Diversity and Multiculturalism II:Make Diversity Great Again

[Frievolk]

If guns are an integral part of his culture, then his culture is being suppressed if the state is preventing him from buying guns. Do you or do you not think cultural suppression is bad?

Yes but he is not being suppressed.

The proposal of "we should prevent him from buying guns" means you support suppressing his gun culture. Do you, or do you not, think suppression of cultures is bad?
I mean me in particular? I don't. Some cultures need to be actively rooted out. You however, have made arguments on the contrary.

[San Lumen]

Yes but he is not being suppressed.

The proposal of "we should prevent him from buying guns" means you support suppressing his gun culture. Do you, or do you not, think suppression of cultures is bad?
I mean me in particular? I don't. Some cultures need to be actively rooted out. You however, have made arguments on the contrary.

He does not have a right to any and all firearms. That is not suppression.

[West Leas Oros 2]

well well welly well, what have we got here?

[Volkari]

Most American nationalists advocate closed borders and limiting citizenship to White Anglo Saxon Protestants - screw that. We're America, we assimilate everyone regardless of race, religion, or culture. Our country is built on an Idea and not the petty bloodlines of ethnic nations. Our goal should be the Americanization of the entire world and not limiting ourselves to one continent.

[Frievolk]

The proposal of "we should prevent him from buying guns" means you support suppressing his gun culture. Do you, or do you not, think suppression of cultures is bad?
I mean me in particular? I don't. Some cultures need to be actively rooted out. You however, have made arguments on the contrary.

He does not have a right to any and all firearms. That is not suppression.

So you're suggesting that the State not allowing to, according to his culture, acquire any and all guns he need (provided he doesn't use them for murder), which is defined as suppressing his right to practice his culture and thus, suppressing is culture, is not "suppression" because you disagree with his culture.

Unless of course, you provide reason that a "gun culture" doesn't exist, which is probably what you should be doing right now.

[Ors Might]

The proposal of "we should prevent him from buying guns" means you support suppressing his gun culture. Do you, or do you not, think suppression of cultures is bad?
I mean me in particular? I don't. Some cultures need to be actively rooted out. You however, have made arguments on the contrary.

He does not have a right to any and all firearms. That is not suppression.

Hold the fuck up. You already agreed that suppressing his ability to purchase firearms, a big part of his culture, is cultural suppression.

[San Lumen]

He does not have a right to any and all firearms. That is not suppression.

Hold the fuck up. You already agreed that suppressing his ability to purchase firearms, a big part of his culture, is cultural suppression.

and everyone else doesnt matter right?

[Frievolk]

Hold the fuck up. You already agreed that suppressing his ability to purchase firearms, a big part of his culture, is cultural suppression.

and everyone else doesnt matter right?

So then you'd agree on banning the Muslims from getting Halaal foodstuff, wearing Hijab, or holding Public Salaat too then?

[The Emerald Legion]

The proposal of "we should prevent him from buying guns" means you support suppressing his gun culture. Do you, or do you not, think suppression of cultures is bad?
I mean me in particular? I don't. Some cultures need to be actively rooted out. You however, have made arguments on the contrary.

He does not have a right to any and all firearms. That is not suppression.

Actually he does.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Militia = all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service. / a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army. / a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

Arms = weapons and ammunition; armaments. "arms exports"synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

Infringed = act so as to limit or undermine (something)

Any and all gun control is strictly unconstitutional. Useful perhaps in certain scenarios. But a violation of human rights no matter the circumstances.

[Ors Might]

Hold the fuck up. You already agreed that suppressing his ability to purchase firearms, a big part of his culture, is cultural suppression.

and everyone else doesnt matter right?

I thought you were big on multiculturalism and shit. Why are you okay with the majority suppressing the culture of the minority?

[San Lumen]

He does not have a right to any and all firearms. That is not suppression.

Actually he does.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Militia = all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service. / a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army. / a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

Arms = weapons and ammunition; armaments. "arms exports"synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

Infringed = act so as to limit or undermine (something)

Any and all gun control is strictly unconstitutional. Useful perhaps in certain scenarios. But a violation of human rights no matter the circumstances.

This is not a gun debate. His rights are not being violated in any way. He’s not of the Royhinga or Karen people’s

and everyone else doesnt matter right?

I thought you were big on multiculturalism and shit. Why are you okay with the majority suppressing the culture of the minority?

He is not being suppressed

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Actually he does.



Militia = all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service. / a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities in opposition to a regular army. / a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.

Arms = weapons and ammunition; armaments. "arms exports"synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

Infringed = act so as to limit or undermine (something)

Any and all gun control is strictly unconstitutional. Useful perhaps in certain scenarios. But a violation of human rights no matter the circumstances.

This is not a gun debate. His rights are not being violated in any way. He’s not of the Royhinga or Karen people’s

I thought you were big on multiculturalism and shit. Why are you okay with the majority suppressing the culture of the minority?

He is not being suppressed

The right to bear arms is a right, guy.

[San Lumen]

This is not a gun debate. His rights are not being violated in any way. He’s not of the Royhinga or Karen people’s


He is not being suppressed

The right to bear arms is a right, guy.

It’s not a unlimited right nor is this a gun debate

[The Emerald Legion]

The right to bear arms is a right, guy.

It’s not a unlimited right nor is this a gun debate

Of course it's an unlimited right. Why wouldn't it be?

That's like saying "the right to life isn't an unlimited right."

[Frievolk]

The right to bear arms is a right, guy.

It’s not a unlimited right nor is this a gun debate

Why not? Is Gun culture not a culture?

[Frievolk]

It’s not a unlimited right nor is this a gun debate

Of course it's an unlimited right. Why wouldn't it be?

That's like saying "the right to life isn't an unlimited right."

technically it isn't. No right is unlimited, because in that case the State would be moot.

[San Lumen]

Of course it's an unlimited right. Why wouldn't it be?

That's like saying "the right to life isn't an unlimited right."

technically it isn't. No right is unlimited, because in that case the State would be moot.

How can Telconi claim suppression then?

[Frievolk]

technically it isn't. No right is unlimited, because in that case the State would be moot.

How can Telconi claim suppression then?

Because it's being limited to a point of absurdity? Any limitation on "owning guns" is one that is to a point of absurdity, the idea of "Self-defense" can't logically be limited to an "Acceptable" degree, especially by the State.

[Hammer Britannia]

technically it isn't. No right is unlimited, because in that case the State would be moot.

How can Telconi claim suppression then?

... Because it's a part of his culture? Just like (In certain) Suicide, Rape, Murder, Theft, Blood Rituals, The only difference is that guns is considered a right in the US

By suppressing guns, you are suppressing his cultural values. Just in the same way suppressing languages/religions is suppressing their cultural values.

[Sirocca]

There isn’t a deliberate attempt. But that’s irrelevant. The harm exists nonetheless.

B-but if the majority wants it, it's legitimate!

This is why the idea of pure democracy sucks.

[San Lumen]

How can Telconi claim suppression then?

... Because it's a part of his culture? Just like (In certain) Suicide, Rape, Murder, Theft, Blood Rituals, The only difference is that guns is considered a right in the US

By suppressing guns, you are suppressing his cultural values. Just in the same way suppressing languages/religions is suppressing their cultural values.

So we ought to allow all guns beacause a minority sees it as a culture. If someone of the Karen group heard not being able to buy guns is oppression they would be deeply offended

[Northern Davincia]

Hold the fuck up. You already agreed that suppressing his ability to purchase firearms, a big part of his culture, is cultural suppression.

and everyone else doesnt matter right?

Minorites matter too. Nobody is harmed by Telconi's culture.

[Hammer Britannia]

... Because it's a part of his culture? Just like (In certain) Suicide, Rape, Murder, Theft, Blood Rituals, The only difference is that guns is considered a right in the US

By suppressing guns, you are suppressing his cultural values. Just in the same way suppressing languages/religions is suppressing their cultural values.

So we ought to allow all guns beacause a minority sees it as a culture.

By your logic, yes. (And yes either way). Because by denying a minority culture's right to their cultural values you're being xenophobic.

By banning guns, you're worse than Trump

If someone of the Karen group heard not being able to buy guns is oppression they would be deeply offended

And if someone told Telconi that him being denied a part of his culture was not oppression then he would be equally offended.

[Frievolk]

... Because it's a part of his culture? Just like (In certain) Suicide, Rape, Murder, Theft, Blood Rituals, The only difference is that guns is considered a right in the US

By suppressing guns, you are suppressing his cultural values. Just in the same way suppressing languages/religions is suppressing their cultural values.

So we ought to allow all guns beacause a minority sees it as a culture. If someone of the Karen group heard not being able to buy guns is oppression they would be deeply offended

We allow people wearing Hijab because a minority sees it as a culture. We actually allow people to dress up in literal garbage bags that they can hide anything under for that, despite the fact any person wearing Hijab is naturally being forced to do so (either by religion or family). Why not allow another minority from owning guns? Because you don't like it?

[Northern Davincia]

So we ought to allow all guns beacause a minority sees it as a culture. If someone of the Karen group heard not being able to buy guns is oppression they would be deeply offended

We allow people wearing Hijab because a minority sees it as a culture. We actually allow people to dress up in literal garbage bags that they can hide anything under for that, despite the fact any person wearing Hijab is naturally being forced to do so (either by religion or family). Why not allow another minority from owning guns? Because you don't like it?

Because guns, like hijabs, are scary to some folk.