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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:01 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Yeah.

I like that name. Wouldn't want it though, I'm happy with mine.

Same. I'm proud of my Hebrew 1st name and Arabic middle and last names :lol:
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:03 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
New Emeline wrote:I like that name. Wouldn't want it though, I'm happy with mine.

Same. I'm proud of my Hebrew 1st name and Arabic middle and last names :lol:

French French and German, respectively.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:03 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Trumptonium said that only English names should be used in the US because that apparently reflects our culture. Thing is, so do Spanish, Irish, Scot, German, French, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese, Polish, Italian, and the many African and Native American names. They reflect American culture also.

Dirty foreign influences tainted proud Anglo-Saxon heritage. *nod*
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:05 pm

What actually is this nonsense about acceptable names.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:06 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:What actually is this nonsense about acceptable names.

Trumptonium said only Anglo-Saxon names are allowed in the United States.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:07 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:What actually is this nonsense about acceptable names.

Don't ask me.

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Postby Geneviev » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:13 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Trumptonium said that only English names should be used in the US because that apparently reflects our culture. Thing is, so do Spanish, Irish, Scot, German, French, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese, Polish, Italian, and the many African and Native American names. They reflect American culture also.

Yes. My name is fairly reflective of Germans in America (heh) so what would be wrong with that? Names are supposed to be diverse. Shakiba is my favourite name.
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Postby Ra-Harakhte » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:13 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
New Emeline wrote:uhhhhhh what names are actually british
i dont know a lot of name origins

Well, technically, purely British names would be Celtic, not Germanic.


Nah, the Celts are continental invaders! We need to find the names of the guys who build Stonehenge.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:14 pm

Who cares where someone's name is from, its fucking stupid, its just a damn name.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:15 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Who cares where someone's name is from, its fucking stupid, its just a damn name.

Exactly.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:17 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Who cares where someone's name is from, its fucking stupid, its just a damn name.

Agreed but according to Trumptonium it is somehow a threat to his countries culture to have foreign names. There are plenty of streets and neighborhoods in major cities with foreign names. Flushing, Brooklyn and Harlem are all Dutch for example.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:17 pm

Ra-Harakhte wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Well, technically, purely British names would be Celtic, not Germanic.


Nah, the Celts are continental invaders! We need to find the names of the guys who build Stonehenge.

Nah, een better: go back to the Neanderthals' names!
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:18 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Ra-Harakhte wrote:
Nah, the Celts are continental invaders! We need to find the names of the guys who build Stonehenge.

Nah, een better: go back to the Neanderthals' names!

From henceforth we are all Unga

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Postby Geneviev » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:19 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Nah, een better: go back to the Neanderthals' names!

From henceforth we are all Unga

Actually, I would prefer for my name to be Ugga-Bugga. More American.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:20 pm

Geneviev wrote:
New Emeline wrote:From henceforth we are all Unga

Actually, I would prefer for my name to be Ugga-Bugga. More American.

True.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:20 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Nah, een better: go back to the Neanderthals' names!

From henceforth we are all Unga

You can't speak English, it's offensive to Neanderthals.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:21 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Nah, een better: go back to the Neanderthals' names!

From henceforth we are all Unga

Unga. Unga Bunga.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:24 pm

Ooooo! This just gave me a good idea on the topic of diversty and multiculturalism!
What if the other human species still existed? Like the Dravidians, the Neanderthals, Homo Sapiens and other human species all existed to this day?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Geneviev » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:26 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Actually, I would prefer for my name to be Ugga-Bugga. More American.

True.

Yes. Perhaps now we are all American.

Currently ignoring the fact that I'm not American, and am only living here. Doesn't matter though, does it? As long as my name is Ugga-Bugga.

Why do some Americans really think they're above everyone else? They do realise that all of them are immigrants, right? Oh, wait, no they don't. Why not? Because America First! When they meet me for the first time, they ask if I'm British. I say no, and they immediately think I'm lying. Why? Because they don't seem to acknowledge the fact that there are more than two countries in the world. Not all Americans are like this, but apparently enough to make sure Islamophobia, racism, everything against diversity seem legitimate.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:28 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Compare all anti-mass immigration sentiment to EDL. Classy. You forgot to call me sexist and Hitler at the end there. Or maybe saving those buttons for later.

Such dramatic performance, can easily nab a BAFTA there.

Also...

>Complains about foreign influence ruining everything
>Has photo of American actor as nation flag


The actor is British.

Or do you believe in assimilation?

Oh well, can never expect your arguments to stay consistent I guess.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:29 pm

Geneviev wrote:
New Emeline wrote:True.

Yes. Perhaps now we are all American.

Currently ignoring the fact that I'm not American, and am only living here. Doesn't matter though, does it? As long as my name is Ugga-Bugga.

Why do some Americans really think they're above everyone else? They do realise that all of them are immigrants, right? Oh, wait, no they don't. Why not? Because America First! When they meet me for the first time, they ask if I'm British. I say no, and they immediately think I'm lying. Why? Because they don't seem to acknowledge the fact that there are more than two countries in the world. Not all Americans are like this, but apparently enough to make sure Islamophobia, racism, everything against diversity seem legitimate.


That shouldnt be a spoiler. I assure you thats a not a large number. For every act of hate someone rises against it.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:30 pm

Geneviev wrote:
New Emeline wrote:True.

Yes. Perhaps now we are all American.

Currently ignoring the fact that I'm not American, and am only living here. Doesn't matter though, does it? As long as my name is Ugga-Bugga.

Why do some Americans really think they're above everyone else? They do realise that all of them are immigrants, right? Oh, wait, no they don't. Why not? Because America First! When they meet me for the first time, they ask if I'm British. I say no, and they immediately think I'm lying. Why? Because they don't seem to acknowledge the fact that there are more than two countries in the world. Not all Americans are like this, but apparently enough to make sure Islamophobia, racism, everything against diversity seem legitimate.

I agree. This American exeptionalism bs is messed up. That's probs why some people go on rants every time they hear a foreign language.
American exceptionalism is also the partial reason why many countries the US was involved in militarily are now in despair.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:30 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Such dramatic performance, can easily nab a BAFTA there.

Also...

>Complains about foreign influence ruining everything
>Has photo of American actor as nation flag


The actor is British.

Or do you believe in assimilation?

Oh well, can never expect your arguments to stay consistent I guess.

I really like to hear why you think only English names should be allowed in America or the UK .

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:31 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Such dramatic performance, can easily nab a BAFTA there.

Also...

>Complains about foreign influence ruining everything
>Has photo of American actor as nation flag


The actor is British.

Or do you believe in assimilation?

Oh well, can never expect your arguments to stay consistent I guess.

You mean cultural eradication or whitebreading. Like was done to Native Americans and Aboriginals.
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Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:31 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Such dramatic performance, can easily nab a BAFTA there.

Also...

>Complains about foreign influence ruining everything
>Has photo of American actor as nation flag


The actor is British.

Or do you believe in assimilation?

Oh well, can never expect your arguments to stay consistent I guess.

Changing one's citizenship =/= assimilation
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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