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Postby Trumptonium1 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:38 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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Are you comparing all immigrants who don't speak English to tourists?

Perhaps we need to deport them for effectively overstaying visas.

In fact, good comparison Gauth, I agree with you for once. Long-term tourists.

So deport legal immigrants because feefees. Classy. Are you EDL or BFP by any chance?


Compare all anti-mass immigration sentiment to EDL. Classy. You forgot to call me sexist and Hitler at the end there. Or maybe saving those buttons for later.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:38 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Been to several actually.

And did you learn to fluently speak their language before going there or kept mute and used sign language?

Yes to the ones where I went on vacation. To the others well one I was deployed to, and the other was a mission trip
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:39 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:No. It’s just that I think when you are in a group of people and part of the group talks in a foreign language that it’s rude. I have nothing against random people talking in a foreign language, though I’d rather them to at least try to speak the dominant language of that nation. Just like I would if I went to their nation.


What if Person A and Person B are just sitting on a park bench and noone else is involved in the conversation, but they're "in public?"

No, that wouldn’t be rude at all.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:39 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:So deport legal immigrants because feefees. Classy. Are you EDL or BFP by any chance?


No trumptonium probably thinks they're too "cucked" cause they don't want outright genocide.


Oh dear, imagine being this triggered

"ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH ME WANTS GENOCIDE"

Congratulations, you've officially reached a trough in your capability to form a coherent argument.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:39 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
No trumptonium probably thinks they're too "cucked" cause they don't want outright genocide.


Oh dear, imagine being this triggered

"ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH ME WANTS GENOCIDE"

Imagine thinking triggered is an argument

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Postby Mujahidah » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:40 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
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Says the one suggesting people who disagree with him shouldn't be allowed to make personal decisions.


oh no, that's not what I said

merely people with the logic of a child, since they don't really fall under adulthood in any way other than physical


So you want to take away your own right to vote? I mean sure go ahead. Stay home on election day. Rational people will appreciate your sacrifice :)

Mujahidah wrote:I literally cannot imagine being that inconsistent. I actually have principles and don't just hate dark people lol


well listen, you're america's problem, not mine


I'm not a problem, but yes I am very much American.

america can enjoy one extra terrorist sympathiser


Nice ad hominem. At least be factually correct. I don't support terrorism. Terrorism is morally reprehensible.

and one extra kubumba wife flogger,


Do you even know what you're saying anymore? I actually argued with him over that and said beating your spouse in any way was definitively wrong. If you're going to hurl shit at me at least say things that are actually true.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:41 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Oh dear, imagine being this triggered

"ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH ME WANTS GENOCIDE"

Imagine thinking triggered is an argument


argument of what?

I don't have the need or the will to argue with someone who accuses anyone with a differing opinion to theirs as wanting genocide, it's basically pathetic.
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Postby Mujahidah » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:41 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
No trumptonium probably thinks they're too "cucked" cause they don't want outright genocide.


Oh dear, imagine being this triggered

"ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH ME WANTS GENOCIDE"

Congratulations, you've officially reached a trough in your capability to form a coherent argument.


Imagine being this humorless.

Its called parody man. Take a joke.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:42 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Oh dear, imagine being this triggered

"ANYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH ME WANTS GENOCIDE"

Congratulations, you've officially reached a trough in your capability to form a coherent argument.


Imagine being this humorless.

Its called parody man. Take a joke.


Don't go into stand up.
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Postby Kramanica » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:43 pm

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Is that a joke or something? I don't get it. Maybe I'm having one of my stupid days.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:43 pm

Kramanica wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Electronic Dance Leopard
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Is that a joke or something? I don't get it. Maybe I'm having one of my stupid days.

It isn't a joke, just me temporarily reverting into my 6th grade "random=funny" phase.

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Postby Post War America » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:43 pm

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I think you'll find that the naming of towns after ethnicities demonstrates exactly the enclavization of the US during the 19th century. As for extant enclaves, I was more referring to their speaking a language other than one of the common American dialects of English than for their technological customs (which are themselves a measure to reduce reliance on outsiders, and therefore maintain their own cultural isolation).

Idk, man. Haven't exactly come across many towns with really ethnic-y names. I'm not saying there weren't any ethnic enclaves at all. But your suggestion that that was how US culture was until 2018 is wrong.


1918 not 2018. There's a vast difference there.
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Postby USS Monitor » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:46 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
but I don't really care what you want, through your opinions you have shown yourself to be unable to hold certain personal freedoms pertaining to making your own decisions in life


I'm not the one that thinks thing should be illegal cause "it bothers me." I dislike plenty of things. I don't want to ban them because I arbitrarily don't like them. If anyone is incapable of making rational decisions, its you. You have the logic of a child. "WAHHH! I DONT LIKE IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT!" "WHY ARE THE MEAN PARENTS NAMING THIER KIDS NAMES I DONT LIKE?! WAAHHHHHH!" "OH GOSH STOP SAYING THINGS I DISAGREE WITH!!!"

And yet I still think you should be allowed to vote, and I still think you should be able to say whatever dumb thing comes across your neurons.


Trumptonium1 wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Says the one suggesting people who disagree with him shouldn't be allowed to make personal decisions.


oh no, that's not what I said

merely people with the logic of a child, since they don't really fall under adulthood in any way other than physical

Mujahidah wrote:I literally cannot imagine being that inconsistent. I actually have principles and don't just hate dark people lol


well listen, you're america's problem, not mine

america can enjoy one extra terrorist sympathiser and one extra kubumba wife flogger, what it does with them is none of my concern


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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:03 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Because I said so.


And you, alhamdulillah, don't have any power to enforce your asinine opinions.

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Trumptonium1 wrote:
Valgora wrote:
"Because I said so" ain't a reasonable argument.
Again, how the fuck is it rude and uncouth to speak another language in public?


Because society said so.

Racist, xenophobic society =/= all of society
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Arabic names are beautiful. But I'm saying that because Arabic's my favourite language and I know the meanings of more Arabic names than English ones.
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I agree if you come to another country you have an obligation to learn the language but that doesnt mean you shouldn't be allowed to speak your native language in public

Well congrats. You have slightly higher standards than our current system.

The US has non-English speaking immigrants learn basic English.
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
I'm not the one that thinks thing should be illegal cause "it bothers me." I dislike plenty of things. I don't want to ban them because I arbitrarily don't like them. If anyone is incapable of making rational decisions, its you. You have the logic of a child. "WAHHH! I DONT LIKE IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT!" "WHY ARE THE MEAN PARENTS NAMING THIER KIDS NAMES I DONT LIKE?! WAAHHHHHH!" "OH GOSH STOP SAYING THINGS I DISAGREE WITH!!!"

And yet I still think you should be allowed to vote, and I still think you should be able to say whatever dumb thing comes across your neurons.


imagine being this level of triggered lol

Says the one who has a problem with foreign names and languages.
Trumptonium1 wrote:america can enjoy one extra terrorist sympathiser

Mujahidah doesn't support terrorism
Trumptonium1 wrote:and one extra kubumba wife flogger

I never supported flogging wives.
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New Emeline wrote:Imagine thinking triggered is an argument


argument of what?

I don't have the need or the will to argue with someone who accuses anyone with a differing opinion to theirs as wanting genocide, it's basically pathetic.

And she shouldn't have the need or will to argue with someone who falsely accuses her of sympathizing with terrorism.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:41 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
New Emeline wrote:What names are acceptable?


charles and elizabeth

So only english names should be allowed in America or the UK and no others? naming their children Raheem or Armand for example is a way of preserving their culture

All names should be from some government approved list?

And you never answered why all the people in Flushing which is heavily Asian should be forced to move or more Asians shouldn't be allowed to move there.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:47 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
charles and elizabeth

So only english names should be allowed in America or the UK and no others? naming their children Raheem or Armand is a way of preserving their culture

It's not even that, "Raheem" and "Armand" sound better than "Charles" and "Elizabeth" also.
Also, name meanings:
Raheem - Mercy
Armand - Army's man/soldier
Charles - man
Elizabeth - My God is Bountiful
Also, Trumptonium is wrong on "Charles" and "Elizabeth". If he thinks only English names should be allowed in terms of the US, he shouldn't be ok with a German-derived name (Charles) and a Hebrew name (Elizabeth).
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:49 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So only english names should be allowed in America or the UK and no others? naming their children Raheem or Armand is a way of preserving their culture

It's not even that, "Raheem" and "Armand" sound better than "Charles" and "Elizabeth" also.
Also, name meanings:
Raheem - Mercy
Armand - Army's man/soldier
Charles - man
Elizabeth - My God is Bountiful
Also, Trumptonium is wrong on "Charles" and "Elizabeth". If he thinks only English names should be allowed in terms of the US, he shouldn't be ok with a German-derived name (Charles) and a Hebrew name (Elizabeth).

The only acceptable name is now Bob. Not Robert, just Bob.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:51 pm

New Emeline wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:It's not even that, "Raheem" and "Armand" sound better than "Charles" and "Elizabeth" also.
Also, name meanings:
Raheem - Mercy
Armand - Army's man/soldier
Charles - man
Elizabeth - My God is Bountiful
Also, Trumptonium is wrong on "Charles" and "Elizabeth". If he thinks only English names should be allowed in terms of the US, he shouldn't be ok with a German-derived name (Charles) and a Hebrew name (Elizabeth).

The only acceptable name is now Bob. Not Robert, just Bob.

Still comes from Rob(ert), which is Germanic.
Well, I guess that would be ok, since English is a Germanic language. So Rob, Robert and Bob are fine so far.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:53 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
New Emeline wrote:The only acceptable name is now Bob. Not Robert, just Bob.

Still comes from Rob(ert), which is Germanic.

uhhhhhh what names are actually british
i dont know a lot of name origins

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:55 pm

New Emeline wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Still comes from Rob(ert), which is Germanic.

uhhhhhh what names are actually british
i dont know a lot of name origins

Well, technically, purely British names would be Celtic, not Germanic.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:56 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
New Emeline wrote:uhhhhhh what names are actually british
i dont know a lot of name origins

Well, technically, purely British names would be Celtic, not Germanic.

Hmmmmm...
So Siobhan and things like that?

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:56 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:So deport legal immigrants because feefees. Classy. Are you EDL or BFP by any chance?


Compare all anti-mass immigration sentiment to EDL. Classy. You forgot to call me sexist and Hitler at the end there. Or maybe saving those buttons for later.

Such dramatic performance, can easily nab a BAFTA there.

Also...

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:57 pm

New Emeline wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Well, technically, purely British names would be Celtic, not Germanic.

Hmmmmm...
So Siobhan and things like that?

Yeah.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:00 pm

Trumptonium said that only English names should be used in the US because that apparently reflects our culture. Thing is, so do Spanish, Irish, Scot, German, French, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese, Polish, Italian, and the many African and Native American names. They reflect American culture also.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:00 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Hmmmmm...
So Siobhan and things like that?

Yeah.

I like that name. Wouldn't want it though, I'm happy with mine.

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