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Postby Valgora » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:29 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
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No, thats not it. Two people who natively speak one language will feel more comfortable conversing it than in a second language. I'm not suggesting immigrants shouldn't learn English or speak it to the best of their ability with people whose primary language is english, but blowing a gasket over two people preferring their native language is stupid.

I don’t care if they feel more comfortable or not. It’s rude to speak in a foreign language in public

So if two people are walking down the street and they're conversing in their native language, that's rude according to this logic.
How is that rude? They weren't talking to or with you to begin with.

If I am walking with someone from my German class, and we converse in German, is that rude?
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:29 pm

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Alright C3PO


You're the one that wants countries to be the Borg. I wouldn't suggest calling other people robots.

C3PO has a fairly independent personality though, he isn't part of a hivemind. Within the context of his world he's basically a metal person.
Unlike the Borg.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:30 pm

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How is it fundamentally rude to speak a foreign language in public? You have not justified that at all. You've just said "ITS TRUE GOSH DARN IT!" and expected the rest of us to accept it.

I have justified it. You just didn’t like my justification.

You've never been to a foreign country huh?
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Postby Pilarcraft » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:30 pm

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How is it fundamentally rude to speak a foreign language in public? You have not justified that at all. You've just said "ITS TRUE GOSH DARN IT!" and expected the rest of us to accept it.

I have justified it. You just didn’t like my justification.

And is that justification anything beyond "Me and people like me don't like it"? Because I'm legitimately curious about that.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:30 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:The first part. Not the second

Well I guess we agree then. :)

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Postby Kramanica » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:30 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
You're the one that wants countries to be the Borg. I wouldn't suggest calling other people robots.

C3PO has a fairly independent personality though, he isn't part of a hivemind. Within the context of his world he's basically a metal person.
Unlike the Borg.

He could have been the Borg Queen. Just strap on a pair of metal breasts and paint him green.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:31 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I have justified it. You just didn’t like my justification.

You've never been to a foreign country huh?


Are you comparing all immigrants who don't speak English to tourists?

Perhaps we need to deport them for effectively overstaying visas.

In fact, good comparison Gauth, I agree with you for once. Long-term tourists.
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:31 pm

Kramanica wrote:
New Emeline wrote:C3PO has a fairly independent personality though, he isn't part of a hivemind. Within the context of his world he's basically a metal person.
Unlike the Borg.

He could have been the Borg Queen. Just strap on a pair of metal breasts and paint him green.

Are the Borg green? I thought they were just sort of whitish looking.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:31 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I have justified it. You just didn’t like my justification.

You've never been to a foreign country huh?

Been to several actually.
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Postby Mujahidah » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:32 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
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Sorry. I don't want my theoretical future kids to be named Charles and Elizabeth. Freedom of speech applies to people who don't agree with you and you're schizo worldview.


but I don't really care what you want, through your opinions you have shown yourself to be unable to hold certain personal freedoms pertaining to making your own decisions in life


I'm not the one that thinks thing should be illegal cause "it bothers me." I dislike plenty of things. I don't want to ban them because I arbitrarily don't like them. If anyone is incapable of making rational decisions, its you. You have the logic of a child. "WAHHH! I DONT LIKE IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT!" "WHY ARE THE MEAN PARENTS NAMING THIER KIDS NAMES I DONT LIKE?! WAAHHHHHH!" "OH GOSH STOP SAYING THINGS I DISAGREE WITH!!!"

And yet I still think you should be allowed to vote, and I still think you should be able to say whatever dumb thing comes across your neurons.
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Postby Kramanica » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:32 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Kramanica wrote:He could have been the Borg Queen. Just strap on a pair of metal breasts and paint him green.

Are the Borg green? I thought they were just sort of whitish looking.

The queen was sorta dark green. I remember a lot of their technology had a dark green glow.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:33 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
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but I don't really care what you want, through your opinions you have shown yourself to be unable to hold certain personal freedoms pertaining to making your own decisions in life


I'm not the one that thinks thing should be illegal cause "it bothers me." I dislike plenty of things. I don't want to ban them because I arbitrarily don't like them. If anyone is incapable of making rational decisions, its you. You have the logic of a child. "WAHHH! I DONT LIKE IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT!" "WHY ARE THE MEAN PARENTS NAMING THIER KIDS NAMES I DONT LIKE?! WAAHHHHHH!" "OH GOSH STOP SAYING THINGS I DISAGREE WITH!!!"

And yet I still think you should be allowed to vote, and I still think you should be able to say whatever dumb thing comes across your neurons.


imagine being this level of triggered lol
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:34 pm

Pilarcraft wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I have justified it. You just didn’t like my justification.

And is that justification anything beyond "Me and people like me don't like it"? Because I'm legitimately curious about that.

No. It’s just that I think when you are in a group of people and part of the group talks in a foreign language that it’s rude. I have nothing against random people talking in a foreign language, though I’d rather them to at least try to speak the dominant language of that nation. Just like I would if I went to their nation.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:34 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:You've never been to a foreign country huh?

Been to several actually.

And did you learn to fluently speak their language before going there or kept mute and used sign language?
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Postby Mujahidah » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:34 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
I'm not the one that thinks thing should be illegal cause "it bothers me." I dislike plenty of things. I don't want to ban them because I arbitrarily don't like them. If anyone is incapable of making rational decisions, its you. You have the logic of a child. "WAHHH! I DONT LIKE IT BAN IT BAN IT BAN IT!" "WHY ARE THE MEAN PARENTS NAMING THIER KIDS NAMES I DONT LIKE?! WAAHHHHHH!" "OH GOSH STOP SAYING THINGS I DISAGREE WITH!!!"

And yet I still think you should be allowed to vote, and I still think you should be able to say whatever dumb thing comes across your neurons.


imagine being this level of triggered lol


Says the one suggesting people who disagree with him shouldn't be allowed to make personal decisions. I literally cannot imagine being that inconsistent. I actually have principles and don't just hate dark people lol
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:34 pm

Kramanica wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Are the Borg green? I thought they were just sort of whitish looking.

The queen was sorta dark green. I remember a lot of their technology had a dark green glow.

Ah. I don't really remember much except they rode around in a big cube.

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Postby Mujahidah » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:35 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:And is that justification anything beyond "Me and people like me don't like it"? Because I'm legitimately curious about that.

No. It’s just that I think when you are in a group of people and part of the group talks in a foreign language that it’s rude. I have nothing against random people talking in a foreign language, though I’d rather them to at least try to speak the dominant language of that nation. Just like I would if I went to their nation.


What if Person A and Person B are just sitting on a park bench and noone else is involved in the conversation, but they're "in public?"
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:35 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No. It’s just that I think when you are in a group of people and part of the group talks in a foreign language that it’s rude. I have nothing against random people talking in a foreign language, though I’d rather them to at least try to speak the dominant language of that nation. Just like I would if I went to their nation.


What if Person A and Person B are just sitting on a park bench and noone else is involved in the conversation, but they're "in public?"

I think according to them that wouldn't be rude, because they aren't excluding anyone.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:35 pm

Mujahidah wrote:Says the one suggesting people who disagree with him shouldn't be allowed to make personal decisions. I literally cannot imagine being that inconsistent. I actually have principles and don't just hate dark people lol

It does seem odd how far racism overrides supposedly deeply held principles.

It's almost like racists in the modern day have nothing else they truly believe in, other than their own fear.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:36 pm

Trumptonium1 wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:You've never been to a foreign country huh?


Are you comparing all immigrants who don't speak English to tourists?

Perhaps we need to deport them for effectively overstaying visas.

In fact, good comparison Gauth, I agree with you for once. Long-term tourists.

So deport legal immigrants because feefees. Classy. Are you EDL or BFP by any chance?
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Postby Mujahidah » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:36 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Are you comparing all immigrants who don't speak English to tourists?

Perhaps we need to deport them for effectively overstaying visas.

In fact, good comparison Gauth, I agree with you for once. Long-term tourists.

So deport legal immigrants because feefees. Classy. Are you EDL or BFP by any chance?


No trumptonium probably thinks they're too "cucked" cause they don't want outright genocide.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:36 pm

Valgora wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don’t care if they feel more comfortable or not. It’s rude to speak in a foreign language in public

So if two people are walking down the street and they're conversing in their native language, that's rude according to this logic.
How is that rude? They weren't talking to or with you to begin with.

If I am walking with someone from my German class, and we converse in German, is that rude?

I didn’t say that two people walking down the street talking in a language they both understand is rude.

The first part of this is what I think is rude. I just have trouble explaining myself over text format, it’s one one the main reasons why I’m not a big RPer.

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Valgora wrote:When? When did society decide that?
Do most people find it rude when someone speaks to someone else in a different language?

I would find it rude if I am in a group with them and they're doing it to make sure I can't hear them or to exclude me, but if there's just random people in public speaking Spanish or Japanese it doesn't bother me.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:36 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
imagine being this level of triggered lol


Says the one suggesting people who disagree with him shouldn't be allowed to make personal decisions.


oh no, that's not what I said

merely people with the logic of a child, since they don't really fall under adulthood in any way other than physical

Mujahidah wrote:I literally cannot imagine being that inconsistent. I actually have principles and don't just hate dark people lol


well listen, you're america's problem, not mine

america can enjoy one extra terrorist sympathiser and one extra kubumba wife flogger, what it does with them is none of my concern
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Postby Kramanica » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:37 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Are you comparing all immigrants who don't speak English to tourists?

Perhaps we need to deport them for effectively overstaying visas.

In fact, good comparison Gauth, I agree with you for once. Long-term tourists.

So deport legal immigrants because feefees. Classy. Are you EDL or BFP by any chance?

What do these acronyms stand for, Gauth?
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Postby New Emeline » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:38 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:So deport legal immigrants because feefees. Classy. Are you EDL or BFP by any chance?

What do these acronyms stand for, Gauth?

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