Diversity and Multiculturalism II:Make Diversity Great Again

[Korvale]

Wrong, african slaves were nothing more than biological robots to pick crops which were planted and sold by europeans, without europeans there would be no agricultural sector in the New World colonies thus the colonies would collapse.

Native Americans never did agriculture

Haiti is what happens you leave african slaves on their own.

What's this supposed to mean?

No they dont Somali nor Ethiopians look european.

Both live in East Africa.
So you just said what I said.

Native Americans never cared about America, it would just be city states controlled by them without europeans no America at all.

What do you think it means? Haiti is what happens you let african slaves control a nation, you act as though if blacks were left alone in America it still would have been as successful as it is right now. Nope Haiti and various shithole cities in our country are evidence that the african slaves would have amounted to absolutely nothing if left on their own probably would be the slaves of native americans honestly.

So now you're saying Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa.....which are overwhelmingly African, are white because the modern states were started by whites? That's retarded, that's like saying India is white, or Syria is white.

A white country is one grounded in an culture of a single ethnicity, Germany for Gemans, France for French...etc. The States have never had a centralized ethnic identity, even during the colonial period. Parts of the States were Dutch, French, Spanish, English at some point....then alot of German, Italian, and Irish immigration, African slaves, Chinese laborers and on and on. To claim we ever had a cultural core, is ignorant AF.

Those countries I listed would not exist without europeans, American state cultures are derived from west european ones making America a european country.

[Puldania]

Native Americans never did agriculture

What's this supposed to mean?

Both live in East Africa.
So you just said what I said.

Native Americans never cared about America, it would just be city states controlled by them without europeans no America at all.

What do you think it means? Haiti is what happens you let african slaves control a nation, you act as though if blacks were left alone in America it still would have been as successful as it is right now. Nope Haiti and various shithole cities in our country are evidence that the african slaves would have amounted to absolutely nothing if left on their own probably would be the slaves of native americans honestly.

You know, the reasons why Haiti ended up the way it did had more to do with how other nations dealt with the notion of a nation founded by a slave rebellion. They were forced to pay exorbitant debts, and embargoed to oblivion. What was once the trading hub of the caribbean became an impoverished land unable to pay the debts force upon it.

And these debts, by the way, weren't from borrowing money from other countries... They were payments intended to reimburse slave owners.

[Aillyria]

Actually, blacks built the colonial countries. Literally. Without slavery, europeans wouldn't have been able to sustain colonies for long.

Wrong, african slaves were nothing more than biological robots to pick crops which were planted and sold by europeans, without europeans there would be no agricultural sector in the New World colonies thus the colonies would collapse. Haiti is what happens you leave african slaves on their own.

Actually, East Africans are known to have European looking facial features, if you ignore the skin color.
Also, the US and Canada were built by enslaved people too.

No they dont Somali nor Ethiopians look european.

You don't know alot about Haitian history apparently. They had a successful revolution against France (which was one of the most powerful nations at the time), so much for superior whitety. Their administration was governing quite well after independence, what stunted their grown is the fact none of the European Empires would trade with them, and the French forced them to pay ridiculously large war reparations after independence that lasted several decades.

[Puldania]

Native Americans never did agriculture

What's this supposed to mean?

Both live in East Africa.
So you just said what I said.

Native Americans never cared about America, it would just be city states controlled by them without europeans no America at all.

What do you think it means? Haiti is what happens you let african slaves control a nation, you act as though if blacks were left alone in America it still would have been as successful as it is right now. Nope Haiti and various shithole cities in our country are evidence that the african slaves would have amounted to absolutely nothing if left on their own probably would be the slaves of native americans honestly.

So now you're saying Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa.....which are overwhelmingly African, are white because the modern states were started by whites? That's retarded, that's like saying India is white, or Syria is white.

A white country is one grounded in an culture of a single ethnicity, Germany for Gemans, France for French...etc. The States have never had a centralized ethnic identity, even during the colonial period. Parts of the States were Dutch, French, Spanish, English at some point....then alot of German, Italian, and Irish immigration, African slaves, Chinese laborers and on and on. To claim we ever had a cultural core, is ignorant AF.

Those countries I listed would not exist without europeans, American state cultures are derived from west european ones making America a european country.

I-I-I'm sorry to break it to you, b-but... Native Americans actually had complex societies and a wide variety of governments... almost like-like...
Europe, circa 1500s??

[Puldania]

Wrong, african slaves were nothing more than biological robots to pick crops which were planted and sold by europeans, without europeans there would be no agricultural sector in the New World colonies thus the colonies would collapse. Haiti is what happens you leave african slaves on their own.



No they dont Somali nor Ethiopians look european.

You don't know alot about Haitian history apparently. They had a successful revolution against France (which was one of the most powerful nations at the time), so much for superior whitety. Their administration was governing quite well after independence, what stunted their grown is the fact none of the European Empires would trade with them, and the French forced them to pay ridiculously large war reparations after independence that lasted several decades.

They didn't finish paying the debt until the mid 1900s.

[Korvale]

Native Americans never cared about America, it would just be city states controlled by them without europeans no America at all.

What do you think it means? Haiti is what happens you let african slaves control a nation, you act as though if blacks were left alone in America it still would have been as successful as it is right now. Nope Haiti and various shithole cities in our country are evidence that the african slaves would have amounted to absolutely nothing if left on their own probably would be the slaves of native americans honestly.

You know, the reasons why Haiti ended up the way it did had more to do with how other nations dealt with the notion of a nation founded by a slave rebellion. They were forced to pay exorbitant debts, and embargoed to oblivion. What was once the trading hub of the caribbean became an impoverished land unable to pay the debts force upon it.

And these debts, by the way, weren't from borrowing money from other countries... They were payments intended to reimburse slave owners.

Those are neat excuses that cant explain why the conditions in Haiti are hellish compared to say Serbia or Albania. I understand why Haiti has a poor economy but what I dont understand is why the living conditions in Haiti are well stone age essentially.

[Korvale]

Native Americans never cared about America, it would just be city states controlled by them without europeans no America at all.

What do you think it means? Haiti is what happens you let african slaves control a nation, you act as though if blacks were left alone in America it still would have been as successful as it is right now. Nope Haiti and various shithole cities in our country are evidence that the african slaves would have amounted to absolutely nothing if left on their own probably would be the slaves of native americans honestly.


Those countries I listed would not exist without europeans, American state cultures are derived from west european ones making America a european country.

I-I-I'm sorry to break it to you, b-but... Native Americans actually had complex societies and a wide variety of governments... almost like-like...
Europe, circa 1500s??

I already told you Natives had city states but America is not their country its a foreign nation created by Europeans from a far away landmass.

[Puldania]

You know, the reasons why Haiti ended up the way it did had more to do with how other nations dealt with the notion of a nation founded by a slave rebellion. They were forced to pay exorbitant debts, and embargoed to oblivion. What was once the trading hub of the caribbean became an impoverished land unable to pay the debts force upon it.

And these debts, by the way, weren't from borrowing money from other countries... They were payments intended to reimburse slave owners.

Those are neat excuses that cant explain why the conditions in Haiti are hellish compared to say Serbia or Albania. I understand why Haiti has a poor economy but what I dont understand is why the living conditions in Haiti are well stone age essentially.

Have you actually been to Haiti?
The conditions there are about on par with India, Moldova, and Kosovo.

[Puldania]

I-I-I'm sorry to break it to you, b-but... Native Americans actually had complex societies and a wide variety of governments... almost like-like...
Europe, circa 1500s??

I already told you Natives had city states but America is not their country its a foreign nation created by Europeans from a far away landmass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois

City States, Hmm?

[Irona]

I-I-I'm sorry to break it to you, b-but... Native Americans actually had complex societies and a wide variety of governments... almost like-like...
Europe, circa 1500s??

I already told you Natives had city states but America is not their country its a foreign nation created by Europeans from a far away landmass.

https://iacenter.org/haiti/embargoes.htm
This is about Haiti. Perhaps read some history before you make ahistorical points.

[Korvale]

Those are neat excuses that cant explain why the conditions in Haiti are hellish compared to say Serbia or Albania. I understand why Haiti has a poor economy but what I dont understand is why the living conditions in Haiti are well stone age essentially.

Have you actually been to Haiti?
The conditions there are about on par with India, Moldova, and Kosovo.

300 years is no excuse for these kind of living conditions at all.

[Aillyria]

You know, the reasons why Haiti ended up the way it did had more to do with how other nations dealt with the notion of a nation founded by a slave rebellion. They were forced to pay exorbitant debts, and embargoed to oblivion. What was once the trading hub of the caribbean became an impoverished land unable to pay the debts force upon it.

And these debts, by the way, weren't from borrowing money from other countries... They were payments intended to reimburse slave owners.

Those are neat excuses that cant explain why the conditions in Haiti are hellish compared to say Serbia or Albania. I understand why Haiti has a poor economy but what I dont understand is why the living conditions in Haiti are well stone age essentially.

Because they have a poor economy as a result of two centuries of European meddling after independence. Serbia and Albania were never economically isolated for simply fighting for their independence.

[San Lumen]

And what is normal rates to you? Do you have an issue with Burmese refugees and ones from other countries being settled in the US? There are many of them in cities in Upstate New York and in Minneapolis-St. Paul. Many of them work very hard and eventually becoming citizens.

Normal rates is anything that makes America 90% or 80% European at all times. It doesnt matter if african americans are a minority forever as africans are already at one billion and have an entire continent to occupy. The Mexicans have a decent slice of land to live in so they dont need to outnumber us either.

That is not possible to achieve. The country is only about 67 percent white and the rate is dropping every year. The current generation of children in school is the first majority minority generation. Nothing you can do will change the coming transition. Should places like Providence, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago pass ordinances to restore white majorities?

Should only white people be allowed in public service jobs like firefighter or police officer or in elected office.

[Aellex]

You know, the reasons why Haiti ended up the way it did had more to do with how other nations dealt with the notion of a nation founded by a slave rebellion. They were forced to pay exorbitant debts, and embargoed to oblivion. What was once the trading hub of the caribbean became an impoverished land unable to pay the debts force upon it.

And these debts, by the way, weren't from borrowing money from other countries... They were payments intended to reimburse slave owners.

They were payments intended to reimburse the displaced people they just tried to genocide.

And unsurprisingly, after they killed or forced to flee everyone that was actually running the commerce and left the empire that was bringing said commerce in, they quite logically stopped being a trade hub as anyone with a little bit of sense could have guessed.

[Korvale]

Those are neat excuses that cant explain why the conditions in Haiti are hellish compared to say Serbia or Albania. I understand why Haiti has a poor economy but what I dont understand is why the living conditions in Haiti are well stone age essentially.

Because they have a poor economy as a result of two centuries of European meddling after independence. Serbia and Albania were never economically isolated for simply fighting for their independence.

Why are poor areas of America not as filthy and uncivilized as Haiti?

[Trumptonium]

Normal rates is anything that makes America 90% or 80% European at all times. It doesnt matter if african americans are a minority forever as africans are already at one billion and have an entire continent to occupy. The Mexicans have a decent slice of land to live in so they dont need to outnumber us either.

That is not possible to achieve. The country is only about 67 percent white and the rate is dropping every year. The current generation of children in school is the first majority minority generation. Nothing you can do will change the coming transition. Should places like Providence, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago pass ordinances to restore white majorities?

Should only white people be allowed in public service jobs like firefighter or police officer or in elected office.

The point here is that

A) America's demography has been permanently altered without asking the American people.

-- The Democrats have not won the White vote since the 1964 election

B) Laws should be passed to stop it, as America's identity is disappearing.

And it's 61% white not 67% white.

[Korvale]

Normal rates is anything that makes America 90% or 80% European at all times. It doesnt matter if african americans are a minority forever as africans are already at one billion and have an entire continent to occupy. The Mexicans have a decent slice of land to live in so they dont need to outnumber us either.

That is not possible to achieve. The country is only about 67 percent white and the rate is dropping every year. The current generation of children in school is the first majority minority generation. Nothing you can do will change the coming transition. Should places like Providence, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago pass ordinances to restore white majorities?

Should only white people be allowed in public service jobs like firefighter or police officer or in elected office.

There we go, at least you admit you want us white people to be replaced.

[Mujahidah]

That is not possible to achieve. The country is only about 67 percent white and the rate is dropping every year. The current generation of children in school is the first majority minority generation. Nothing you can do will change the coming transition. Should places like Providence, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago pass ordinances to restore white majorities?

Should only white people be allowed in public service jobs like firefighter or police officer or in elected office.

The point here is that

A) America's demography has been permanently altered without asking the American people.

-- The Democrats have not won the White vote since the 1964 election

White people are not the only people who are americans.

B) Laws must be passed to stop it, as America's identity is disappearing.

Whiteness is not "America's identity."

[Trumptonium]

That is not possible to achieve. The country is only about 67 percent white and the rate is dropping every year. The current generation of children in school is the first majority minority generation. Nothing you can do will change the coming transition. Should places like Providence, Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago pass ordinances to restore white majorities?

Should only white people be allowed in public service jobs like firefighter or police officer or in elected office.

There we go, at least you admit you want us white people to be replaced.

San Lumen hasn't exactly been quiet or ulterior about being happy that he's seeing white people being replaced, he's been quite explicit about this.

[Irona]

Because they have a poor economy as a result of two centuries of European meddling after independence. Serbia and Albania were never economically isolated for simply fighting for their independence.

Why are poor areas of America not as filthy and uncivilized as Haiti?

Perhaps because they haven't been treated as horrifically?

http://faculty.webster.edu/corbetre/hai ... hypoor.htm

Read

[Korvale]

The point here is that

A) America's demography has been permanently altered without asking the American people.

-- The Democrats have not won the White vote since the 1964 election

White people are not the only people who are americans.

B) Laws must be passed to stop it, as America's identity is disappearing.

Whiteness is not "America's identity."

Oh boo hoo, America is one of the last refuges for us european descent humans. It should remain white majority at all cost, I have told you before we europeans are a minority on this planet, there are far more blacks, east asians, and middle easterners than us yet we are supposed to let these groups takeover our country's demography? Pure madness honestly.

[Irona]

There we go, at least you admit you want us white people to be replaced.

San Lumen hasn't exactly been quiet or ulterior about being happy that he's seeing white people being replaced, he's been quite explicit about this.

It's actually strange that your so worried about it

[Trumptonium]

The point here is that

A) America's demography has been permanently altered without asking the American people.

-- The Democrats have not won the White vote since the 1964 election

White people are not the only people who are americans.

They're not no, what's your point though?

The people who were there in 1964, along with their descendants, did not want any of the changes that have happened until now or are due to happen in the future.

Democrats have imported votes.

B) Laws must be passed to stop it, as America's identity is disappearing.

Whiteness is not "America's identity."

Nobody said it is. Part of America's identity is literacy though, and you seem to be missing a bit of identity on the reading front.

[Korvale]

Why are poor areas of America not as filthy and uncivilized as Haiti?

Perhaps because they haven't been treated as horrifically?

http://faculty.webster.edu/corbetre/hai ... hypoor.htm

Read

Ok lets begin with the question.

Are poor people subhuman?

[Irona]

White people are not the only people who are americans.



Whiteness is not "America's identity."

Oh boo hoo, America is one of the last refuges for us european descent humans. It should remain white majority at all cost, I have told you before we europeans are a minority on this planet, there are far more blacks, east asians, and middle easterners than us yet we are supposed to let these groups takeover our country's demography? Pure madness honestly.

You shouldn't judge people on race. What does it matter if the country has different demographics?