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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:21 am

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They're a sign of lack of integration.

You don't support integration, you support assimilation.


one and the same
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:23 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:You don't support integration, you support assimilation.


one and the same

Eh, not definitionally.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:25 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:You don't support integration, you support assimilation.


one and the same

You support assimilation, like was done to Native American and Aboriginal children. All cultural heritage and language suppressed if not eradicated and erased.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:28 am

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Psh.
One of my namesakes created one of the largest empires of antiquity. What have you got going for you?

Well, my 1st name is Biblical Hebrew for "Gift of God" and my last name is Arabic for "trustworthy", and my last name was also a kunya (nickname) for the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) ;)
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:28 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
one and the same

You support assimilation, like was done to Native American and Aboriginal children. All cultural heritage and language suppressed if not eradicated and erased.

Whereas in integration, cultures blend together and learn from one another.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:29 am

Alvecia wrote:
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one and the same

Eh, not definitionally.

Pendantry man, away!


functionally identical

Petrasylvania wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
one and the same

You support assimilation, like was done to Native American and Aboriginal children. All cultural heritage and language suppressed if not eradicated and erased.


were it not for my views of assimilation among french colonial rulers and american/australian administrations several centuries ago, we would have yet another minority for altruists like you to waste money on

the only shame is that this process did not occur in africa as well
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:46 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Psh.
One of my namesakes created one of the largest empires of antiquity. What have you got going for you?

Well, my 1st name is Biblical Hebrew for "Gift of God" and my last name is Arabic for "trustworthy", and my last name was also a kunya (nickname) for the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) ;)
Yah, son, don't trah me! :lol:

Prophets are a dime a dozen. The "defender of men" has got it where it really counts :P
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:47 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Eh, not definitionally.

Pendantry man, away!


functionally identical

Actually, I'd disagree.
Assimilation is more like absorbtion.
Intergration is more like combination.

In the former, the absorbed culture is eventually dissolved. In the latter it becomes a part of the existing one.
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Postby Korvale » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:42 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:You support assimilation, like was done to Native American and Aboriginal children. All cultural heritage and language suppressed if not eradicated and erased.

Whereas in integration, cultures blend together and learn from one another.


How can cultures learn from another? Islam is incompatible with the culture of the West.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:45 am

Korvale wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Whereas in integration, cultures blend together and learn from one another.


How can cultures learn from another?

Do you not know history?
Korvale wrote:Islam is incompatible with the culture of the West.

1: False
2: Why is Islamic culture brought up in this thread all the time? It's not the only culture in the world!
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:47 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
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How can cultures learn from another?

Do you not know history?


How many million low-skilled Europeans and Americans did Japan import to 'learn' from them under Meiji?

What are we classifying as 'learn'? Dance?
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:48 am

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Not that odd. The minorities are easy to harass/deport if they can't shoot back.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:49 am

Trumptonium1 wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Do you not know history?


How many million low-skilled Europeans and Americans did Japan import to 'learn' from them under Meiji?

Considerin that humans aren't inanimate objects to be 'imported', 0. If you're talking about 'immigrated', idk, I don't know Japanese history.
Trumptonium1 wrote:What are we classifying as 'learn'? Dance?

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Postby Korvale » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:52 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
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How can cultures learn from another?

Do you not know history?
Korvale wrote:Islam is incompatible with the culture of the West.

1: False
2: Why is Islamic culture brought up in this thread all the time? It's not the only culture in the world!


The West is Progressive meaning full of pragmatic hedonist while Islamist are more conservative culturally they even beat women who cheat on their men unlike the West.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:53 am

Korvale wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Do you not know history?

1: False
2: Why is Islamic culture brought up in this thread all the time? It's not the only culture in the world!


The West is Progressive meaning full of pragmatic hedonist while Islamist are more conservative culturally they even beat women who cheat on their men unlike the West.

Well, under Shari'ah, the punishment for adultery is 100 lashes, regardless of the sex of the criminal.
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:55 am

Korvale wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Do you not know history?

1: False
2: Why is Islamic culture brought up in this thread all the time? It's not the only culture in the world!


The West is Progressive meaning full of pragmatic hedonist while Islamist are more conservative culturally they even beat women who cheat on their men unlike the West.


Most of the issues experienced in the Middle East are brought about by circumstance and older tribal traditions, not Islam. If the Middle East were Christian they'd have the same problems.
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Postby Korvale » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:56 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
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The West is Progressive meaning full of pragmatic hedonist while Islamist are more conservative culturally they even beat women who cheat on their men unlike the West.

Well, under Shari'ah, the punishment for adultery is 100 lashes, regardless of the sex of the criminal.


Yes and the west values human relationships being shallow rushs of dopamine so this is not compatible with it. Im always confused why liberals support muslims since they seem to be like conservatives on steroids.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:57 am

Korvale wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Well, under Shari'ah, the punishment for adultery is 100 lashes, regardless of the sex of the criminal.


Yes and the west values human relationships being shallow rushs of dopamine so this is not compatible with it. Im always confused why liberals support muslims since they seem to be like conservatives on steroids.

No, we aren't. Muslims are Muslims.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:57 am

Mujahidah wrote:
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The West is Progressive meaning full of pragmatic hedonist while Islamist are more conservative culturally they even beat women who cheat on their men unlike the West.


Most of the issues experienced in the Middle East are brought about by circumstance and older tribal traditions, not Islam. If the Middle East were Christian they'd have the same problems.

Yeah
Wasn’t the Ottoman Empire like, liberal and chill compared to the west?
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:57 am

Mujahidah wrote:
Korvale wrote:
The West is Progressive meaning full of pragmatic hedonist while Islamist are more conservative culturally they even beat women who cheat on their men unlike the West.


Most of the issues experienced in the Middle East are brought about by circumstance and older tribal traditions, not Islam. If the Middle East were Christian they'd have the same problems.

Personally I wouldn't distinguish between Islam and "older tribal traditions" tbh.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:58 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Most of the issues experienced in the Middle East are brought about by circumstance and older tribal traditions, not Islam. If the Middle East were Christian they'd have the same problems.

Yeah
Wasn’t the Ottoman Empire like, liberal and chill compared to the west?

Eh, depends on how you look at it. For most of its lifetime, the Ottoman Empire remained on al-Haqq.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:59 am

Alvecia wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Most of the issues experienced in the Middle East are brought about by circumstance and older tribal traditions, not Islam. If the Middle East were Christian they'd have the same problems.

Personally I wouldn't distinguish between Islam and "older tribal traditions" tbh.

Un-Islamic traditions are un-Islamic.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:00 am

Alvecia wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Most of the issues experienced in the Middle East are brought about by circumstance and older tribal traditions, not Islam. If the Middle East were Christian they'd have the same problems.

Personally I wouldn't distinguish between Islam and "older tribal traditions" tbh.

If there was a group of Christians that sacrificed humans to god would you say that’s just Christianity
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Postby Kramanica » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:00 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Korvale wrote:
The West is Progressive meaning full of pragmatic hedonist while Islamist are more conservative culturally they even beat women who cheat on their men unlike the West.

Well, under Shari'ah, the punishment for adultery is 100 lashes, regardless of the sex of the criminal.

And this is why your beliefs will forever be incompatible with the West.
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Postby Mujahidah » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:00 am

Alvecia wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Most of the issues experienced in the Middle East are brought about by circumstance and older tribal traditions, not Islam. If the Middle East were Christian they'd have the same problems.

Personally I wouldn't distinguish between Islam and "older tribal traditions" tbh.


Considering Islam sought to supplant a lot of those older tribal traditions, which themselves were unislamic, you'd be wrong to not to.
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