Diversity and Multiculturalism II:Make Diversity Great Again

[Kubumba Tribe]

Yeah, I see it now.
See my post above yours.

The answer you want is in what I typed

I know that already, that's what I said. When I typed "see my post above yours", I was talking about this:

So there are consequences, therefore the past does affect the present.

Oh wait, I see it now.
Yeah, Emeline's right. NR, you just refuted your claim that "the past doesn't affect the present".

[Kubumba Tribe]

Still doesn't make racism not a problem.

I didn't say it wasn't a problem just that it's not as widespread and happens rarely that's not me saying it doesn't happen also I don't see racism everywhere either

"I don't see it" is not evidence.

[Northland Republic]

Now on to the part of NR's post that I put in bold:

People's personal choice has no effect on you or your life because you can't control them.

Scenario: Person A has a personal choice to harm Person B. Will the personal choice of Person A have an effect on the life of Person B?

If someone harms someone else then it does effect them what you asked about someone ignoring an illness doesn't harm anyone else but the person who ignored the illness.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Now on to the part of NR's post that I put in bold:

Scenario: Person A has a personal choice to harm Person B. Will the personal choice of Person A have an effect on the life of Person B?

If someone harms someone else then it does effect them

Yet again, you refuted your other claim of "People's personal choice has no effect on you or your life because you can't control them"

what you asked about someone ignoring an illness doesn't harm anyone else but the person who ignored the illness.

You gave me your answer, and you've refuted yourself. That's done for.

[Northland Republic]

I didn't say it wasn't a problem just that it's not as widespread and happens rarely that's not me saying it doesn't happen also I don't see racism everywhere either

"I don't see it" is not evidence.

What I mean is I don't go out looking for racism. Ever heard of a "self fulfilling prophecy" because that's what happens when you "see" racism everywhere or when you think things happen all the time they start happening all the time

[Kramanica]

So there are consequences, therefore the past does affect the present.

Like how the racist policies that created suburbs still affect people today.

And what are these policies that are apparently preventing black people from moving into suburbs?

[San Lumen]

Like how the racist policies that created suburbs still affect people today.

And what are these policies that are apparently preventing black people from moving into suburbs?

ever hear of something called redlining?

as a matter of fact watch this video. It explains it better than I can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETR9qrVS17g

[Kubumba Tribe]

Also, this:

what you asked about someone ignoring an illness doesn't harm anyone else but the person who ignored the illness.

Isn't true. Contagious diseases affect other people, so ignoring a contagious disease will, in fact, harm others. And even if the disease isn't contagious, it will affect people emotionally, for example, cancer. It's not contagious, but it has emotional effects on the cancer patient's family and friends.

[Kubumba Tribe]

"I don't see it" is not evidence.

What I mean is I don't go out looking for racism. Ever heard of a "self fulfilling prophecy" because that's what happens when you "see" racism everywhere or when you think things happen all the time they start happening all the time

Ok, well no one's done that in this thread.

[Kubumba Tribe]

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... the-worst/
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/busi ... finds.html
https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/housin ... -us-report
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brown-ce ... n-schools/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... OD4xbU2nov
http://www.newsweek.com/2018/03/30/scho ... 55256.html

[Kramanica]

And what are these policies that are apparently preventing black people from moving into suburbs?

ever hear of something called redlining?

as a matter of fact watch this video. It explains it better than I can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETR9qrVS17g

Yeah, and we have the Fair Housing Act and the Community Reinvestment Act now. So what's your point?

Explain to me how suburbs are racist. So far as I can tell suburbs are the best way to get away from these crime-infested shitholes we call cities without having to move way out to the country.

[Northland Republic]

If someone harms someone else then it does effect them

Yet again, you refuted your other claim of "People's personal choice has no effect on you or your life because you can't control them"

what you asked about someone ignoring an illness doesn't harm anyone else but the person who ignored the illness.

You gave me your answer, and you've refuted yourself. That's done for.

how so two different choices each with it's own outcome other people's personal choice doesn't have an effect on you unless they make a choice to do something to you directly which hardly ever happens. Only a nihilist/sociopath would make choices like that for no reason because every choice to harm someone has a reason.

[Northland Republic]

Also, this:

what you asked about someone ignoring an illness doesn't harm anyone else but the person who ignored the illness.

Isn't true. Contagious diseases affect other people, so ignoring a contagious disease will, in fact, harm others. And even if the disease isn't contagious, it will affect people emotionally, for example, cancer. It's not contagious, but it has emotional effects on the cancer patient's family and friends.

What about vaccinations, if they work then you should be safe right.

[San Lumen]

ever hear of something called redlining?

as a matter of fact watch this video. It explains it better than I can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETR9qrVS17g

Yeah, as have the Fair Housing Act and the Community Reinvestment Act now. So what's your point?

Explain to me how suburbs are racist. So far as I can tell suburbs are the best way to get away from these crime invested shitholes we call cities without having to move way out to the country.

Doesnt fix decades of racist policy and segregation. Many suburbs in metro area of my city are overwhelming white still and it has not changed since the 1950s.

Watch the video and you'll see.

[Kramanica]

Yeah, as have the Fair Housing Act and the Community Reinvestment Act now. So what's your point?

Explain to me how suburbs are racist. So far as I can tell suburbs are the best way to get away from these crime invested shitholes we call cities without having to move way out to the country.

Doesnt fix decades of racist policy and segregation. Many suburbs in metro area of my city are overwhelming white still and it has not changed since the 1950s.

Watch the video and you'll see.

How does a surbub being mostly white make it racist?

Are cities like Detroit racist because they're mostly black?

[Thanatttynia]

ever hear of something called redlining?

as a matter of fact watch this video. It explains it better than I can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETR9qrVS17g

Yeah, and we have the Fair Housing Act and the Community Reinvestment Act now. So what's your point?

Explain to me how suburbs are racist. So far as I can tell suburbs are the best way to get away from these crime invested shitholes we call cities without having to move way out to the country.

Suburbs aren't racist; no one's claiming that. A suburb is not a human ergo cannot be racist - suburbs in the US were, however, established based on racist principles.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Yet again, you refuted your other claim of "People's personal choice has no effect on you or your life because you can't control them"

You gave me your answer, and you've refuted yourself. That's done for.

how so two different choices each with it's own outcome other people's personal choice doesn't have an effect on you unless they make a choice to do something to you directly which hardly ever happens. Only a nihilist/sociopath would make choices like that for no reason because every choice to harm someone has a reason.

You really need to use punctuation. Anyway, you yourself said that:

Now on to the part of NR's post that I put in bold:

Scenario: Person A has a personal choice to harm Person B. Will the personal choice of Person A have an effect on the life of Person B?

If someone harms someone else then it does effect them

So you refuted your claim that "People's personal choice has no effect on you or your life because you can't control them" Also, "two different choices each with it's own outcome other people's personal choice doesn't have an effect on you unless they make a choice to do something to you directly which hardly ever happens." Is false. You know how many times people get robbed, killed, kidnapped, etc.?

[San Lumen]

Doesnt fix decades of racist policy and segregation. Many suburbs in metro area of my city are overwhelming white still and it has not changed since the 1950s.

Watch the video and you'll see.

How does a surbub being mostly white make it racist?

Are cities like Detroit racist because they're mostly black?

watch the video I liked too.

[Northland Republic]

Yeah, as have the Fair Housing Act and the Community Reinvestment Act now. So what's your point?

Explain to me how suburbs are racist. So far as I can tell suburbs are the best way to get away from these crime invested shitholes we call cities without having to move way out to the country.

Doesnt fix decades of racist policy and segregation. Many suburbs in metro area of my city are overwhelming white still and it has not changed since the 1950s.

Watch the video and you'll see.

That's not really a problem do those suburbs hang signs that read, "No Ni**ers or Spics Allows"

[Kubumba Tribe]

Also, this:

Isn't true. Contagious diseases affect other people, so ignoring a contagious disease will, in fact, harm others. And even if the disease isn't contagious, it will affect people emotionally, for example, cancer. It's not contagious, but it has emotional effects on the cancer patient's family and friends.

What about vaccinations, if they work then you should be safe right.

True.

[Kramanica]

How does a surbub being mostly white make it racist?

Are cities like Detroit racist because they're mostly black?

watch the video I liked too.

Yeah, I don't really wanna watch some video from College Humor. Especially not from Adam Ruins Humor.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Good night y'all.

[Kramanica]

Yeah, and we have the Fair Housing Act and the Community Reinvestment Act now. So what's your point?

Explain to me how suburbs are racist. So far as I can tell suburbs are the best way to get away from these crime invested shitholes we call cities without having to move way out to the country.

Suburbs aren't racist; no one's claiming that. A suburb is not a human ergo cannot be racist - suburbs in the US were, however, established based on racist principles.

And what were these principles?

[Thanatttynia]

Doesnt fix decades of racist policy and segregation. Many suburbs in metro area of my city are overwhelming white still and it has not changed since the 1950s.

Watch the video and you'll see.

That's not really a problem do those suburbs hang signs that read, "No Ni**ers or Spics Allows"

Do you genuinely believe that something has to be that overt to be racist?

[Northland Republic]

how so two different choices each with it's own outcome other people's personal choice doesn't have an effect on you unless they make a choice to do something to you directly which hardly ever happens. Only a nihilist/sociopath would make choices like that for no reason because every choice to harm someone has a reason.

You really need to use punctuation. Anyway, you yourself said that:

If someone harms someone else then it does effect them

So you refuted your claim that "People's personal choice has no effect on you or your life because you can't control them" Also, "two different choices each with it's own outcome other people's personal choice doesn't have an effect on you unless they make a choice to do something to you directly which hardly ever happens." Is false. You know how many times people get robbed, killed, kidnapped, etc.?

You do realize how many people live in the US matters right if you look at the population as a whole and then look at the crime rate then you will see that it's a small portion of the US population while I wish that people would have respect for other people and not committee crimes against others, but that's not how the world works.