Trump MAGAThread XII: A Tarriff-ic Thread!

[Valrifell]

Given that flat taxes disproportionately burden the poor it's not hard to surmise.

Then reduce the rate until it does not burden the poor. Considering raising the minimum wage would also hurt the poor, I wonder if that 'hatred' is not unique to me.

There's a fundamental difference between the ability to live off 5% of $100 and 5% of $1,000,000,000 (for example). It's inherently unfair to ask someone to forsake their livelihood and someone else to forsake their third or fourth yacht, which is why taxes should be graduated.

Also bankrupting the the government is bad.

[Petrasylvania]

So you're wealthy and hate the poor.

Yes, support for flat taxes mean you hate the poor. Thats excellent thinking Gauth. Does this mean I get to pillory you as a far right winger for your support of anti-speech things?

Still need to feel like you're winning after you got owned on claiming the Cohen raid was government infringement of attorney-client privilege?

[Northern Davincia]

Then reduce the rate until it does not burden the poor. Considering raising the minimum wage would also hurt the poor, I wonder if that 'hatred' is not unique to me.

There's a fundamental difference between the ability to live off 5% of $100 and 5% of $1,000,000,000 (for example). It's inherently unfair to ask someone to forsake their livelihood and someone else to forsake their third or fourth yacht, which is why taxes should be graduated.

Also bankrupting the the government is bad.

I don't think I can ever be convinced that bankrupting the government is anything but good.

Yes, support for flat taxes mean you hate the poor. Thats excellent thinking Gauth. Does this mean I get to pillory you as a far right winger for your support of anti-speech things?

Still need to feel like you're winning after you got owned on claiming the Cohen raid was government infringement of attorney-client privilege?

Continue with the ad-hominems, please.

[The East Marches II]

Yes, support for flat taxes mean you hate the poor. Thats excellent thinking Gauth. Does this mean I get to pillory you as a far right winger for your support of anti-speech things?

Still need to feel like you're winning after you got owned on claiming the Cohen raid was government infringement of attorney-client privilege?

Not at all, I feel the need to point your hypocrisy. Come now Gauthier, if we get to drudge up old BTFOs, I'll be here all day with your posts of claiming to be "persecuted" when I've had the better of you. At any rate, it is unfair to call Davincia anti-poor for support a flat tax.

[Valrifell]

Still need to feel like you're winning after you got owned on claiming the Cohen raid was government infringement of attorney-client privilege?

Not at all, I feel the need to point your hypocrisy. Come now Gauthier, if we get to drudge up old BTFOs, I'll be here all day with your posts of claiming to be "persecuted" when I've had the better of you. At any rate, it is unfair to call Davincia anti-poor for support a flat tax.

Would you two just get a room?

[Petrasylvania]

There's a fundamental difference between the ability to live off 5% of $100 and 5% of $1,000,000,000 (for example). It's inherently unfair to ask someone to forsake their livelihood and someone else to forsake their third or fourth yacht, which is why taxes should be graduated.

Also bankrupting the the government is bad.

I don't think I can ever be convinced that bankrupting the government is anything but good.

So not only do you think you'll become rich, you also think you'll get to hire your own private army and become a warlord in a post-apocalyptic America.

[Petrasylvania]

Not at all, I feel the need to point your hypocrisy. Come now Gauthier, if we get to drudge up old BTFOs, I'll be here all day with your posts of claiming to be "persecuted" when I've had the better of you. At any rate, it is unfair to call Davincia anti-poor for support a flat tax.

Would you two just get a room?

Not my type.

[The East Marches II]

Then reduce the rate until it does not burden the poor. Considering raising the minimum wage would also hurt the poor, I wonder if that 'hatred' is not unique to me.

There's a fundamental difference between the ability to live off 5% of $100 and 5% of $1,000,000,000 (for example). It's inherently unfair to ask someone to forsake their livelihood and someone else to forsake their third or fourth yacht, which is why taxes should be graduated.

Also bankrupting the the government is bad.

Its also stupid to have a super complex tax code. The Turks had the right idea in the 90s before they succumbed to the temptation of "fairness". In addition to the other countries in Eastern Europe who made the concept work pretty convincingly. Rather, a consumption tax on luxury good would be a better manner of "fairness" if one wanted to impose one. Hence why a Hummer is $400k there as opposed to here. Status items cost much more.

Also fucking stupid but they tax foreign currency at the rate of change for the day. Your dollar account value goes up, gotta start paying! Its pretty awful. At the least, we have a good accounting system and could make something like that work.

[Northern Davincia]

Not at all, I feel the need to point your hypocrisy. Come now Gauthier, if we get to drudge up old BTFOs, I'll be here all day with your posts of claiming to be "persecuted" when I've had the better of you. At any rate, it is unfair to call Davincia anti-poor for support a flat tax.

Would you two just get a room?

N-nonsense.

I don't think I can ever be convinced that bankrupting the government is anything but good.

So not only do you think you'll become rich, you also think you'll get to hire your own private army and become a warlord in a post-apocalyptic America.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness… it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

[Ifreann]

It's nothing to do with the burglar. The point is that the government has been chastised against writing vague laws to give themselves arbitrary power. Surely you approve? Or would you prefer a government that can write a law against littering and use it to confiscate your car?

Ideally, the law would be clarified to remove the vagueness, and then said burglar can be deported.

I'm sure Paul Ryan will get right on that.

[Seangoli]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/12/trump-tpp-trade-pact-519128

Trump has broken a lot of promises, this is the biggest promise to be broken to date. He is officially wanting to get the US to rejoin TPP.

The entire reason that the TPP was created in the first place was to curtail Chinese economic expansion in the region and in the US, so that we could strong arm them into playing fairly.


Turns out that with a potential trade war looming on the horizon with China, the TPP looks like the lesser evil. Call the TPP what you will, but the problems we are facing from China right now are a direct result of Trump torpedoing the US joining the TPP.

That said, it seems that it doesn't matter. It seems that the TPP partners wanted a clause that would prevent the US from pulling out randomly, and Trump didn't want to go for it under that contingency. I hardly blame them, given Trump's impulsiveness. Turns out that when you pull random bullshit on people, they are more hesitant to deal with you in the future as you have operated in bad faith.

[Arlenton]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/12/trump-tpp-trade-pact-519128

Trump has broken a lot of promises, this is the biggest promise to be broken to date. He is officially wanting to get the US to rejoin TPP.

Good!

[Seangoli]

Would you two just get a room?

N-nonsense.

So not only do you think you'll become rich, you also think you'll get to hire your own private army and become a warlord in a post-apocalyptic America.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness… it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

I always have to laugh when people who enjoy a comfortable life created by a stable government start bemoaning said stable government. First world problems, I guess.

[Cannot think of a name]

McConnell won't bring legislation to protect Mueller to vote.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics ... index.html

[Bombadil]

McConnell won't bring legislation to protect Mueller to vote.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics ... index.html

It's fine, as he notes Trump will never sign so kind of a waste of time to table.

[Petrasylvania]

McConnell won't bring legislation to protect Mueller to vote.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics ... index.html

"I don't think he should fire Mueller and I don't think he's going to," he said in the interview. "So this is a piece of legislation that isn't necessary in my judgment."

Gilligan Cut to every major news outlet announcing that Donnie fired Mueller by Twitter.

[Camicon]

McConnell won't bring legislation to protect Mueller to vote.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics ... index.html

It's fine, as he notes Trump will never sign so kind of a waste of time to table.

Someone with a spine could convince Trump that signing such legislation is better than vetoing it.

[NeoOasis]

McConnell won't bring legislation to protect Mueller to vote.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics ... index.html

"I don't think he should fire Mueller and I don't think he's going to," he said in the interview. "So this is a piece of legislation that isn't necessary in my judgment."

Gilligan Cut to every major news outlet announcing that Donnie fired Mueller by Twitter.

In the immortal words of any Top Gear scene right before something goes wrong.

"What could possibly go wrong?"

[Freezic Vast]

Gilligan Cut to every major news outlet announcing that Donnie fired Mueller by Twitter.

In the immortal words of any Top Gear scene right before something goes wrong.

"What could possibly go wrong?"

You sir, gained some of my respect for quoting Top Gear and I applaud you for it.

And it nothing bad or interesting happens, be prepared for a smug face when possible then.

[Vassenor]

Gilligan Cut to every major news outlet announcing that Donnie fired Mueller by Twitter.

In the immortal words of any Top Gear scene right before something goes wrong.

"What could possibly go wrong?"

Thought the line was "How hard can it be?"

[Freaneet]

Why on Earth did Trump even get elected? Hilary was the more viable option, even if she is a shambolic nepotistic witch.

[Vassenor]

Why on Earth did Trump even get elected? Hilary was the more viable option, even if she is a shambolic nepotistic witch.

From what we've seen over the last couple of days, because voter suppression.

[Freaneet]

Why on Earth did Trump even get elected? Hilary was the more viable option, even if she is a shambolic nepotistic witch.

From what we've seen over the last couple of days, because voter suppression.

What doest hat mean?

[Vassenor]

From what we've seen over the last couple of days, because voter suppression.

What doest hat mean?

In this case, use of voter ID laws to block predominantly pro-Democrat demographics from actually voting.

[The Flutterlands]

What doest hat mean?

In this case, use of voter ID laws to block predominantly pro-Democrat demographics from actually voting.

How can Judges allow that? They have to be in on the suppression.