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A dirty smelly liberal and proud of it
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A clean, upright Authoritarian who will crush any dissent
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I just like clicking polls
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:06 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
There are public restrooms that the homeless can use, but that does presuppose they either can get to them, or care to get to them.

I personally like laws against pissing in the streets. 1. I don't mind a stupid drunk college kid getting hassled for pissing in the street. And 2. If the person is in the much trouble thst they are pissing in the streets, I want them to get into the social services system whether they like it or not, and be evaluated and treated, with the compulsion of arrest for non compliance.

But I am on the right, and I really do not enjoy the smell of urine.


I lean left, but pissing where other people have to smell it is not a victimless crime. If they are doing it due to a lack of other options, then I agree that it's time to get them in social services.


Clearly your showering everyday is having an effect on this move to starboard
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:43 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
I lean left, but pissing where other people have to smell it is not a victimless crime. If they are doing it due to a lack of other options, then I agree that it's time to get them in social services.


Clearly your showering everyday is having an effect on this move to starboard


BO is one thing, but piss and shit are something else. Proper handling of sewage is hugely important to stop the spread of disease, way more than daily showering or the use of deodorant.
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Postby Aboim » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:02 am

Bombadil wrote:As Orwell wrote in The Road to Wigan Pier, ‘that is what we were taught – the lower classes smell’.

Now it's science.

People who have a greater tendency to turn their nose up at the whiff of urine, sweat and other body odours are more likely to have rightwing authoritarian attitudes, research suggests.

The study also found having a greater disgust for body odours was linked, albeit to a small degree, with support for Donald Trump when he was a presidential candidate.

The team say the findings support the idea that a feeling of disgust might partly underpin social discrimination against others, with the link rooted in a primitive urge to avoid catching diseases from unfamiliar people or environments.


I can only assume this translates into personal hygiene thus we can deduce that Liberals are clearly more smelly in general and Authoritarians are clean down to the point of eating McDonalds because they don't know you're coming and have high standards.

They were also asked to rate on a scale how disgusted they were by a collection of statements linked to body odours such as “You are sitting next to a friend and notice that your feet smell strongly,” and how emphatically they agreed with 15 statements linked to rightwing authoritarianism such as “Our country needs a powerful leader, in order to destroy the radical and immoral currents prevailing in society today.”

Yet scientists with their 'studies' are no match for the raw intellectual power of combined NSG experience, so what say you, does your personal experience make a laughing stock of this study or.. do deeper subconscious instincts have far greater power over our supposed rational minds than we care to admit.

Link for those clean smelling link nazis..


The fact of liberals are being more adaptable to live in different environments, with all kinds of people, while authoritarians aren't being able to coexist in human community says nothing. All people have the right to exist and have a function in society.

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Postby Gelgisith » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:04 am

Bombadil wrote:As Orwell wrote in The Road to Wigan Pier, ‘that is what we were taught – the lower classes smell’.

Now it's science.

People who have a greater tendency to turn their nose up at the whiff of urine, sweat and other body odours are more likely to have rightwing authoritarian attitudes, research suggests.

The study also found having a greater disgust for body odours was linked, albeit to a small degree, with support for Donald Trump when he was a presidential candidate.

The team say the findings support the idea that a feeling of disgust might partly underpin social discrimination against others, with the link rooted in a primitive urge to avoid catching diseases from unfamiliar people or environments.


I can only assume this translates into personal hygiene

And that's where you go wrong. First of all, one shouldn't assume things, but more importantly, a greater tolerance of smells & body odor does not necessarily translate to less personal hygiene, for two reasons:
1: one doesn't really smell one's own body odor,
2: personal hygiene is a matter of routine.

In fact, it could be argued that it is the conservative who is more smelly, since they tend to be too pressed for time to bother with cleaning themselves. In turn, this causes them to be more exposed to people with body odor, which ultimately leads to a greater intolerance for smells & body odor.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:07 am

Gelgisith wrote:
Bombadil wrote:As Orwell wrote in The Road to Wigan Pier, ‘that is what we were taught – the lower classes smell’.

Now it's science.

People who have a greater tendency to turn their nose up at the whiff of urine, sweat and other body odours are more likely to have rightwing authoritarian attitudes, research suggests.

The study also found having a greater disgust for body odours was linked, albeit to a small degree, with support for Donald Trump when he was a presidential candidate.

The team say the findings support the idea that a feeling of disgust might partly underpin social discrimination against others, with the link rooted in a primitive urge to avoid catching diseases from unfamiliar people or environments.


I can only assume this translates into personal hygiene

And that's where you go wrong. First of all, one shouldn't assume things, but more importantly, a greater tolerance of smells & body odor does not necessarily translate to less personal hygiene, for two reasons:
1: one doesn't really smell one's own body odor,
2: personal hygiene is a matter of routine.

In fact, it could be argued that it is the conservative who is more smelly, since they tend to be too pressed for time to bother with cleaning themselves. In turn, this causes them to be more exposed to people with body odor, which ultimately leads to a greater intolerance for smells & body odor.


And where'd you get that conservatives are too pressed for time? Not really a great thing to throw in when you're giving someone else a hard time about making assumptions.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:07 am

Gelgisith wrote:
Bombadil wrote:As Orwell wrote in The Road to Wigan Pier, ‘that is what we were taught – the lower classes smell’.

Now it's science.

People who have a greater tendency to turn their nose up at the whiff of urine, sweat and other body odours are more likely to have rightwing authoritarian attitudes, research suggests.

The study also found having a greater disgust for body odours was linked, albeit to a small degree, with support for Donald Trump when he was a presidential candidate.

The team say the findings support the idea that a feeling of disgust might partly underpin social discrimination against others, with the link rooted in a primitive urge to avoid catching diseases from unfamiliar people or environments.


I can only assume this translates into personal hygiene

And that's where you go wrong. First of all, one shouldn't assume things, but more importantly, a greater tolerance of smells & body odor does not necessarily translate to less personal hygiene, for two reasons:
1: one doesn't really smell one's own body odor,
2: personal hygiene is a matter of routine.

In fact, it could be argued that it is the conservative who is more smelly, since they tend to be too pressed for time to bother with cleaning themselves. In turn, this causes them to be more exposed to people with body odor, which ultimately leads to a greater intolerance for smells & body odor.


I think my assumption is a little better than yours.. lacking toleration for others' poor personal hygiene probably does assume you maintain good hygiene yourself.

Conservative are more busy on the other hand.. busy doing what?

If it's washing then we agree.
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Postby Gelgisith » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:45 am

Bombadil wrote:
Gelgisith wrote:And that's where you go wrong. First of all, one shouldn't assume things, but more importantly, a greater tolerance of smells & body odor does not necessarily translate to less personal hygiene, for two reasons:
1: one doesn't really smell one's own body odor,
2: personal hygiene is a matter of routine.

In fact, it could be argued that it is the conservative who is more smelly, since they tend to be too pressed for time to bother with cleaning themselves. In turn, this causes them to be more exposed to people with body odor, which ultimately leads to a greater intolerance for smells & body odor.


I think my assumption is a little better than yours.. lacking toleration for others' poor personal hygiene probably does assume you maintain good hygiene yourself.

Conservative are more busy on the other hand.. busy doing what?

If it's washing then we agree.

Busy making money.
And i disagree that your assumption is any better than mine, as i just showed why your assumption is incorrect.

USS Monitor wrote:And where'd you get that conservatives are too pressed for time? Not really a great thing to throw in when you're giving someone else a hard time about making assumptions.

And why would the OP's be allowed to make assumptions, but me not? Besides, it's only meant as an example why making assumptions is bad practice.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:48 am

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Arts and Fiction is the next forum down, if you'd like to share pictures instead of having a discussion.

Maybe you should go RP there, instead of pretending to be a boat all the time here, then.

Nonsense everyone roleplays and larps here just like you pretend to be the Ayatollah purporting anarcho-primitivist views on the interview baiting people in with anime.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:49 am

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Kramanica wrote:You do a hell of a lot more LARPing here than Monitor does.

You clearly weren't around for the ebola days of peak obnoxiousness

Ebola was doing the only purpose a virus has to do spread and contaminate.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:51 am

New Emeline wrote:This thread is very odd and I like it.

Wait till you see NSG summer come then everything will get crazy.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:19 am

Gelgisith wrote:And why would the OP's be allowed to make assumptions, but me not?


You're entirely able and welcome to make such assumptions, just that you will be judged on them. Quite frankly if I match the poorest and richest states against which way they vote I'd 'assume' the Rep votes are a bunch of lazy bastards but I accept that's my assumption.
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Postby Summertimequestionswine » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:26 am

Maybe liberals are just more tolerant of smelly people and if it was up to conservatives they'd ethnically hygienically cleanse smelly people?

*edited for accuracy.
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Postby Gelgisith » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:20 am

Bombadil wrote:
Gelgisith wrote:And why would the OP's be allowed to make assumptions, but me not?

You're entirely able and welcome to make such assumptions, just that you will be judged on them.

Just as i judged you on yours, but i went a step further, and showed the weakness in your assumption.
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Postby Finswedeway » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:22 am

Summertimequestionswine wrote:Maybe liberals are just more tolerant of smelly people and if it was up to conservatives they'd ethnically hygienically cleanse smelly people?

*edited for accuracy.

But you know what happens when you make assumptions

It makes an ass out of you and umptions
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Postby XY Inc » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:10 am

Big Jim P wrote:
XY Inc wrote:Personally I think levels of personal hygiene are more to do with personal standards than political values. That said I personally am far-right and a scruff, but have a high standard of personal hygiene (i'm keep myself clean but messy and dushevlvled). And am radically libertarian rather than authoritarian (I'm an Alt-right, anarcho-capitalist, Neo-Confederate with anarcho-transhumanist leanings)


I tend to the right, but after a twelve hour shift, I smell like a dead goat that fucked a road-killed skunk. Of course, first thing I do when I get home is bathe.

Then you have a decent standard of hygiene & are on the right track. May I ask what is your occupation? Also are you a Satanist? If so that's SO FUCKING AWESOME!! I myself am a LaVayan Satanist.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:30 pm

Gelgisith wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I think my assumption is a little better than yours.. lacking toleration for others' poor personal hygiene probably does assume you maintain good hygiene yourself.

Conservative are more busy on the other hand.. busy doing what?

If it's washing then we agree.

Busy making money.
And i disagree that your assumption is any better than mine, as i just showed why your assumption is incorrect.

USS Monitor wrote:And where'd you get that conservatives are too pressed for time? Not really a great thing to throw in when you're giving someone else a hard time about making assumptions.

And why would the OP's be allowed to make assumptions, but me not? Besides, it's only meant as an example why making assumptions is bad practice.


He at least explained the evidence he was basing his on. Whether that evidence is conclusive or not is up to readers, but he at least provided an explanation. You just pulled something out of you ass with no evidence whatsoever. Get a study or something about who works more hours before you trot that out and brag about how you "showed why OP's assumption is incorrect." You didn't show anything except your own ability to post unsubstantiated crap.
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Postby De Almerland » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:33 pm

Well my most authoritarian views are based around cleanliness and hygiene...
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:36 pm

As an avowed socialist I can attest to the fact that I have a very sensitive nose and a very low tolerance for bad smells, so I tend to go a bit overkill on hygiene. :P
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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:38 pm

Benuty wrote:
New Emeline wrote:This thread is very odd and I like it.

Wait till you see NSG summer come then everything will get crazy.

I don't know why, but I get the feeling that this summer won't be as bad.

But just in case, I'll make myself a caché of stuff that I can use to dunk on summertime fools.
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Postby Kitten Combines » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:38 pm

Ransium wrote:On this site giving politicians insulting nick-names is considered a form of trolling. Unofficial warning for trolling.

Also on this same site, there are many nations and regions and posts parodying Trump and making up nicknames for him.
In the world where I am from, called the real world, Trump is a politician since he ran in the elections against that candidate.
I don't see anyone being warned for "trolling" for nick-naming the President? Or is that allowed because "freedom of speech allows anyone to insult the US President online"? But not any loser politicians who failed to enter the White House?


How do the same rules not apply to Trump? Is he uberhuman or something?

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Postby Liriena » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:38 pm

Kitten Combines wrote:
Ransium wrote:On this site giving politicians insulting nick-names is considered a form of trolling. Unofficial warning for trolling.

Also on this same site, there are many nations and regions and posts parodying Trump and making up nicknames for him.
In the world where I am from, called the real world, Trump is a politician since he ran in the elections against that candidate.
I don't see anyone being warned for "trolling" for nick-naming the President? Or is that allowed because "freedom of speech allows anyone to insult the US President online"? But not any loser politicians who failed to enter the White House?


How do the same rules not apply to Trump? Is he uberhuman or something?

Unofficial warning for hypocrisy given by me to everyone on this site who made fun of Trump without being nanny-scolded

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Postby Kanussiya » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:42 pm

I am going to be honest, the OP is not actually wrong. On the other hand however, absolutely everyone smells like horse ass wherever I go. This is due in part however to the fact that my town is full of agricultural work, which involves exorbitant amounts of horse ass. The problem is though, this is in North Carolina, which is full of a lot of rural, conservative folk. I suppose we can agree that "liberals smell bad" since you literally posted proof of them smelling bad, but it does not seem like we are really dividing the compass effectively between "people who stink" and "people who do not stink." I declare that every man and woman on planet Earth and beyond, does in fact stink; but that every person, no matter their alignment, is just in their reason for having such an off-putting emission.

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I mean, I shower. I usually do not smell bad, but I also do not strongly cling to any one party. I am not going to pin this Accusation of Odor on any type of person either, but if you stink, then you stink. Maybe this is for a different reason but you still smell bad.

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Postby Kitten Combines » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:48 pm

Hmm, maybe because Liberalism Stinks?
You totally set me up for that pun, admit it

Complete with "liberalism is about being an ass and horsing around" and "Jesus was a liberal riding an ass as if it were a horse, of course" .... and others I've yet to make out

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Postby Otira » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:58 pm

Do authoritarian liberals hate BO but huff it anyway?

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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:59 pm

Otira wrote:Do authoritarian liberals hate BO but huff it anyway?

Authoritarian liberal is an oxymoron.
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