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Kramanica
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Postby Kramanica » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:32 pm

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Kramanica wrote:I mean if you actually pay them decent wages they probably would.

Farms in the South tried that and Guess what no one applied

Then automate or raise wages even more. I don't understand why you claim to be pro-immigrant yet also seem to favor the exploitation of immigrants. A common trend among liberals who try and justify an open-door immigration policy.
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Postby Homeland for Whites » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:34 pm

Diversity means chasing down the last white person.

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:34 pm

Kramanica wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Farms in the South tried that and Guess what no one applied

Then automate or raise wages even more. I don't understand why you claim to be pro-immigrant yet also seem to favor the exploitation of immigrants. A common trend among liberals who try and justify an open-door immigration policy.


Neoliberalism is basically the Gilded Age of the modern day: shit looks good on the surface, but scratch it a bit and you open up the world of migrant pseudo-slavery and third-world plantations forced by western economic policies to continue existing.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:34 pm

Homeland for Whites wrote:Diversity means chasing down the last white person.


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Postby Kramanica » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:35 pm

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Kramanica wrote:Then automate or raise wages even more. I don't understand why you claim to be pro-immigrant yet also seem to favor the exploitation of immigrants. A common trend among liberals who try and justify an open-door immigration policy.


Neoliberalism is basically the Gilded Age of the modern day: shit looks good on the surface, but scratch it a bit and you open up the world of migrant pseudo-slavery and third-world plantations forced by western economic policies to continue existing.

I swear these days I agree with communists more than liberals.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:36 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Neoliberalism is basically the Gilded Age of the modern day: shit looks good on the surface, but scratch it a bit and you open up the world of migrant pseudo-slavery and third-world plantations forced by western economic policies to continue existing.

I swear these days I agree with communists more than liberals.


It's because we (not the authoritarians of course) don't want to oppress people for capital gain, but just love and good feels and a better society for everyone <3
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:37 pm

Torrocca wrote:Neoliberalism is basically the Gilded Age of the modern day: shit looks good on the surface, but scratch it a bit and you open up the world of migrant pseudo-slavery and third-world plantations forced by western economic policies to continue existing.

lol
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:38 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Neoliberalism is basically the Gilded Age of the modern day: shit looks good on the surface, but scratch it a bit and you open up the world of migrant pseudo-slavery and third-world plantations forced by western economic policies to continue existing.

lol


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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:40 pm

Torrocca wrote:o shit u right

Anything else you want to blame on liberalism and the West? Disease, maybe?
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:40 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Torrocca wrote:o shit u right

Anything else you want to blame on liberalism and the West? Disease, maybe?


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Postby Northland Republic » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:01 pm

Homeland for Whites wrote:Diversity means chasing down the last white person.


"Jew will not replace us"- said some white nationalists

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:01 pm

Homeland for Whites wrote:Diversity means chasing down the last white person.

Evidence?
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Postby Geneviev » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:03 pm

Homeland for Whites wrote:Diversity means chasing down the last white person.

No. Where are you getting that information from?
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:03 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Homeland for Whites wrote:Diversity means chasing down the last white person.

Evidence?


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Postby New Emeline » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:06 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Neoliberalism is basically the Gilded Age of the modern day: shit looks good on the surface, but scratch it a bit and you open up the world of migrant pseudo-slavery and third-world plantations forced by western economic policies to continue existing.

I swear these days I agree with communists more than liberals.

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Postby Northland Republic » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:25 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Then automate or raise wages even more. I don't understand why you claim to be pro-immigrant yet also seem to favor the exploitation of immigrants. A common trend among liberals who try and justify an open-door immigration policy.


Neoliberalism is basically the Gilded Age of the modern day: shit looks good on the surface, but scratch it a bit and you open up the world of migrant pseudo-slavery and third-world plantations forced by western economic policies to continue existing.


Neoliberalism is a mental disorder because if the left were truly liberal then they would be more in line with the founding fathers of the US as well as John Locke and company.

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Postby New Emeline » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:26 pm

Northland Republic wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Neoliberalism is basically the Gilded Age of the modern day: shit looks good on the surface, but scratch it a bit and you open up the world of migrant pseudo-slavery and third-world plantations forced by western economic policies to continue existing.


Neoliberalism is a mental disorder because if the left were truly liberal then they would be more in line with the founding fathers of the US as well as John Locke and company.

dude what

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Postby Northland Republic » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:38 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Northland Republic wrote:
Neoliberalism is a mental disorder because if the left were truly liberal then they would be more in line with the founding fathers of the US as well as John Locke and company.

dude what


The left is becoming communist and athoritarian as they will shut down anyone who doesn't think and act the way they do

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Postby Valgora » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:39 pm

Northland Republic wrote:
New Emeline wrote:dude what


The left is becoming communist and athoritarian as they will shut down anyone who doesn't think and act the way they do

The left was socialist/communist/etc.
Neoliberals (and liberals in general) ain't left.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:40 pm

Northland Republic wrote:
New Emeline wrote:dude what


The left is becoming communist and athoritarian as they will shut down anyone who doesn't think and act the way they do

Only a select few and this is not relevant to the topic.

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Postby Ors Might » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:55 pm

Northland Republic wrote:
New Emeline wrote:dude what


The left is becoming communist and athoritarian as they will shut down anyone who doesn't think and act the way they do

Authoritarian? Maybe. Communist? Only if you stretch the meaning to the point of no return and squint a bit. I only call myself some flavor of communist because that’s more or less the most accurate descriptor for the world I want to see. I don’t have much attachment to the label. But trust me when I say that the American Left is not communist.
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Postby Northland Republic » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northland Republic wrote:
The left is becoming communist and athoritarian as they will shut down anyone who doesn't think and act the way they do

Only a select few and this is not relevant to the topic.
Valgora wrote:
Northland Republic wrote:
The left is becoming communist and athoritarian as they will shut down anyone who doesn't think and act the way they do

The left was socialist/communist/etc.
Neoliberals (and liberals in general) ain't left.



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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:57 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Torrocca wrote:o shit u right

Anything else you want to blame on liberalism and the West? Disease, maybe?


Yeah, we're all onto you and your vaccines....

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Postby Northland Republic » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:00 pm

Ors Might wrote:
Northland Republic wrote:
The left is becoming communist and athoritarian as they will shut down anyone who doesn't think and act the way they do

Authoritarian? Maybe. Communist? Only if you stretch the meaning to the point of no return and squint a bit. I only call myself some flavor of communist because that’s more or less the most accurate descriptor for the world I want to see. I don’t have much attachment to the label. But trust me when I say that the American Left is not communist.


Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist would be better words to describe the left, though I'd use Marxist lightly as Karl Marx's brand of socialism/communism was never able to be put into action as Marx died before he could see through or make it a reality

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Postby Norstal » Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kramanica wrote:If they are unskilled then yeah.

Its already very difficult for someone unskilled to get in if I remember correctly

It's already difficult for someone skilled to get in. Choking the immigration system even more is going to make it harder for legal immigrants to get through.
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