South Africa: Land Seizure, Plight of the Boers

[Kramanica]

Yes it is.

Sons don't inherit the sins of the father.......

Unless you're white.

[Painisia]

AND Ramaphosa just became the new Henrik Verwoerd

[Mujahidah]

Doesn't that undermine the Palestinian's rights to Palestine?

The Israelis won a series of defensive wars, so even according to Sharia it sucks to suck

Israel was unjustly shoved on Palestinians by a UN and British Empire that did not properly own the land they were using to set up a Jewish State. They have no right to be there. You don't get to evict people from land because it used to belong to you a long time ago. Now, I would say because of this, South Africa is wrong. But it seems from your justification of Israeli Occupation, you'd agree with the South African government's actions....

[El-Amin Caliphate]

The Israelis won a series of defensive wars, so even according to Sharia it sucks to suck

Israel was unjustly shoved on Palestinians by a UN and British Empire that did not properly own the land they were using to set up a Jewish State. They have no right to be there. You don't get to evict people from land because it used to belong to you a long time ago. Now, I would say because of this, South Africa is wrong. But it seems from your justification of Israeli Occupation, you'd agree with the South African government's actions....

And Shari'ah only applies to Muslims, and oppressors don't fight defensive wars.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yes it is.

Sons don't inherit the sins of the father.......

I was talking about Karazogi's (sorry for messing up your name) example.
And yes, you're correct, but theft is theft.

[Kramanica]

The Israelis won a series of defensive wars, so even according to Sharia it sucks to suck

Israel was unjustly shoved on Palestinians by a UN and British Empire that did not properly own the land they were using to set up a Jewish State.

What do you mean "did not properly own"? The land was a British Mandate. Before that it was conquered by the Ottoman Empire. And before that it was Roman (or Byzantine) territory. So what would constitute "properly owning" it in your eyes?

They have no right to be there.

Yes, they do. Jews had been migrating there back when it was Ottoman teritory.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Israel was unjustly shoved on Palestinians by a UN and British Empire that did not properly own the land they were using to set up a Jewish State.

What do you mean "did not properly own"? The land was a British Mandate. Before that it was conquered by the Roman Empire. And before that it was Roman (or Byzantine) territory. So what would constitute "properly owning" something in your eyes?

They have no right to be there.

Yes, they do. Jews had been migrating there back when it was Ottoman teritory.

And they were a majority in all of two cities when they were given half the territory. That's fucking absurd and never should have happened.

[Kramanica]

What do you mean "did not properly own"? The land was a British Mandate. Before that it was conquered by the Roman Empire. And before that it was Roman (or Byzantine) territory. So what would constitute "properly owning" something in your eyes?


Yes, they do. Jews had been migrating there back when it was Ottoman teritory.

And they were a majority in all of two cities when they were given half the territory. That's fucking absurd and never should have happened.

Sure, but it doesn't mean they don't have a right to be there now.

[Mujahidah]

And they were a majority in all of two cities when they were given half the territory. That's fucking absurd and never should have happened.

Sure, but it doesn't mean they don't have a right to be there now.

It doesn't mean they have a right to occupy, blockade, and oppress the native Palestinian population, either.

[Ultramarr]

Yes it is.

Doesn't that undermine the Palestinian's rights to Palestine?

I support Palestine. I don't like the terror state of Israel no. South Africa is like the US where its a country for both whites and blacks and is not an normal nation state. Palestine was Palestine like Japan is Japan or Britain is Britain

[Kramanica]

Sure, but it doesn't mean they don't have a right to be there now.

It doesn't mean they have a right to occupy, blockade, and oppress the native Palestinian population, either.

If the Palestinians want to keep attacking Israel as they've been doing for near a century then they'll reap what they sow.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It doesn't mean they have a right to occupy, blockade, and oppress the native Palestinian population, either.

If the Palestinians want to keep attacking Israel as they've been doing for near a century then they'll reap what they sow.

Ethnic cleansing ain't cool yo, doesn't matter who's doing it.

[Mujahidah]

It doesn't mean they have a right to occupy, blockade, and oppress the native Palestinian population, either.

If the Palestinians want to keep attacking Israel as they've been doing for near a century then they'll reap what they sow.

Its a natural human instinct to attack one's oppressor. Some would even say its a right. What isn't a right is ethnic cleansing, which whether they admit it or not is ultimately Israel's policy.

[Ultramarr]

It doesn't mean they have a right to occupy, blockade, and oppress the native Palestinian population, either.

If the Palestinians want to keep attacking Israel as they've been doing for near a century then they'll reap what they sow.

Israel invaded Palestine so the Palestinians have a right to fight back. I admire their courage and fighting spirt and wish we had some of their zeal and courage. The poor Palestinians live in basically an open air concentration camp. The apartheid looks really nice in comparison. The Israelis have their racist apartheid state while they push for mass immigration from the 3rd wold into other people's countries.

[Eibenland]

If the Palestinians want to keep attacking Israel as they've been doing for near a century then they'll reap what they sow.

Ethnic cleansing ain't cool yo, doesn't matter who's doing it.

If there's ethnic cleansing, Israel is failing badly at it.

[Ultramarr]

Doesn't that undermine the Palestinian's rights to Palestine?

The argument of both Israelis and Palestinians is "our ancestors owned this".

The Palestinians were living there for centuries and are still but then the Israelis invaded out of nowhere and brutally occupy the place. Its like if Ireland invaded and turned swathes of Europe into an open air concentration camp because the Celts inhabited the mainland few thousand years ago. The Jews haven't been in Palestine for thousands of years.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Ethnic cleansing ain't cool yo, doesn't matter who's doing it.

If there's ethnic cleansing, Israel is failing badly at it.

They're doing a fine job, nobody said it has to be a speedy process.

[Mujahidah]

If there's ethnic cleansing, Israel is failing badly at it.

They're doing a fine job, nobody said it has to be a speedy process.

In fact, they're doing a better job than most - they've made it easy for their lackey's to deny that their actions amount to cleansing.

[Ultramarr]

Ethnic cleansing ain't cool yo, doesn't matter who's doing it.

If there's ethnic cleansing, Israel is failing badly at it.

They are because of their racist belief that they are "God's chosen people" and some kind of master race. Its arrogant and messed up especially since they push for "diversity" and mass immigration on other countries while they run a open air concentration camp and apartheid state for the Palestinians.

[Kramanica]

If the Palestinians want to keep attacking Israel as they've been doing for near a century then they'll reap what they sow.

Ethnic cleansing ain't cool yo, doesn't matter who's doing it.

If there was actually an ethnic cleansing going on I would agree with you.

[Kramanica]

If the Palestinians want to keep attacking Israel as they've been doing for near a century then they'll reap what they sow.

Its a natural human instinct to attack one's oppressor. Some would even say its a right. What isn't a right is ethnic cleansing, which whether they admit it or not is ultimately Israel's policy.

First of all, there isn't an ethnic cleansing. Secondly, there are no troops in Palestinian territory to begin with.

[Kramanica]

If the Palestinians want to keep attacking Israel as they've been doing for near a century then they'll reap what they sow.

Israel invaded Palestine so the Palestinians have a right to fight back. I admire their courage and fighting spirt and wish we had some of their zeal and courage. The poor Palestinians live in basically an open air concentration camp. The apartheid looks really nice in comparison. The Israelis have their racist apartheid state while they push for mass immigration from the 3rd wold into other people's countries.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you kind of a neo-Nazi? As I recall you're a Holocaust denier.

[Mujahidah]

Ethnic cleansing ain't cool yo, doesn't matter who's doing it.

If there was actually an ethnic cleansing going on I would agree with you.

Pretending something doesn't exist doesn't make it false. You can shove your head in the sand but that doesn't make your denial any more correct.

But we all should really be getting back on topic. This is a thread about South Africa, not Israel.

[Ultramarr]

Israel invaded Palestine so the Palestinians have a right to fight back. I admire their courage and fighting spirt and wish we had some of their zeal and courage. The poor Palestinians live in basically an open air concentration camp. The apartheid looks really nice in comparison. The Israelis have their racist apartheid state while they push for mass immigration from the 3rd wold into other people's countries.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you kind of a neo-Nazi? As I recall you're a Holocaust denier.

No I am not a neo Nazi. I pointed out a hateful and arrogant belief in being a "master race" is wrong. Also why would neo Nazis defend brown Palestinians? As for me disagreeing with the holocaust narrative that's off topic and I wouldn't discuss it here

[Kramanica]

If there was actually an ethnic cleansing going on I would agree with you.

Pretending something doesn't exist doesn't make it false. You can shove your head in the sand but that doesn't make your denial any more correct.

But we all should really be getting back on topic. This is a thread about South Africa, not Israel.

I would love, just love, to see proof of this.

And yes, we really should. But you initiated this threadjack.