Diversity and Multiculturalism II:Make Diversity Great Again

[Korvale]

The point is America is a white country and so is Canada too. White is another word for European native.

According to the US Census you're wrong. "White" is not just restricted to Europeans - it includes Arabs, for instance. Honestly you should just stop. You clearly have little to no idea what you are talking about and likely have never cracked a history book outside of a high school class, which I wouldn't be surprised if you slept through anyway. Seriously, you're boring us all with your lack of facts and evidence. Its trite even for this site.

Arabs are not white people, you can easily tell an arabic person with pale skin from a european by observing the difference in facial structure also arabic men have much deeper voices than european men and black hair.

[Mujahidah]

According to the US Census you're wrong. "White" is not just restricted to Europeans - it includes Arabs, for instance. Honestly you should just stop. You clearly have little to no idea what you are talking about and likely have never cracked a history book outside of a high school class, which I wouldn't be surprised if you slept through anyway. Seriously, you're boring us all with your lack of facts and evidence. Its trite even for this site.

Arabs are not white people, you can easily tell an arabic person with pale skin from a european by observing the difference in facial structure also arabic men have much deeper voices than european men and black hair.

But where do you draw the line? Are Greeks white? Some would argue no - after all they have many Mediterranean features and olivine skin, which distinguishes them from their paler European relations. Honestly "race" as you define it is a rather ludicrous concept and inherently arbitrary.

[Aillyria]

Since when is America a "white" country? You can make that claim in European states, but America never had an ethnically defined identity.

It was made by europeans for europeans, the natives of this land had small city states so America is not their country its a foreign nation in their home territory. Both continents of the New World are extensions of Europe.

The New World nations were extensions of Europe when they were colonies, that isn't the case any more and hasn't been for a very long time. You're under some delusion that they should still be, which you'd have to explain why that is.

[Korvale]

Arabs are not white people, you can easily tell an arabic person with pale skin from a european by observing the difference in facial structure also arabic men have much deeper voices than european men and black hair.

But where do you draw the line? Are Greeks white? Some would argue no - after all they have many Mediterranean features and olivine skin, which distinguishes them from their paler European relations. Honestly "race" as you define it is a rather ludicrous concept and inherently arbitrary.

All Europeans are white people its that simple.

The New World nations were extensions of Europe when they were colonies, that isn't the case any more and hasn't been for a very long time. You're under some delusion that they should still be, which you'd have to explain why that is.

It means America is a white country.

[Mujahidah]

But where do you draw the line? Are Greeks white? Some would argue no - after all they have many Mediterranean features and olivine skin, which distinguishes them from their paler European relations. Honestly "race" as you define it is a rather ludicrous concept and inherently arbitrary.

All Europeans are white people its that simple.

So Turkish people living in that tiny bit of Turkey that is in Europe are white? Russians who live in Vladivostok are not white? You can't even geographically define it and be consistent. Besides, what defines 'Europe' itself is rather arbitrary. Sure the Urals are convenient, but there is no inherent reason why Europe isn't just part of one mega continent called "Eurasia." Its just something we've done for convenience, and so just stuck with.

[Mujahidah]

The New World nations were extensions of Europe when they were colonies, that isn't the case any more and hasn't been for a very long time. You're under some delusion that they should still be, which you'd have to explain why that is.

It means America is a white country.

No, its not. America is inherently a country not defined on ethnicity.

[Korvale]

All Europeans are white people its that simple.

So Turkish people living in that tiny bit of Turkey that is in Europe are white? Russians who live in Vladivostok are not white? You can't even geographically define it and be consistent. Besides, what defines 'Europe' itself is rather arbitrary. Sure the Urals are convenient, but there is no inherent reason why Europe isn't just part of one mega continent called "Eurasia." Its just something we've done for convenience, and so just stuck with.

Russians are white, but turks arent look at their facial structure to tell them apart. Skin color is a bad way to distinguish human breeds.

No, its not. America is inherently a country not defined on ethnicity. If you want to unironically be a NatSoc go somewhere else.

Its a white majority country making it a white country by default.

[Mujahidah]

So Turkish people living in that tiny bit of Turkey that is in Europe are white? Russians who live in Vladivostok are not white? You can't even geographically define it and be consistent. Besides, what defines 'Europe' itself is rather arbitrary. Sure the Urals are convenient, but there is no inherent reason why Europe isn't just part of one mega continent called "Eurasia." Its just something we've done for convenience, and so just stuck with.

Russians are white, but turks arent look at their facial structure to tell them apart.

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was based on geography and not facial structure.

Skin color is a bad way to distinguish human breeds.

And facial structure is? Also who the fuck calls human's "breeds?" Please tell me you don't talk like this to real people.

[Mujahidah]

No, its not. America is inherently a country not defined on ethnicity. If you want to unironically be a NatSoc go somewhere else.

Its a white majority country making it a white country by default.

Thats not how this works.

[Korvale]

Russians are white, but turks arent look at their facial structure to tell them apart.

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was based on geography and not facial structure.

Skin color is a bad way to distinguish human breeds.

And facial structure is? Also who the fuck calls human's "breeds?" Please tell me you don't talk like this to real people.

Facial structure shows common ancestry which can be used to classify human groups, the same way we can genetically distinguish other animals applies to human since we are animals. I can post you pictures of albino africans to show how stupid saying race is just skin color actually is.

[Aillyria]

But where do you draw the line? Are Greeks white? Some would argue no - after all they have many Mediterranean features and olivine skin, which distinguishes them from their paler European relations. Honestly "race" as you define it is a rather ludicrous concept and inherently arbitrary.

All Europeans are white people its that simple.

The New World nations were extensions of Europe when they were colonies, that isn't the case any more and hasn't been for a very long time. You're under some delusion that they should still be, which you'd have to explain why that is.

It means America is a white country.

No, it isn't. That whole "extension of Europe" reality ended the moment the States declared independence. You're also implying that the many generations of nonwhites here aren't American.

[Korvale]

All Europeans are white people its that simple.



It means America is a white country.

No, it isn't. That whole "extension of Europe" reality ended the moment the States declared independence. You're also implying that the many generations of nonwhites here aren't American.

Whites built America meaning its a white country, I mean yh sure non-white immigrants helped I suppose but without whites there would be no America or Canada or Australia or New Zealand or Brazil or South Africa or Nigeria or Kenya or Mexico or Argentina or Jamaica or Colombia or Tanzania or Cameroon or....

[Mujahidah]

I can post you pictures of albino africans to show how stupid saying race is just skin color actually is.

Thats not what I said. I said it was inherently arbitrary. Then you tried to say it was bounded by geography, then you brought up facial structure. You're kind of proving my point - you can't even keep what your definitions of it are straight.

[Korvale]

I can post you pictures of albino africans to show how stupid saying race is just skin color actually is.

Thats not what I said. I said it was inherently arbitrary. Then you tried to say it was bounded by geography, then you brought up facial structure. You're kind of proving my point - you can't even keep what your definitions of it are straight.

Geography is a way to contain genes in an area so its often used to determine race. All humans with that sort of facial structure I just posted are found in Africa, all humans with european facial structure are found in Europe, West Russia and the Caucaucus countries.

[Puldania]

Thats not what I said. I said it was inherently arbitrary. Then you tried to say it was bounded by geography, then you brought up facial structure. You're kind of proving my point - you can't even keep what your definitions of it are straight.

Geography is a way to contain genes in an area so its often used to determine race. All humans with that sort of facial structure I just posted are found in Africa, all humans with european facial structure are found in Europe, West Russia and the Caucaucus countries.

Have you seen Armenians?
Or Azerbaijanis?

Georgians could pass for european, but Armenians at this point are genetically arabs or turks who speak armenian because they're christian.

Azerbaijan is just straight up turkic, and muslim, and darker than arabs.

Also, Large amount of spaniards have significant amounts of Arab blood.

Hungarians came from Siberia, so did the Finns and Estonians.

TL;DR Basques are the only true Europeans!

[Kubumba Tribe]

Thats not what I said. I said it was inherently arbitrary. Then you tried to say it was bounded by geography, then you brought up facial structure. You're kind of proving my point - you can't even keep what your definitions of it are straight.

Geography is a way to contain genes in an area so its often used to determine race. All humans with that sort of facial structure I just posted are found in Africa, all humans with european facial structure are found in Europe, West Russia and the Caucaucus countries.

Actually, East Africans are known to have European looking facial features, if you ignore the skin color.
Also, the US and Canada were built by enslaved people too.

[Puldania]

No, it isn't. That whole "extension of Europe" reality ended the moment the States declared independence. You're also implying that the many generations of nonwhites here aren't American.

Whites built America meaning its a white country, I mean yh sure non-white immigrants helped I suppose but without whites there would be no America or Canada or Australia or New Zealand or Brazil or South Africa or Nigeria or Kenya or Mexico or Argentina or Jamaica or Colombia or Tanzania or Cameroon or....

Actually, blacks built the colonial countries. Literally. Without slavery, europeans wouldn't have been able to sustain colonies for long.

[Puldania]

Geography is a way to contain genes in an area so its often used to determine race. All humans with that sort of facial structure I just posted are found in Africa, all humans with european facial structure are found in Europe, West Russia and the Caucaucus countries.

Actually, East Africans are known to have European looking facial features, if you ignore the skin color.
Also, the US and Canada were built by enslaved people too.

That's primarily because East Africans have semitic genes heavily infused in them.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Hungarians came from Siberia, so did the Finns and Estonians.

4 reel???

TL;DR Basques are the only true Europeans!

Nah bruh, you gotta go back to the Neanderthals!

[Puldania]

Hungarians came from Siberia, so did the Finns and Estonians.

4 reel???

TL;DR Basques are the only true Europeans!

Nah bruh, you gotta go back to the Neanderthals!

The Hungarian Language's closest relative geographically is Estonian, followed by Finnish, then the rest of the Siberian Uralic languages.

[Korvale]

Whites built America meaning its a white country, I mean yh sure non-white immigrants helped I suppose but without whites there would be no America or Canada or Australia or New Zealand or Brazil or South Africa or Nigeria or Kenya or Mexico or Argentina or Jamaica or Colombia or Tanzania or Cameroon or....

Actually, blacks built the colonial countries. Literally. Without slavery, europeans wouldn't have been able to sustain colonies for long.

Wrong, african slaves were nothing more than biological robots to pick crops which were planted and sold by europeans, without europeans there would be no agricultural sector in the New World colonies thus the colonies would collapse. Haiti is what happens you leave african slaves on their own.

Actually, East Africans are known to have European looking facial features, if you ignore the skin color.
Also, the US and Canada were built by enslaved people too.

No they dont Somali nor Ethiopians look european.

[Aillyria]

No, it isn't. That whole "extension of Europe" reality ended the moment the States declared independence. You're also implying that the many generations of nonwhites here aren't American.

Whites built America meaning its a white country, I mean yh sure non-white immigrants helped I suppose but without whites there would be no America or Canada or Australia or New Zealand or Brazil or South Africa or Nigeria or Kenya or Mexico or Argentina or Jamaica or Colombia or Tanzania or Cameroon or....

So now you're saying Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa.....which are overwhelmingly African, are white because the modern states were started by whites? That's retarded, that's like saying India is white, or Syria is white.

A white country is one grounded in an culture of a single ethnicity, Germany for Gemans, France for French...etc. The States have never had a centralized ethnic identity, even during the colonial period. Parts of the States were Dutch, French, Spanish, English at some point....then alot of German, Italian, and Irish immigration, African slaves, Chinese laborers and on and on. To claim we ever had a cultural core, is ignorant AF.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Actually, blacks built the colonial countries. Literally. Without slavery, europeans wouldn't have been able to sustain colonies for long.

Wrong, african slaves were nothing more than biological robots to pick crops which were planted and sold by europeans, without europeans there would be no agricultural sector in the New World colonies thus the colonies would collapse.

Native Americans never did agriculture

Haiti is what happens you leave african slaves on their own.

What's this supposed to mean?

No they dont Somali nor Ethiopians look european.

Both live in East Africa.
So you just said what I said.

[Puldania]

Actually, blacks built the colonial countries. Literally. Without slavery, europeans wouldn't have been able to sustain colonies for long.

Wrong, african slaves were nothing more than biological robots to pick crops which were planted and sold by europeans, without europeans there would be no agricultural sector in the New World colonies thus the colonies would collapse. Haiti is what happens you leave african slaves on their own.

Actually, East Africans are known to have European looking facial features, if you ignore the skin color.
Also, the US and Canada were built by enslaved people too.

No they dont Somali nor Ethiopians look european.

Why Haiti was set back:

The nascent state's future was hobbled in 1825 when France forced it to pay 150 million gold francs in reparations to French ex-slaveholders—as a condition of French political recognition and to end the nation's political and economic isolation.[16] Though the amount of the reparations was reduced in 1838, Haiti was unable to finish paying off its debt until 1947. The payments left the country's government deeply impoverished, causing long-term instability.

Inca Agriculture:

Incan Agriculture was the culmination of thousands of years of farming and herding in the high-elevation Andes mountains of South America, the coastal deserts, and the rainforests of the Amazon basin. These three radically different environments were all part of the Inca Empire (1438-1533 CE) and required different technologies for agriculture. Inca agriculture was also characterized by the variety of crops grown, the lack of a market system and money, and the unique mechanisms by which the Incas organized their society. Andean civilization was "pristine" -- one of five civilizations worldwide which were indigenous and not derivative from other civilizations.[1] Most Andean crops and domestic animals were likewise pristine -- not known to other civilizations. Potatoes and quinoa were among the unique crops and camelids (llamas and alpacas), and guinea pigs were the unique domesticated animals.

The Incan civilization was predominantly agricultural. The Incas had to overcome the adversities of the Andean terrain and weather. Their adaptation of agricultural technologies that had been developed by previous cultures allowed the Incas to organize production of a diverse range of crops from the arid coast, the high, cold mountains, and the humid jungle regions, which they were then able to redistribute to villages that did not have access to the other regions. These technological achievements in agriculture would not have been possible without the workforce that was at the disposal of the Inca emperor, called the Sapa Inca, as well as the road system and extensive storage systems (qullqas) that allowed them to harvest and store food and to distribute it throughout their place of civilization.

Aztec Agriculture:

As all Mesoamerican peoples Aztec society was organized around maize agriculture. The humid environment in the Valley of Mexico with its many lakes and swamps permitted intensive agriculture. The main crops in addition to maize were beans, squashes, chilies and amaranth. Particularly important for agricultural production in the valley was the construction of chinampas on the lake, artificial islands that allowed the conversion of the shallow waters into highly fertile gardens that could be cultivated year round. Chinampas are areas of raised land, created from alternating layers of mud from the bottom of the lake, and plant matter/other vegetation. These “raised beds” were separated by narrow canals, which allowed farmers to move between them by canoe. The chinampas were extremely fertile pieces of land, and yielded, on average, seven crops annually. On the basis of current chinampa yields, it has been estimated that 1 hectare of chinampa would feed 20 individuals and 9,000 hectares of chinampas could feed 180,000.[48]

The Aztecs further intensified agricultural production by constructing systems of artificial irrigation. While most of the farming occurred outside the densely populated areas, within the cities there was another method of (small scale) farming. Each family had their own garden plot where they grew maize, fruits, herbs, medicines and other important plants. When the city of Tenochtitlan became a major urban center, water was supplied to the city through aqueducts from springs on the banks of the lake, and they organized a system that collected human waste for use as fertilizer. Through intensive agriculture the Aztecs were able to sustain a large urbanized population. The lake was also a rich source of proteins in the form of aquatic animals such as fish, amphibians, shrimp, insects and insect eggs, and water fowl. The presence of such varied sources of protein meant that there was little use for domestic animals for meat (only turkeys and dogs were kept), and scholars have calculated that there was no shortage of protein among the inhabitants of the Valley of Mexico.[49]

[Puldania]

Whites built America meaning its a white country, I mean yh sure non-white immigrants helped I suppose but without whites there would be no America or Canada or Australia or New Zealand or Brazil or South Africa or Nigeria or Kenya or Mexico or Argentina or Jamaica or Colombia or Tanzania or Cameroon or....

So now you're saying Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa.....which are overwhelmingly African, are white because the modern states were started by whites? That's retarded, that's like saying India is white, or Syria is white.

A white country is one grounded in an culture of a single ethnicity, Germany for Gemans, France for French...etc. The States have never had a centralized ethnic identity, even during the colonial period. Parts of the States were Dutch, French, Spanish, English at some point....then alot of German, Italian, and Irish immigration, African slaves, Chinese laborers and on and on. To claim we ever had a cultural core, is ignorant AF.

I can only think of a few African states that had a history of cultural sovereignty, mainly Ethiopia, Somali states, and possibly Burundi and Zimbabwe.