And David Richmond had an illegal skin color at that lunch counter -shrug-
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by Telconi » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:05 pm
by Bear Stearns » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:37 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:I just want strict constructionist judges.
If we had strict constructionist 'well-regulated' would be interpreted in the context of modern day English rather than originalist-style interpretation of intent.The government has survived well enough without income tax before.
All taxes are deprivations of property, inherently. I don't believe the government has ever survived without any form of income before.
by Conserative Morality » Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:39 pm
Bear Stearns wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:If we had strict constructionist 'well-regulated' would be interpreted in the context of modern day English rather than originalist-style interpretation of intent.
I don't believe the government has ever survived without any form of income before.
He means income taxes, not all taxes in general.
The government mostly funded itself through tariff, excise, property, and sales taxes.
And through the sale of land and debt.
All taxes are deprivations of property, inherently.
All taxes are deprivations of property
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by Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:19 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:
He means income taxes, not all taxes in general.
The government mostly funded itself through tariff, excise, property, and sales taxes.
And through the sale of land and debt.All taxes are deprivations of property, inherently.All taxes are deprivations of propertyAll taxesAlltaxes
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:34 pm
Telconi wrote:As for being offensive, I frankly dont care, if my statements offend you, its probably an indication that it's a morally sound statement.
Telconi wrote:San Lumen wrote:No it really isn't. You simply dont like that people disagree with you and have the nerve to call yourself oppressed
Then why dont you move to Budapest?
Well that's your opinion. You dont like that Viktor Orban disagrees with you, and have the nerve to call Hungarians oppressed.
Why didn't black folks just move out of the south? Why didn't gay folks just move to San Francisco? Why don't American Muslims just move to Saudi Arabia?
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by Telconi » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:04 pm
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Telconi wrote:As for being offensive, I frankly dont care, if my statements offend you, its probably an indication that it's a morally sound statement.
That's a really bad logic to go by.Telconi wrote:
Well that's your opinion. You dont like that Viktor Orban disagrees with you, and have the nerve to call Hungarians oppressed.
Why didn't black folks just move out of the south? Why didn't gay folks just move to San Francisco? Why don't American Muslims just move to Saudi Arabia?
Why the frick would we go to Saudi lol? Except for Hajj and 'Umrah of course. And other religious stuff.
by Luminesa » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:11 pm
San Lumen wrote:Ors Might wrote:Why does something have to be exactly like something from those countries? How are you defining oppression?
Because their are the literal definition of oppression. There is no free press, assembly, freedom of religion or speech. Elections are total shams and completely meaningless. In Eritrea they have never been held.
by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:17 pm
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by Ors Might » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:04 am
by Nolo gap » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:18 pm
by The World Capitalist Confederation » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:23 pm
by Telconi » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:06 pm
by Holy Tedalonia » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:19 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:San Lumen wrote:I am going to say this one more time. There is not some mass conspiracy of people in Sacramento sitting at desks and laughing manically at ways to screw you over. To compare you so called plight of being outvoted by the rest of your state to people who have faced actual oppression is downright offensive. You are not oppressed by a long shot. You dont live in a dictatorship like Eritrea or Uzbekistan.
I will remind you again that Hungary is a democracy in name only at this point. There is no free press, no independent courts, the election lines are drawn so the ruling party cannot lose its supermajority and the opposition is so fractured they have little hope of being even remotely relevant.
Oppression comes in many shapes and sizes. It's like telling someone they can either put up with sitting in the back of the bus, or move to North Korea. It's nonsense.
by Ors Might » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:47 pm
by Northern Davincia » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:53 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by San Lumen » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:22 pm
by Ors Might » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:34 pm
San Lumen wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:B-but if the majority wants it, it's legitimate!
This is delving into election reform and this discussion probably belongs in the appropriate thread
Unless you can show how it’s relevant
Here is the appropriate thread: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=456798&start=750
by Telconi » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:34 pm
San Lumen wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:B-but if the majority wants it, it's legitimate!
This is delving into election reform and this discussion probably belongs in the appropriate thread
Unless you can show how it’s relevant
Here is the appropriate thread: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=456798&start=750
by San Lumen » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:57 pm
Telconi wrote:San Lumen wrote:This is delving into election reform and this discussion probably belongs in the appropriate thread
Unless you can show how it’s relevant
Here is the appropriate thread: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=456798&start=750
We have to demonstrate how cultural suppression is relevant to the thread about "Diversity and Multiculturalism"?
by Ors Might » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:00 pm
by Telconi » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:58 pm
Ors Might wrote:San Lumen wrote:How is your culture being suppressed because you can’t by any gun you want somehow your oppressed people like the Royhinga or Karen peoples?
If guns are an integral part of his culture, then his culture is being suppressed if the state is preventing him from buying guns. Do you or do you not think cultural suppression is bad?
by San Lumen » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:57 am
Ors Might wrote:San Lumen wrote:How is your culture being suppressed because you can’t by any gun you want somehow your oppressed people like the Royhinga or Karen peoples?
If guns are an integral part of his culture, then his culture is being suppressed if the state is preventing him from buying guns. Do you or do you not think cultural suppression is bad?
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