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Postby San Lumen » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:03 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:This a thread jack at this point and belongs in the elections thread


I think the intricacies of the friction between our cultures is very relevant to the multiculturalism thread.

Not really when that discussion involves how the government is formulated

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:22 am

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Kowani wrote: As far as I know, we’re not the progressive media, mate. Gillette is a Razor Company, not a media one. , :rofl: :rofl:
Okay. I’ll bite. What issue in America solely affects white people on a large scale because they’re white? Affirmative Action. That’s it. While problematic, it’s not so much to make the Democratic Party “anti-white bigots.”

I mean the topic of the thread. The mainstream media assumed the white teen is by default guilty because he dared to stare the proud Indian.

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:Yes, they are many issues the major one would be immigration which hurts the white working class

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:and which makes white a minority in their countries.

Why is this a problem?
ShakaZuli wrote:It is obvious the left want to ethnically clean Europe and America from white people.

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:Than there is the problem with black crime which disproportionally targets white people

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:yet the media is overblowing cases where supposedly whites target minorities.

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:Than there is hate crimes laws, which is never applied to minorities but only on whites.

Prove it.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:27 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
ShakaZuli wrote:I mean the topic of the thread. The mainstream media assumed the white teen is by default guilty because he dared to stare the proud Indian.

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:Yes, they are many issues the major one would be immigration which hurts the white working class

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:and which makes white a minority in their countries.

Why is this a problem?
ShakaZuli wrote:It is obvious the left want to ethnically clean Europe and America from white people.

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:Than there is the problem with black crime which disproportionally targets white people

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:yet the media is overblowing cases where supposedly whites target minorities.

Prove it.
ShakaZuli wrote:Than there is hate crimes laws, which is never applied to minorities but only on whites.

Prove it.


There is no proof of any of their claims. I think a lot of this kind of talk comes from not liking changing demographics and fear of minorities becoming the majority. Honestly who cares what someones skin color or religion is.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:Honestly who cares what someones religion is.

Almost every religious person on the planet.
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Postby Ors Might » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:35 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Honestly who cares what someones religion is.

Almost every religious person on the planet.

It’s honestly kind of a big deal for the religious
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:36 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Honestly who cares what someones religion is.

Almost every religious person on the planet.

What do you mean? Im religious and I don't care what other persons religion is.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Almost every religious person on the planet.

What do you mean?

I mean that most religions teach that only their way is the way to salvation, or that it's the best way.
San Lumen wrote:Im religious and I don't care what other persons religion is.

Hence why I said "almost".
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:45 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Almost every religious person on the planet.

It’s honestly kind of a big deal for the religious

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Postby Ors Might » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:51 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ors Might wrote:It’s honestly kind of a big deal for the religious

Haqq

In Christianity, you’re pretty much required to care. One of a Christian’s duties is to spread the word and convince as many people as they can to convert, to prevent them from suffering eternally. Heck, according to Christian teachings, it’d be cruel not to care about the religious beliefs of other people.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:52 pm

Ors Might wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Haqq

In Christianity, you’re pretty much required to care. One of a Christian’s duties is to spread the word and convince as many people as they can to convert, to prevent them from suffering eternally. Heck, according to Christian teachings, it’d be cruel not to care about the religious beliefs of other people.

A similar thing in Al-Islam, with the addition of people not hearing of Al-Islam in its true form still having a chance to be saved.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Almost every religious person on the planet.

What do you mean? Im religious and I don't care what other persons religion is.

I'm also religious and I care a lot. It is very important, at least in Christianity.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:55 pm

Geneviev wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What do you mean? Im religious and I don't care what other persons religion is.

I'm also religious and I care a lot. It is very important, at least in Christianity.

Can we not turn this into a religious debate? Its kind of off topic.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I'm also religious and I care a lot. It is very important, at least in Christianity.

Can we not turn this into a religious debate? Its kind of off topic.

No it's not. We're talking about religions, which are very diverse and relevant in this thread, considering it's about diveristy. Also, this isn't religious debate, it's religious discussion.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:57 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Can we not turn this into a religious debate? Its kind of off topic.

No it's not. We're talking about religions, which are very diverse and relevant in this thread, considering it's about diveristy. Also, this isn't religious debate, it's religious discussion.

I guess your right

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Postby Ors Might » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:28 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ors Might wrote:In Christianity, you’re pretty much required to care. One of a Christian’s duties is to spread the word and convince as many people as they can to convert, to prevent them from suffering eternally. Heck, according to Christian teachings, it’d be cruel not to care about the religious beliefs of other people.

A similar thing in Al-Islam, with the addition of people not hearing of Al-Islam in its true form still having a chance to be saved.

In some sects, those who haven’t heard of Christ don’t go to Hell unless they were prticularly shitty. It’s complicated.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:32 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:A similar thing in Al-Islam, with the addition of people not hearing of Al-Islam in its true form still having a chance to be saved.

In some sects, those who haven’t heard of Christ don’t go to Hell unless they were prticularly shitty. It’s complicated.

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Postby Puldania » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:33 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:It’s only unfair to you because your side doesn’t always and your vote doesn’t count more than urban counties

And in Hungary the opposition cannot win because the party in power has made it so

Prove how 61 percent of the electorate voting for the other candidate for governor is unfair or dictatorial


Can't prove your flights of fancy, sorry.

Irony.
Can you provide a source on your prior claim pl0x
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:34 pm

Puldania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Can't prove your flights of fancy, sorry.

Irony.
Can you provide a source on your prior claim pl0x

There is a thread for the this: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=456798&start=750

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Postby Telconi » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:36 pm

Puldania wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Can't prove your flights of fancy, sorry.

Irony.
Can you provide a source on your prior claim pl0x


And what would that be?
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:37 pm

Telconi wrote:
Puldania wrote:Irony.
Can you provide a source on your prior claim pl0x


And what would that be?

We have a thread to discuss election reform. This is not the place. This is the thread for this viewtopic.php?f=20&t=456798&start=750
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Postby Ors Might » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:40 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Ors Might wrote:In some sects, those who haven’t heard of Christ don’t go to Hell unless they were prticularly shitty. It’s complicated.

Virtuous pagan.

Basically. It’s a relatively rare position in the church, though oddly enough Christians that know the way and yet turn from it are considered worse off than nonbelievers.
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Postby Puldania » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:41 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Virtuous pagan.

Basically. It’s a relatively rare position in the church, though oddly enough Christians that know the way and yet turn from it are consider worse off than nonbelievers.

That's personally my line of belief.
It makes no sense to punish someone for ignorance as opposed to willful abandon.
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Postby Ors Might » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:43 pm

Puldania wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Basically. It’s a relatively rare position in the church, though oddly enough Christians that know the way and yet turn from it are consider worse off than nonbelievers.

That's personally my line of belief.
It makes no sense to punish someone for ignorance as opposed to willful abandon.

Ehhh it’s more complicated than that. Sects that don’t share that view believe that the natural world is evidence enough to lead one to believe in a god, though why it’d be the Christian god is unclear. In addition, since they believe god cannot coexist with sin, any sin is enough to damn you if you don’t follow the way of Christ.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And what would that be?

We have a thread to discuss election reform. This is not the place. This is the thread for this viewtopic.php?f=20&t=456798&start=750


Were not discussing election reform though.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:32 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:We have a thread to discuss election reform. This is not the place. This is the thread for this viewtopic.php?f=20&t=456798&start=750


Were not discussing election reform though.

I didnt say we were but you the post was in reply to something you wrote about election reform earlier in the thread.

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