Diversity and Multiculturalism II:Make Diversity Great Again

[Purgatio]

I actually did support my claim. You asked for a specific study comparing rates of inter-ethnic, inter-cultural violence between homogenous and diverse societies and I agreed that such a study did not exist because it was epistemologically impossible - you can't have a study where the category of violence being examined is suceptible of differing, protean interpretations.

However, that does not mean I did not back up my argument or claim. I provided a clear, logical, common-sense argument for why a society which is 95% of the same race, and the same culture, will logically also have fewer incidents of inter-cultural, inter-racial violence and strife - precisely because there are fewer cultural and racial tribes and factions within the society between whom such violence can emerge. Again, that's nothing more than a common sense deduction, which is supported by the fact that there were very few (if any) inter-ethnic and inter-cultural riots in countries like Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

In response to all that, you simply asserted that without the abovementioned study (which is impossible), the discussion is over. That is absurd conclusion to draw from that fact. It does not preclude us from reasoning out whether or not a homogenous society is or is not more likely to enjoy lower rates of inter-cultural and inter-racial strife as an inevitable logical result of its demographics. I'm not 'putting the burden of proof' on anyone. I'm simply pointing out that I made a logical argument to support my assertion that you've avoided responding to by claiming that if an impossible-to-conduct type of study does not exist, the discussion is over, to preclude having to proffer a response.

I actually did support my claim

and I agreed that such a study did not exist because it was epistemologically impossible -

No you really didn't support anything.

However, that does not mean I did not back up my argument or claim.

You really don't kow how that works.

In response to all that, you simply asserted that without the abovementioned study (which is impossible), the discussion is over

You can't back up your claim so therefore your cliam is dismissed, how is this so hard for you?

You're doing it again. I can't cite a study which is practically-impossible to conduct (which you specifically demanded, by the way) but in the absence of this study, the concept of logical reasoning still exists. I gave a logical argument for why a homogenous society will have less inter-cultural and inter-racial violence and I don't get why you can't just respond to it. How is this hard for you.

[Genivaria]

No you really didn't support anything.

You really don't kow how that works.

You can't back up your claim so therefore your cliam is dismissed, how is this so hard for you?

You're doing it again. I can't cite a study which is practically-impossible to conduct (which you specifically demanded, by the way) but in the absence of this study, the concept of logical reasoning still exists. I gave a logical argument for why a homogenous society will have less inter-cultural and inter-racial violence and I don't get why you can't just respond to it. How is this hard for you.

You're doing it again.

I'm demanding that you cite your shit, oh dear me say it ain't so.

[Genivaria]

Canada doesn't exist, you head north you just hit the North American sea/Arctic Ocean and the islands that make up Alaska.

[Purgatio]

You're doing it again. I can't cite a study which is practically-impossible to conduct (which you specifically demanded, by the way) but in the absence of this study, the concept of logical reasoning still exists. I gave a logical argument for why a homogenous society will have less inter-cultural and inter-racial violence and I don't get why you can't just respond to it. How is this hard for you.

You're doing it again.

I'm demanding that you cite your shit, oh dear me say it ain't so.

I'm learning a lot from this thread. Its actually surprising how effectively one can misconstrue and mischaracterise an opponent's arguments by simply truncating their posts and putting one's own convenient interpretive spin on specific phrases therein.

Case in point - when I said you're doing it again, 'it' was in reference to you conflating empirical reasoning and logical reasoning (which are conceptually-distinct). I made a factual assertion (homogenous societies enjoy fewer rates of inter-cultural and inter-racial violence). I recognised from the start that the employment of empirical reasoning to back it up was not possible for reasons outside my control (that the study required to either prove or disprove the assertion is impossible to conduct in practice). However, a practical failure of empirical reasoning does not preclude the use of logical reasoning - namely, the basic deductive argument that, if a country is 95% the same race and culture, pretty much by definition, the risk of inter-cultural and inter-racial violence will obviously be lower owing to a smaller quantity of disparate racial and cultural tribes between whom such violence can erupt.

This whole time, your argument has been - if you can't back up the claim empirically (which again, as I've pointed out, would require an impossible-to-conduct study), your claim has no basis. As I've pointed out repetitively and received no response, that a claim cannot be backed up empirically does not mean it cannot be backed up logically. This whole tiresome discussion has been the product of you conflating the two or pretending the two forms of reasoning are interchangeable when they are not.

[Thermodolia]

Canada doesn't exist, you head north you just hit the North American sea/Arctic Ocean and the islands that make up Alaska.

In 2068 I’m so gonna put up that sign

[San Lumen]

Sorry what is the current topic of the thread? im a bit lost.

[Thermodolia]

Sorry what is the current topic of the thread? im a bit lost.

Fuck if I know

[Abarri]

Canada is hardly a nation. And the UK and German isn’t all of Europe. France, Hungary, Poland, the low countries, the Baltic’s, Italy, the entire Iberian Peninsula, and the Nordic nation refuse to allow foreign cultures to form in their nations. If you move there you must learn the language and the culture or you don’t get to be a citizen.

Canada isnt a nation?

No, because a nation refers to "a group of people who share the same culture, language, institutions, religion, and history—usually a group of people larger than a tribe or community." Take the Kurds for example; they are a nation without a state. Most Kurds reside in Turkey, Iran, and Iraq.

https://www.infoplease.com/world/general-world-statistics/state-country-and-nation

[Greate Boston]

Canada is hardly a nation. And the UK and German isn’t all of Europe. France, Hungary, Poland, the low countries, the Baltic’s, Italy, the entire Iberian Peninsula, and the Nordic nation refuse to allow foreign cultures to form in their nations. If you move there you must learn the language and the culture or you don’t get to be a citizen.

Canada isnt a nation? France is multicultural as is Spain.

What do you mean by allowing foreign cultures to form?

Canada is specifically and decidedly not a nation-state. Like, they make a point of pointing that out iirc.

[Hammer Britannia]

Did someone mention Canada? Because I've already explained to San Lumen that it's called the Hudson Sea

[New yugoslavaia]

What happened to dark socialism?

[New yugoslavaia]

Canada doesn't exist, you head north you just hit the North American sea/Arctic Ocean and the islands that make up Alaska.

Why does that look vaguely MS paint-ish? If so, good job on whoever made it.

[Olerand]

Canada doesn't exist, you head north you just hit the North American sea/Arctic Ocean and the islands that make up Alaska.

(Image)

I can't figure out if this was made from a positive American perspective, as in, we will annex Canada, or a negative Canadian one, as in, America will annex us. The dark imagery suggests the latter, but I'm sure many Americans can look at this drawing and be pleased.

[Topoliani]

(Image)

I can't figure out if this was made from a positive American perspective, as in, we will annex Canada, or a negative Canadian one, as in, America will annex us. The dark imagery suggests the latter, but I'm sure many Americans can look at this drawing and be pleased.

Bruh, do you even fallout?

[Olerand]

I can't figure out if this was made from a positive American perspective, as in, we will annex Canada, or a negative Canadian one, as in, America will annex us. The dark imagery suggests the latter, but I'm sure many Americans can look at this drawing and be pleased.

Bruh, do you even fallout?

As I don't know what this means, I'm going to say no?

[Frievolk]

(Image)

I can't figure out if this was made from a positive American perspective, as in, we will annex Canada, or a negative Canadian one, as in, America will annex us. The dark imagery suggests the latter, but I'm sure many Americans can look at this drawing and be pleased.

It's a poorly made Fallout fanart lol.

[Baltenstein]

(Image)

I can't figure out if this was made from a positive American perspective, as in, we will annex Canada, or a negative Canadian one, as in, America will annex us. The dark imagery suggests the latter, but I'm sure many Americans can look at this drawing and be pleased.

It's from a post-apocalyptic video game setting, in which a fascist United States invades and occupies Canada before the whole world nukes itself to hell.

The main messages of the franchise are that racism is bad and that the Chinese are evil.

[Olerand]

I can't figure out if this was made from a positive American perspective, as in, we will annex Canada, or a negative Canadian one, as in, America will annex us. The dark imagery suggests the latter, but I'm sure many Americans can look at this drawing and be pleased.

It's from a post-apocalyptic video game setting, in which a fascist United States invades and occupies Canada before the whole world nukes itself to hell.

The main messages of the franchise are that racism is bad and that the Chinese are evil.

The first part of your second sentence and the last part ... OK... I don't know the game, clearly.

[The Huskar Social Union]

It's from a post-apocalyptic video game setting, in which a fascist United States invades and occupies Canada before the whole world nukes itself to hell.

The main messages of the franchise are that racism is bad and that the Chinese are evil.

The first part of your second sentence and the last part ... OK... I don't know the game, clearly.

Fallout.

[San Lumen]

The first part of your second sentence and the last part ... OK... I don't know the game, clearly.

Fallout.

sorry what is the relevance here? Im confused

[Olerand]

Fallout.

sorry what is the relevance here? Im confused

Nothing. It was a question about a picture, the conversation is long over.

[New haven america]

(Image)

I can't figure out if this was made from a positive American perspective, as in, we will annex Canada, or a negative Canadian one, as in, America will annex us. The dark imagery suggests the latter, but I'm sure many Americans can look at this drawing and be pleased.

It's from a post-apocalyptic/satire series where a fascist America took over Canada then China and the US nuked each other to hell and back, thus practically killing the world.

And as Balten said, racism is bad and the Chinese are evil.

[San Lumen]

I can't figure out if this was made from a positive American perspective, as in, we will annex Canada, or a negative Canadian one, as in, America will annex us. The dark imagery suggests the latter, but I'm sure many Americans can look at this drawing and be pleased.

It's from a post-apocalyptic/satire series where a fascist America took over Canada then China and the US nuked each other to hell and back, thus practically killing the world.

And as Balten said, racism is bad and the Chinese are evil.

Can we get back to topic please?

[New haven america]

It's from a post-apocalyptic/satire series where a fascist America took over Canada then China and the US nuked each other to hell and back, thus practically killing the world.

And as Balten said, racism is bad and the Chinese are evil.

Can we get back to topic please?

We are on topic, we're talking about racism.

[San Lumen]

Can we get back to topic please?

We are on topic, we're talking about racism.

What does Fallout have to do with the thread?