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Postby Estanglia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:32 am

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Telconi wrote:
I'm sure you could dig up any of the various times I've answered this question. Or just not ask it since you Lready know the answer.


Yeah its about something totally irrelevant and somehow comparable to someone from Burma or Uzbekistan


Has Telconi compared his situation to those in Myanmar and Uzbekistan? I don't recall them doing so. In fact, the only person I recall making that comparison is you.

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While it might upset you to hear this, cultures you dislike are still cultures.


Yes but you are not oppressed like someone from Uzbekistan, Sudan or Eritrea. Your plight is nothing like someone from there.


It doesn't have to be for one to be oppressed.

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Ors Might wrote:Why does something have to be exactly like something from those countries? How are you defining oppression?


Because their are the literal definition of oppression. There is no free press, assembly, freedom of religion or speech. Elections are total shams and completely meaningless. In Eritrea they have never been held.


They may fit the definition of oppression, but they are not exclusive. One can be oppressed and not be in as severe of a situation as Eritreans, Sudanese, Uzbeks etc
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:49 am

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Sirocca wrote:Diversity and multiculturalism in itself is not a strength, rather it is just a buzzword that powerful businesses and groups speak to the masses in order to be "cool".


Yeah, you are basically right. Diversity and multiculturalism are basically overrated nonsense. Racism and bigotry are probably worse, but we can still insist that immigrants assimilate integrate into our culture and follow our laws without embracing racist nonsense.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:04 am

Is San Lumen playing Oppression Olympics again?
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:46 am

Estanglia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah its about something totally irrelevant and somehow comparable to someone from Burma or Uzbekistan


Has Telconi compared his situation to those in Myanmar and Uzbekistan? I don't recall them doing so. In fact, the only person I recall making that comparison is you.

San Lumen wrote:
Yes but you are not oppressed like someone from Uzbekistan, Sudan or Eritrea. Your plight is nothing like someone from there.


It doesn't have to be for one to be oppressed.

San Lumen wrote:
Because their are the literal definition of oppression. There is no free press, assembly, freedom of religion or speech. Elections are total shams and completely meaningless. In Eritrea they have never been held.


They may fit the definition of oppression, but they are not exclusive. One can be oppressed and not be in as severe of a situation as Eritreans, Sudanese, Uzbeks etc


In Lumen's defense, which I am loathe to come to, I have made comparisons. However, they were purely categorical in nature.

Second day, the severity of a particular wrong is highly subjective, for example, comparisons have been made to such issues as homosexuals having equal right to marry. And people in Hungary having an ineffective Democracy. While I agree those people are being mistreated, I would gladly trade my situation for theirs.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:19 pm

Telconi wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Has Telconi compared his situation to those in Myanmar and Uzbekistan? I don't recall them doing so. In fact, the only person I recall making that comparison is you.



It doesn't have to be for one to be oppressed.



They may fit the definition of oppression, but they are not exclusive. One can be oppressed and not be in as severe of a situation as Eritreans, Sudanese, Uzbeks etc


In Lumen's defense, which I am loathe to come to, I have made comparisons. However, they were purely categorical in nature.

Second day, the severity of a particular wrong is highly subjective, for example, comparisons have been made to such issues as homosexuals having equal right to marry. And people in Hungary having an ineffective Democracy. While I agree those people are being mistreated, I would gladly trade my situation for theirs.


so go move to Budapest then

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Postby Telconi » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
In Lumen's defense, which I am loathe to come to, I have made comparisons. However, they were purely categorical in nature.

Second day, the severity of a particular wrong is highly subjective, for example, comparisons have been made to such issues as homosexuals having equal right to marry. And people in Hungary having an ineffective Democracy. While I agree those people are being mistreated, I would gladly trade my situation for theirs.


so go move to Budapest then


Why should I have to move somewhere to receive decent treatment?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:48 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
so go move to Budapest then


Why should I have to move somewhere to receive decent treatment?

I am going to say this one more time. There is not some mass conspiracy of people in Sacramento sitting at desks and laughing manically at ways to screw you over. To compare you so called plight of being outvoted by the rest of your state to people who have faced actual oppression is downright offensive. You are not oppressed by a long shot. You dont live in a dictatorship like Eritrea or Uzbekistan.

I will remind you again that Hungary is a democracy in name only at this point. There is no free press, no independent courts, the election lines are drawn so the ruling party cannot lose its supermajority and the opposition is so fractured they have little hope of being even remotely relevant.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:53 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why should I have to move somewhere to receive decent treatment?

I am going to say this one more time. There is not some mass conspiracy of people in Sacramento sitting at desks and laughing manically at ways to screw you over. To compare you so called plight of being outvoted by the rest of your state to people who have faced actual oppression is downright offensive. You are not oppressed by a long shot. You dont live in a dictatorship like Eritrea or Uzbekistan.

I will remind you again that Hungary is a democracy in name only at this point. There is no free press, no independent courts, the election lines are drawn so the ruling party cannot lose its supermajority and the opposition is so fractured they have little hope of being even remotely relevant.

Oppression comes in many shapes and sizes. It's like telling someone they can either put up with sitting in the back of the bus, or move to North Korea. It's nonsense.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:55 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I am going to say this one more time. There is not some mass conspiracy of people in Sacramento sitting at desks and laughing manically at ways to screw you over. To compare you so called plight of being outvoted by the rest of your state to people who have faced actual oppression is downright offensive. You are not oppressed by a long shot. You dont live in a dictatorship like Eritrea or Uzbekistan.

I will remind you again that Hungary is a democracy in name only at this point. There is no free press, no independent courts, the election lines are drawn so the ruling party cannot lose its supermajority and the opposition is so fractured they have little hope of being even remotely relevant.

Oppression comes in many shapes and sizes. It's like telling someone they can either put up with sitting in the back of the bus, or move to North Korea. It's nonsense.

How is Telconi oppressed? Because the majority of people in the state disagree with him?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Oppression comes in many shapes and sizes. It's like telling someone they can either put up with sitting in the back of the bus, or move to North Korea. It's nonsense.

How is Telconi oppressed? Because the majority of people in the state disagree with him?


Pretty much. Though I do think he wasn't fairly compensated for the guns he was forced to surrender.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:57 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How is Telconi oppressed? Because the majority of people in the state disagree with him?


Pretty much. Though I do think he wasn't fairly compensated for the guns he was forced to surrender.


Who cares? he admitted to harboring illegal weapons.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Oppression comes in many shapes and sizes. It's like telling someone they can either put up with sitting in the back of the bus, or move to North Korea. It's nonsense.

How is Telconi oppressed? Because the majority of people in the state disagree with him?

The majority can be wrong, y'know.
San Lumen wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Pretty much. Though I do think he wasn't fairly compensated for the guns he was forced to surrender.


Who cares? he admitted to harboring illegal weapons.

And good for him. Immoral laws should be broken.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:01 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How is Telconi oppressed? Because the majority of people in the state disagree with him?

The majority can be wrong, y'know.


Yes true but in his case it boils down to not liking that the majority has a different opinion than him

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:01 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The majority can be wrong, y'know.


Yes true but in his case it boils down to not liking that the majority has a different opinion than him

I wonder how many fans of Jim Crow used the same argument. It's not about opinion, it's about his constitutional rights being thwarted.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:03 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yes true but in his case it boils down to not liking that the majority has a different opinion than him

I wonder how many fans of Jim Crow used the same argument. It's not about opinion, it's about his constitutional rights being thwarted.


Yes how dare the legislature do what it was voted in to do.

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Postby Telconi » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:04 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why should I have to move somewhere to receive decent treatment?

I am going to say this one more time. There is not some mass conspiracy of people in Sacramento sitting at desks and laughing manically at ways to screw you over. To compare you so called plight of being outvoted by the rest of your state to people who have faced actual oppression is downright offensive. You are not oppressed by a long shot. You dont live in a dictatorship like Eritrea or Uzbekistan.

I will remind you again that Hungary is a democracy in name only at this point. There is no free press, no independent courts, the election lines are drawn so the ruling party cannot lose its supermajority and the opposition is so fractured they have little hope of being even remotely relevant.


You can stop saying it, everyone here is fully aware that I dont live under a dictatorship. Thanks for checking yet again. As for being offensive, I frankly dont care, if my statements offend you, its probably an indication that it's a morally sound statement.

So?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:I wonder how many fans of Jim Crow used the same argument. It's not about opinion, it's about his constitutional rights being thwarted.


Yes how dare the legislature do what it was voted in to do.

We have the constitution to restrict these kinds of things. The people should limit the government, not the other way around.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:05 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I am going to say this one more time. There is not some mass conspiracy of people in Sacramento sitting at desks and laughing manically at ways to screw you over. To compare you so called plight of being outvoted by the rest of your state to people who have faced actual oppression is downright offensive. You are not oppressed by a long shot. You dont live in a dictatorship like Eritrea or Uzbekistan.

I will remind you again that Hungary is a democracy in name only at this point. There is no free press, no independent courts, the election lines are drawn so the ruling party cannot lose its supermajority and the opposition is so fractured they have little hope of being even remotely relevant.


You can stop saying it, everyone here is fully aware that I dont live under a dictatorship. Thanks for checking yet again. As for being offensive, I frankly dont care, if my statements offend you, its probably an indication that it's a morally sound statement.

So?


you need to get some prospective

The situation in Hungary is a good thing to you?

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
You can stop saying it, everyone here is fully aware that I dont live under a dictatorship. Thanks for checking yet again. As for being offensive, I frankly dont care, if my statements offend you, its probably an indication that it's a morally sound statement.

So?


you need to get some prospective

The situation in Hungary is a good thing to you?

Stop using logical fallacies.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:06 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
you need to get some prospective

The situation in Hungary is a good thing to you?

Stop using logical fallacies.

Its not a logical fallacy

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Postby Telconi » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The majority can be wrong, y'know.


Yes true but in his case it boils down to not liking that the majority has a different opinion than him


Isnt that the root source of all dislike in that sense?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:07 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yes true but in his case it boils down to not liking that the majority has a different opinion than him


Isnt that the root source of all dislike in that sense?

what are you talking about?

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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:07 pm

San Lumen wrote:

Its not a logical fallacy

Yes, it is. You try to distract from your own weak argument by pointing out how bad other places are.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:08 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
You can stop saying it, everyone here is fully aware that I dont live under a dictatorship. Thanks for checking yet again. As for being offensive, I frankly dont care, if my statements offend you, its probably an indication that it's a morally sound statement.

So?


you need to get some prospective

The situation in Hungary is a good thing to you?


I have a perspective, it's just a good, decent one, which seems to be your point of issue.

Good? No. Less bad than the situation in California? Yes.
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