Trump MAGAThread XII: A Tarriff-ic Thread!

[The Flutterlands]

Are we at war with Russia? Have been dropping bombs and shooting bullets at each other? No we have not. An enemy country is whatever country we are in direct war with. Cold wars don't count. The constitution is quite clear on this.

Uh, no. That's not how that works.

Yes that is how it works.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court

How can Russia be our enemy if we are not in direct hostiles with each other like that of Japan during WWII? We can't just call any country we don't like an enemy.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Uh, no. That's not how that works.

Yes that is how it works.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court

How can Russia be our enemy if we are not in direct hostiles with each other like that of Japan during WWII? We can't just call any country we don't like an enemy.

I don't give a shit about the treason nonsense and that's not what I was talking about. Russia is our enemy and you're incredibly naïve if you think otherwise.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Uh, no. That's not how that works.

Yes that is how it works.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court

How can Russia be our enemy if we are not in direct hostiles with each other like that of Japan during WWII? We can't just call any country we don't like an enemy.

Yes we can.

[The Flutterlands]

Yes that is how it works.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court

How can Russia be our enemy if we are not in direct hostiles with each other like that of Japan during WWII? We can't just call any country we don't like an enemy.

Yes we can.

Many would disagree. A country is only an enemy if we are in direct, gun to gun conflict with one another. No point in our history has it been otherwise.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Yes we can.

Many would disagree. A country is only an enemy if we are in direct, gun to gun conflict with one another. No point in our history has it been otherwise.

The Soviets were our enemies before and after WWII.
The British were our enemies even after the Revolution.
The Japanese were our enemies before WWII.
There is no other word that grasps the hostility between nations with the same goal.

[Vassenor]

Uh, no. That's not how that works.

Yes that is how it works.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court

How can Russia be our enemy if we are not in direct hostiles with each other like that of Japan during WWII? We can't just call any country we don't like an enemy.

Where does the Constitution say that the US must be in an active state of hostilities for a nation to be considered the enemy?

[The Flutterlands]

Yes that is how it works.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court

How can Russia be our enemy if we are not in direct hostiles with each other like that of Japan during WWII? We can't just call any country we don't like an enemy.

Where does the Constitution say that the US must be in an active state of hostilities for a nation to be considered the enemy?

It doesn't, but doesn't say about a lot of things, but what is an enemy? We didn't accuse people of treason during the Cold War, only espionage, which is legally different than treason.

[Vassenor]

Where does the Constitution say that the US must be in an active state of hostilities for a nation to be considered the enemy?

It doesn't, but what is an enemy? We didn't accuse people of treason during the Cold War, only espionage, which is legally different than treason.

McCarthyism notwithstanding.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Where does the Constitution say that the US must be in an active state of hostilities for a nation to be considered the enemy?

It doesn't, but doesn't say about a lot of things, but what is an enemy? We didn't accuse people of treason during the Cold War, only espionage, which is legally different than treason.

An enemy is just that. North Korea, Russia etc etc are our enemies.

[The Flutterlands]

It doesn't, but what is an enemy? We didn't accuse people of treason during the Cold War, only espionage, which is legally different than treason.

McCarthyism notwithstanding.

With a new brand of McCarthyism going on today. Skeptics of Trump Russian Collusion or down playing of Russian meddling to any thing less than an act of war like Peral Harbour or 9/11 is considered to be Russian stooges in lines of thinking.

[Alvecia]

Uh, no. That's not how that works.

Yes that is how it works.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court

How can Russia be our enemy if we are not in direct hostiles with each other like that of Japan during WWII? We can't just call any country we don't like an enemy.

I mean, all that defines is treason, not what make an enemy.

[Corrian]

I see it is another "Explain the same thing to Flutterlands for the 100th time" hour.

[The Flutterlands]

Yes that is how it works.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court

How can Russia be our enemy if we are not in direct hostiles with each other like that of Japan during WWII? We can't just call any country we don't like an enemy.

I mean, all that defines is treason, not what make an enemy.

But treason requires helping an enemy...

[Corrian]

Trump got triggered by Biden's comments this morning

[Alvecia]

I mean, all that defines is treason, not what make an enemy.

But treason requires helping an enemy...

But enemy is not defined.

[Firaxin]

Trump got triggered by Biden's comments this morning

Can I get a link to Biden's comments?

[Corrian]

Trump got triggered by Biden's comments this morning

Can I get a link to Biden's comments?

Biden says he would 'beat the hell' out of Trump if in high school

[Valrifell]

But treason requires helping an enemy...

But enemy is not defined.

Besides, Russia has done more than a few things which can rightly be interpreted as acts of war.

[Firaxin]

Can I get a link to Biden's comments?

Biden says he would 'beat the hell' out of Trump if in high school

So Trump is being Trump and Biden's being a knight in shining armor. Doesn't make either of them look good.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Trump got triggered by Biden's comments this morning

I'd watch out if I was Biden, Trump was on WWE in the past.

[Ism]

Can I get a link to Biden's comments?

Biden says he would 'beat the hell' out of Trump if in high school

Didn’t that happen back in 2016 though?

Also, since Flutters started ranting about how Russia’s not our enemy unprompted, and we have plenty of reason to doubt that he’ll change that view even if it turns out there was collusion, I’d say we should let him rant and focus on other things. It’s really just a waste of our time to try and explain the same thing over and over and over again to someone who is clearly not learning or changing.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Ya know, if Trump and Biden fought it would kinda be like the end of MGS4.

I kinda want this to happen now

[Corrian]

Didn’t that happen back in 2016 though?g.

This happened yesterday.

[Ism]

Didn’t that happen back in 2016 though?g.

This happened yesterday.

I know Trump tweeted that yesterday, but didn’t Biden make that comment back in 2016? Did he make it again or something?

[Freezic Vast]

Russia is not our enemy, and we should be over this sort of Cold War era McCarthyism mentality that Trump colluded with the Russians.