Diversity and Multiculturalism II:Make Diversity Great Again

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Ah. Not sure if I should say thanks since this information sickens me but I do appreciate the correction.

You're welcome

Stuff like this is why a Reform Muslim movement needs to gather up some steam ASAP.

https://legacy.quran.com/33/36

Lashing people for innate genetic differences, how disgusting.

That's not what I said but ok.

Homosexuality is an innate genetic trait (albeit with an associated environmental factor as well) and you seek to lash people for indulging in such acts despite the fact that are natural (i.e. observed in multiple animals in nature) and in line with said genetic trait.

You are not being very convincing here.

[Borinsa]

No they can’t. Because they lost and aren’t in control of the area the United States posesses anynore.

They were here first and where treated more horribly than perhaps any other group. If they don’t have that right who does? The answer then is no one. We a diverse multicultural, melting pot.

We can still atleast try to repair things.
Like paying reparations to the tribes and creating incentive for them to reproduce more.

[Borinsa]

You're welcome

https://legacy.quran.com/33/36

That's not what I said but ok.

Homosexuality is an innate genetic trait (albeit with an associated environmental factor as well) and you seek to lash people for indulging in such acts despite the fact that are natural (i.e. observed in multiple animals in nature) and in line with said genetic trait.

You are not being very convincing here.

He’s a devout Muslim, I don’t think you can reason with him. He probably doesn’t even beleive in genetics.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

No they can’t. Because they lost and aren’t in control of the area the United States posesses anynore.

They were here first and where treated more horribly than perhaps any other group. If they don’t have that right who does? The answer then is no one. We a diverse multicultural, melting pot.

"Melting pot" and "multicultural" (whose slang equivalent would be "salad bowl") are exclusive to eachother.

[Borinsa]

But there were no humans here prior to them.

And? That means that they suddenly own it?

Yes

[Ors Might]

They were here first and where treated more horribly than perhaps any other group. If they don’t have that right who does? The answer then is no one. We a diverse multicultural, melting pot.

We can still atleast try to repair things.
Like paying reparations to the tribes and creating incentive for them to reproduce more.

I’m not entirely opposed to reparations as a concept but I don’t think they’re the best way to go. Personally, I’d be in favor of making them more along the lines of particularly independenf US counties, with all the funding and support that’d imply.

[San Lumen]

How is it not?

What’s the difference

A melting pot is when a dominant culture absorbs the different cultural traditions and perspectives of its people while still remaining a singular culture. You can’t have a melting pot if all the cultures are still separate.

I guess the United States is a melting pot then. Canada too

[Ors Might]

And? That means that they suddenly own it?

Yes

Sucks for them, then, that someone stronger came along and disagreed. It belongs to the US now.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Homosexuality is an innate genetic trait (albeit with an associated environmental factor as well) and you seek to lash people for indulging in such acts despite the fact that are natural (i.e. observed in multiple animals in nature) and in line with said genetic trait.

You are not being very convincing here.

He’s a devout Muslim, I don’t think you can reason with him.

And you're a devout atheist, I don't think I can reason with you.

He probably doesn’t even beleive in genetics.

Well aren't you in for a surprise

[Borinsa]

They were here first and where treated more horribly than perhaps any other group. If they don’t have that right who does? The answer then is no one. We a diverse multicultural, melting pot.

"Melting pot" and "multicultural" (whose slang equivalent would be "salad bowl") are exclusive to eachother.

Correct, for most of its history the United States has been a melting pot.
I don’t think becoming a salad bowl is a good idea...
And example of a Salad bowl nation would be Yugoslavia, Austria-Hungary, The Soviet Union, The British Empire, and The Roman Empire. Most of those nations couldn’t stay together very long or atleast struggled to stay together.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

"Melting pot" and "multicultural" (whose slang equivalent would be "salad bowl") are exclusive to eachother.

Correct, for most of its history the United States has been a melting pot.
I don’t think becoming a salad bowl is a good idea...
And example of a Salad bowl nation would be Yugoslavia, Austria-Hungary, The Soviet Union, The British Empire, and The Roman Empire. Most of those nations couldn’t stay together very long or atleast struggled to stay together.

Nigeria has over 500 different ethnicities within its borders and I haven't heard of any ethnic strife coming from there.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

We can still atleast try to repair things.
Like paying reparations to the tribes and creating incentive for them to reproduce more.

I’m not entirely opposed to reparations as a concept but I don’t think they’re the best way to go. Personally, I’d be in favor of making them more along the lines of particularly independenf US counties, with all the funding and support that’d imply.

I personally feel like investments within their lands, the guarantee of jobs, the intensification of efforts to combat their disproportionately high alcoholism and drug usage rates, and greater incentives for them to reproduce so that they don't die out seem reasonable enough to me.

[San Lumen]

"Melting pot" and "multicultural" (whose slang equivalent would be "salad bowl") are exclusive to eachother.

Correct, for most of its history the United States has been a melting pot.
I don’t think becoming a salad bowl is a good idea...
And example of a Salad bowl nation would be Yugoslavia, Austria-Hungary, The Soviet Union, The British Empire, and The Roman Empire. Most of those nations couldn’t stay together very long or atleast struggled to stay together.

Yugoslavia was never going to stay together very long. That is a Region where different ethnic groups have been at odds for years if not centuries

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Correct, for most of its history the United States has been a melting pot.
I don’t think becoming a salad bowl is a good idea...
And example of a Salad bowl nation would be Yugoslavia, Austria-Hungary, The Soviet Union, The British Empire, and The Roman Empire. Most of those nations couldn’t stay together very long or atleast struggled to stay together.

Yugoslavia was never going to stay together very long. That is a Region where different ethnic groups have been at odds for years if not centuries

Pretty sure it's been centuries.

[Ors Might]

I’m not entirely opposed to reparations as a concept but I don’t think they’re the best way to go. Personally, I’d be in favor of making them more along the lines of particularly independenf US counties, with all the funding and support that’d imply.

I personally feel like investments within their lands, the guarantee of jobs, the intensification of efforts to combat their disproportionately high alcoholism and drug usage rates, and greater incentives for them to reproduce so that they don't die out seem reasonable enough to me.

That would be easier to accomplish if they were under our jurisdiction. People are more willing to help those that they consider their own.

[Alvecia]

"Melting pot" and "multicultural" (whose slang equivalent would be "salad bowl") are exclusive to eachother.

Correct, for most of its history the United States has been a melting pot.
I don’t think becoming a salad bowl is a good idea...
And example of a Salad bowl nation would be Yugoslavia, Austria-Hungary, The Soviet Union, The British Empire, and The Roman Empire. Most of those nations couldn’t stay together very long or atleast struggled to stay together.

Well, the British Empire was a salad bowl in that it had a different bowl for each type of salad.
#justglobalempirethings

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I personally feel like investments within their lands, the guarantee of jobs, the intensification of efforts to combat their disproportionately high alcoholism and drug usage rates, and greater incentives for them to reproduce so that they don't die out seem reasonable enough to me.

That would be easier to accomplish if they were under our jurisdiction. People are more willing to help those that they consider their own.

The tribal autonomy system does make development efforts quite complicated..

[San Lumen]

Yugoslavia was never going to stay together very long. That is a Region where different ethnic groups have been at odds for years if not centuries

Pretty sure it's been centuries.

It probably has been

[Borinsa]

Yes

Sucks for them, then, that someone stronger came along and disagreed. It belongs to the US now.

I bet you have atleast one ancestor who was displaced by another group of people.
For example the celts used to cover most of Western Europe, now they only exist (culturally) in parts of the British isles.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Sucks for them, then, that someone stronger came along and disagreed. It belongs to the US now.

I bet you have atleast one ancestor who was displaced by another group of people.
For example the celts used to cover most of Western Europe, now they only exist (culturally) in parts of the British isles.

And Brittany.

[Ors Might]

That would be easier to accomplish if they were under our jurisdiction. People are more willing to help those that they consider their own.

The tribal autonomy system does make development efforts quite complicated..

It sucks for them but the best way the Natives have of improving involves losing some autonomy.

Sucks for them, then, that someone stronger came along and disagreed. It belongs to the US now.

I bet you have atleast one ancestor who was displaced by another group of people.
For example the celts used to cover most of Western Europe, now they only exist (culturally) in parts of the British isles.

Probably. But I’m not my ancestors. I’m an American.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

The tribal autonomy system does make development efforts quite complicated..

It sucks for them but the best way the Natives have of improving involves losing some autonomy.

I bet you have atleast one ancestor who was displaced by another group of people.
For example the celts used to cover most of Western Europe, now they only exist (culturally) in parts of the British isles.

Probably. But I’m not my ancestors. I’m an American.

Genetically speaking you are your ancestors.

[Borinsa]

Correct, for most of its history the United States has been a melting pot.
I don’t think becoming a salad bowl is a good idea...
And example of a Salad bowl nation would be Yugoslavia, Austria-Hungary, The Soviet Union, The British Empire, and The Roman Empire. Most of those nations couldn’t stay together very long or atleast struggled to stay together.

Nigeria has over 500 different ethnicities within its borders and I haven't heard of any ethnic strife coming from there.

https://www.accord.org.za/ajcr-issues/e ... s-nigeria/
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-03-10/ ... c-conflict

[Freezic Vast]

It sucks for them but the best way the Natives have of improving involves losing some autonomy.


Probably. But I’m not my ancestors. I’m an American.

Genetically speaking you are your ancestors.

But we're not our ancestors.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

The tribal autonomy system does make development efforts quite complicated..

It sucks for them but the best way the Natives have of improving involves losing some autonomy.

I bet you have atleast one ancestor who was displaced by another group of people.
For example the celts used to cover most of Western Europe, now they only exist (culturally) in parts of the British isles.

Probably. But I’m not my ancestors. I’m an American.

Removing a layer of Native autonomy in order to simplify procedures might be a necessary evil, yeah.

It is time for them to integrate into the North American government structure fully while still retaining their culture (along with its means of preservation), languages, and attributed special statuses.