He has had three wives and during the campaign no less managed to have evidence of him bragging about sexual assault. He talked on radio about barging into dressing rooms during beauty shows and when women complained that he barged into dressing rooms during beauty shows it was met with a shrug by his supporters.

Like with Clinton, it's not about the sex. We know that Trump is a horn dog and we had a referendum on it and enough people decided that they didn't give a shit.

But apparently Trump and Cohen thought this, for some reason, would be too much during the election and therefore Cohen paid Daniels $130,000 to shut the fuck up about it so it wouldn't effect the campaign.

If it was a campaign expense, money spent expressly for the campaign, then that falls under campaign finance laws where it would be illegal.

This is still getting Capone on tax evasion. This is an out of nowhere wound that they can't seem to help picking at. No one was investigating his adventures in dick. This is just regular ass out of control Donald.


As long as we are rid of him, fine.

It occurred to me that this is his out. This is the way out where he can continue to play the victim of the mean ol' system without having to end up under the continued scrutiny that might reveal some legitimate wrong doing that extends beyond his presidency. That maybe Giuliani negotiating an end to the Mueller probe might take the form of helping Trump 'fall on his sword' (nope...nope that colloquialism is gross in context...) for the Daniels thing so that the Mueller thing never reaches him. He goes out on something like this, talks about how the system is rigged and they never found 'collusion' and retires to what he initially planned before he figured out he could win this thing.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Thu May 03, 2018 12:19 pm

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Jerzylvania wrote:
As long as we are rid of him, fine.


Will you now? What about the stench that is Pence?

Like I've said, Pence is not an evil genius as Indiana proved and him becoming President doesn't mean the Stonewall Inn spontaneously combusts and burns down.
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