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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri May 11, 2018 10:51 am

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:What al-Qaeda flag?

Then don't falsely accuse people of stuff they didn't do

Show us then.

Well this wasn't too hard to find.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=437449&p=33937392#p33937392

I'll say it again: what al-Qaeda flag?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri May 11, 2018 10:52 am

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:America in regards to identity is far more oriented in "race culture" rather then national culture (France, and German are good examples) or regional culture (like ancient Greeks city state period). Hell, we have the Harlem renaissance which is was a black culture revolution. If America truly wants to get rid of racism, they'll have to destroy not only white identity, but black identity, and etc.


Yeah, this seems to be a big problem for our country right now. We need really need to reduce attachment to racial identity in favor of national identity or regional identity.

What about human identity?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri May 11, 2018 10:53 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
Yeah, this seems to be a big problem for our country right now. We need really need to reduce attachment to racial identity in favor of national identity or regional identity.

What about human identity?


Doesn't really work. I for example have nothing in common to identify with when it comes to someone like yourself.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri May 11, 2018 10:55 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What about human identity?


Doesn't really work. I for example have nothing in common to identify with when it comes to someone like yourself.

Are you not a human?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri May 11, 2018 10:59 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Doesn't really work. I for example have nothing in common to identify with when it comes to someone like yourself.

Are you not a human?


Yep, but if the only thing we have in common is "well we're the same species!" then we don't actually have anything in common and don't have any sort of shared identity. You're opposed to just about everything I believe in after all.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri May 11, 2018 11:00 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:I think it will remain. What makes you think that disappears simply because of ethnic change.

Because it's only survived this long because it has significant power in a democratic system where the majority of people are white?

America in regards to identity is far more oriented in "race culture" rather then national culture (France, and German are good examples) or regional culture (like ancient Greeks city state period). Hell, we have the Harlem renaissance which is was a black culture revolution. If America truly wants to get rid of racism, they'll have to destroy not only white identity, but black identity, and etc.

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Postby Aillyria » Fri May 11, 2018 11:03 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Are you not a human?


Yep, but if the only thing we have in common is "well we're the same species!" then we don't actually have anything in common and don't have any sort of shared identity. You're opposed to just about everything I believe in after all.

That's not really saying much, hell I don't have anything in common with northerners other than our states belonging to the same nation.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri May 11, 2018 11:09 am

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Yep, but if the only thing we have in common is "well we're the same species!" then we don't actually have anything in common and don't have any sort of shared identity. You're opposed to just about everything I believe in after all.

That's not really saying much, hell I don't have anything in common with northerners other than our states belonging to the same nation.

Why did we allow you lot back in the Union again?
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Postby Genivaria » Fri May 11, 2018 11:13 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Well this wasn't too hard to find.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=437449&p=33937392#p33937392

I'll say it again: what al-Qaeda flag?

The one that you posted.
This one.
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Here's a link to the Al-Qaeda page if you're still confused.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri May 11, 2018 11:15 am

Genivaria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'll say it again: what al-Qaeda flag?

The one that you posted.
This one.
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Here's a link to the Al-Qaeda page if you're still confused.


Those flags are different at least to my eye. Similar certainly but the writing looks different.
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Postby Aillyria » Fri May 11, 2018 11:16 am

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Aillyria wrote:That's not really saying much, hell I don't have anything in common with northerners other than our states belonging to the same nation.

Why did we allow you lot back in the Union again?

Because you wanted our soul food and sweet tea. :p
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Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
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Postby Dylar » Fri May 11, 2018 11:16 am

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Aillyria wrote:That's not really saying much, hell I don't have anything in common with northerners other than our states belonging to the same nation.

Why did we allow you lot back in the Union again?

Because they have oil
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Postby Pilarcraft » Fri May 11, 2018 11:36 am

Genivaria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'll say it again: what al-Qaeda flag?

The one that you posted.
This one.
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Here's a link to the Al-Qaeda page if you're still confused.

Bruh. That's the Flag of the Shahadatayn. You can't expect a Muslim not to respect the Shahadatayn.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri May 11, 2018 11:40 am

Genivaria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'll say it again: what al-Qaeda flag?

The one that you posted.
This one.
Image


Here's a link to the Al-Qaeda page if you're still confused.

That's not an al-Qaeda flag, that's the Islamic flag. Just because Al-Qaeda uses it doesn't mean they were the 1st to make it and use it. Just because they use doesn't mean it belongs to them only.
So again, what al-Qaeda flag are you talking about?
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Fri May 11, 2018 11:44 am

Genivaria wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I'll say it again: what al-Qaeda flag?

The one that you posted.
This one.
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Here's a link to the Al-Qaeda page if you're still confused.

So, any black flag with white Arabic on it is an al-Qaeda flag now?
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Postby Pilarcraft » Fri May 11, 2018 11:48 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The one that you posted.
This one.
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Here's a link to the Al-Qaeda page if you're still confused.

So, any black flag with white Arabic on it is an al-Qaeda flag now?
Unless it's an ISIS flag
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri May 11, 2018 12:00 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:I think it will remain. What makes you think that disappears simply because of ethnic change.

Because it's only survived this long because it has significant power in a democratic system where the majority of people are white?

While that's would significantly help out, I don't think it'd disappear. It's only existed, because racial tensions hasn't reached a point where racial identity is none existent. If theres black identity than there will always be white identity, and vice versa. While it would certainly equal the playing field we might enter Yugoslavia, so in the end the stakes would simply be raised. I'm not saying a ethnically balanced country is bad, but I a man saying to assume that it would bring discrimination to an end is silly indeed. Yugoslavia serves as a just example.

America in regards to identity is far more oriented in "race culture" rather then national culture (France, and German are good examples) or regional culture (like ancient Greeks city state period). Hell, we have the Harlem renaissance which is was a black culture revolution. If America truly wants to get rid of racism, they'll have to destroy not only white identity, but black identity, and etc.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri May 11, 2018 12:15 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The one that you posted.
This one.
Image


Here's a link to the Al-Qaeda page if you're still confused.

So, any black flag with white Arabic on it is an al-Qaeda flag now?


It is when the flag is titled that in the file name. It is one of many that is used. Our good Islamist friend who thinks nothing of having somebody whipped for homosexual intercourse or approved of wife beating and defends Salafis is certainly, innocent and well meaning. Just an innocent naive Muslim being persecuted.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri May 11, 2018 12:21 pm

Pilarcraft wrote:
Genivaria wrote:The one that you posted.
This one.
Image


Here's a link to the Al-Qaeda page if you're still confused.

Bruh. That's the Flag of the Shahadatayn. You can't expect a Muslim not to respect the Shahadatayn.


It is commonly used among them as a battle flag, I thought the prophet used a plain black one, not a inscribed one anyway.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri May 11, 2018 12:22 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:So, any black flag with white Arabic on it is an al-Qaeda flag now?


It is when the flag is titled that in the file name. It is one of many that is used. Our good Islamist friend who thinks nothing of having somebody whipped for homosexual intercourse or approved of wife beating and defends Salafis is certainly, innocent and well meaning.

When have I have defended Salafis and wife beating?
The East Marches II wrote:Just an innocent naive Muslim being persecuted.

When did I do any of this or say I was persecuted?
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Postby Pilarcraft » Fri May 11, 2018 12:22 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:Bruh. That's the Flag of the Shahadatayn. You can't expect a Muslim not to respect the Shahadatayn.


It is commonly used among them as a battle flag, I thought the prophet used a plain black one, not a inscribed one anyway.

The Shahadatayn is the stuff written on the black flag up there. "لا اله الا الله و محمد رسول الله" (There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's prophet). And that's like... Islam summarized in a couple sentences. You can't expect a Muslim not to respect that flag.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri May 11, 2018 12:23 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:Bruh. That's the Flag of the Shahadatayn. You can't expect a Muslim not to respect the Shahadatayn.


It is commonly used among them as a battle flag, I thought the prophet used a plain black one, not a inscribed one anyway.

That's the debate. The Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) either used a plain black flag or used the black flag with the shahadatayn.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri May 11, 2018 12:24 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:When have I have defended Salafis and wife beating?

I have literally seen you defend wife-beating on here smgdh
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri May 11, 2018 12:24 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:When have I have defended Salafis and wife beating?

I have literally seen you defend wife-beating on here smgdh

When?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Pilarcraft » Fri May 11, 2018 12:25 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
It is commonly used among them as a battle flag, I thought the prophet used a plain black one, not a inscribed one anyway.

That's the debate. The Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) either used a plain black flag or used the black flag with the shahadatayn.

Probably a plain black, given the fact Arabic didn't have a unified writing system at that point, so the different Muslims would be confused at the text on the pesky flag
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