Diversity and Multiculturalism II:Make Diversity Great Again

[Eol Sha]

Why is the West demanded to be multicultural and diverse, but the rest of the world is free to remain homogeneous, if they are, and mono-cultural or with cultural hegemony?

It couldn't possibly be because there's an ideological bias against the existence of Western culture and civilisation could it? There couldn't possibly be an agenda to drown Western cultures in those that are blatant inferior morally and socially to our own, simply because we are better than them, and we must be punished for our success?

And here comes the nonsense.

There aren't that many countries in the world that are monocultural or ethnically homogenous. Anti-multiculturalists, to use a nicer than deserved term, just say this because they can't comprehend the idea that people with a similar skin color can't have vastly different cultural practices and traditions.

[Geneviev]

I find diversity not only desirable, but part of what made me who I am. There are only those that know why, and those that don't. I would be honoured to explain to those that don't understand why I am a proponent of diversity and multiculturalism.

Well, you said you'd be honored to say so, so why in fact are you a proponet of these two?

Firstly, every one of my friends has a different background and culture than I do. I have a friend who is Mormon, a friend from Sweden, a friend from Turkey, a friend whose family has been in America since the 16th century, a Native American friend, a black friend, Mexican friends, a Buddist friend... The list can go on for a while. Iearnt something new from each of them. I know about Native American history, Cambodian food, and have seen firsthand what different cultures are like. They taught me to be more accepting of other people and to be more open-minded. I have a close friend who is teaching me about Islam by how she lives her life. Though I can't say anything yet, that most be the most life-changing.

Diversity simply makes things much more interesting. When I was only exposed to white European Protestants, everything was the same all the time. Everyone sounded the same, acted the same, thought the same, felt the same. When I was first exposed to differences, it was uncomfortable and scary at first. As I got used to it, I could experience new things constantly. I kept learning and growing as a person instead of being stagnant because of a lack of opportunities to grow.

Also, diversity can be a great addition to my life. If I had been determined to only associate myself with people like me, I would never had found the great friends I have now. I would still be sitting at a table with people like me who only talk about the impeccable quality of their tea. Instead, I have friends that I know I can trust with my life. Not because of race, religion, culture, or heritage, but because we all love and care about each other as human beings.

On a less serious note, if Germany hadn't taken in so many immigrants, I would not be in a church with them and would never have learnt that I adore Syrian food.

[The Land of the Ephyral]

Why is the West demanded to be multicultural and diverse, but the rest of the world is free to remain homogeneous, if they are, and mono-cultural or with cultural hegemony?

It couldn't possibly be because there's an ideological bias against the existence of Western culture and civilisation could it? There couldn't possibly be an agenda to drown Western cultures in those that are blatant inferior morally and socially to our own, simply because we are better than them, and we must be punished for our success?

And here comes the nonsense.

When was the last time you heard an African nation being told they need to be multicultural and accept some Western ideas and people?

[New Emeline]

So, to any ethnonationalists, do you think all French people should get out of Germany, all Nigerians get out of Kenya, etc? Because if not, you aren't ethnonationalists really. Just racial nationalists.

Nigerians and Kenyans are a far more different group of people than French and Germans.

As far as the cultural existence of nations are concerned, French and Germans would do better to stay in their own countries. Despite the fact that genetically they are almost the exact same people, Europe has been a site of conflict for millennia and the two cultures despise one another.

Nigeria and Kenya have historically lacked much contact, but for the sake of their own preservation, if indeed it is in their interest, they should prevent the formation of a sizeable minority of either group forming, and then pursuing its own interests within the nation they are not from.

And what of mixed race people? Do we just kill them?

[Eol Sha]

And here comes the nonsense.

When was the last time you heard an African nation being told they need to be multicultural and accept some Western ideas?

South Africa? Mali? Nigeria? Any country with a dictator we say should step down in favor of the implementation of democracy, freedom of religion, etc.?

This isn't hard.

[The Parkus Empire]

And here comes the nonsense.

When was the last time you heard an African nation being told they need to be multicultural and accept some Western ideas?

Do you even South Africa

[New Emeline]

And here comes the nonsense.

When was the last time you heard an African nation being told they need to be multicultural and accept some Western ideas and people?

Any time a Western power has intervened.
You speak as if there is no Western influence but there is. There are Europeans living in African countries, Asian ones, South American ones....

[The Land of the Ephyral]

When was the last time you heard an African nation being told they need to be multicultural and accept some Western ideas?

South Africa? Mali? Nigeria? Any country with a dictator we say should step down in favor of the implementation of democracy, freedom of religion, etc.?

This isn't hard.

South Africa, Mali, and Nigeria are not dictatorships.

But as it happens South Africa is committing genocide against whites. No one seems too upset.

[Conserative Morality]

>> tfw non-sex crime has actually dropped since 2000
>> tfw Sweden has been involved in redefining rape and sex crimes to be inclusive and trying to encourage people to come out instead of not reporting it like in other countries
>> tfw the skyrocketing recordings of sex crimes happened long before 2014

Migration predates 2014.

Migration from 2010 to 2016 doubled the foreign-born population. According to your theory, especially considering the small foreign-born population before 2014, most of whom were fellow Euros, crime should've skyrocketed in that time.

[New Emeline]

South Africa? Mali? Nigeria? Any country with a dictator we say should step down in favor of the implementation of democracy, freedom of religion, etc.?

This isn't hard.

South Africa, Mali, and Nigeria are not dictatorships.

But as it happens South Africa is committing genocide against whites. No one seems too upset.

Actually, there's an entire thread dedicated to that.
People do care, you just don't want to notice because it doesn't suit your "everyone is out to get me" narrative.

[Conserative Morality]

When was the last time you heard an African nation being told they need to be multicultural and accept some Western ideas and people?

... constantly?

I follow several African news sites and constantly check up on the BBC's African news and keep tabs on the South Sudan situation. I have an appreciation for Ethiopia and hope for Somalia.

African countries are constantly adopting, and being told to adopt, Western ideas and people.

[The Land of the Ephyral]

Nigerians and Kenyans are a far more different group of people than French and Germans.

As far as the cultural existence of nations are concerned, French and Germans would do better to stay in their own countries. Despite the fact that genetically they are almost the exact same people, Europe has been a site of conflict for millennia and the two cultures despise one another.

Nigeria and Kenya have historically lacked much contact, but for the sake of their own preservation, if indeed it is in their interest, they should prevent the formation of a sizeable minority of either group forming, and then pursuing its own interests within the nation they are not from.

And what of mixed race people? Do we just kill them?

Ah yes. Because I all I clearly want to do is kill people.

[New Emeline]

And what of mixed race people? Do we just kill them?

Ah yes. Because I all I clearly want to do is kill people.

In a system where every country is an ethnostate, there would be no place for mixed race people. It is simply the logical conclusion of your ideology.

[Eol Sha]

South Africa? Mali? Nigeria? Any country with a dictator we say should step down in favor of the implementation of democracy, freedom of religion, etc.?

This isn't hard.

South Africa, Mali, and Nigeria are not dictatorships.

But as it happens South Africa is committing genocide against whites. No one seems too upset.

They were in the past? You can't seriously be this dense.

As an example, Nigeria's constitution is designed to respect the dozens upon dozens of different ethnic and religious groups that suddenly found themselves hemmed into this previously non-existent state.

[The Land of the Ephyral]

South Africa, Mali, and Nigeria are not dictatorships.

But as it happens South Africa is committing genocide against whites. No one seems too upset.

Actually, there's an entire thread dedicated to that.
People do care, you just don't want to notice because it doesn't suit your "everyone is out to get me" narrative.

No. I just don't come on NSG often. I wasn't looking for it. I wasn't even talking about NS. And I didn't really go past the first page.

[Conserative Morality]

Ah yes. Because I all I clearly want to do is kill people.

What place would they have? You discuss 'preventing' the formation of a sizable minority of either group forming. Presumably that means deportation. What of the products of miscegenation? Shouldn't both countries regard them as outsiders according to this theory? What other solution would there be?

[New Emeline]

Ah yes. Because I all I clearly want to do is kill people.

What place would they have? You discuss 'preventing' the formation of a sizable minority of either group forming. Presumably that means deportation. What of the products of miscegenation? Shouldn't both countries regard them as outsiders according to this theory? What other solution would there be?

As I said, killing is the only logical conclusion to that ideology.

[The Land of the Ephyral]

South Africa, Mali, and Nigeria are not dictatorships.

But as it happens South Africa is committing genocide against whites. No one seems too upset.

They were in the past? You can't seriously be this dense.

As an example, Nigeria's constitution is designed to respect the dozens upon dozens of different ethnic and religious groups that suddenly found themselves hemmed into this previously non-existent state.

And does it work? No.

We go on and on about how we drew up terrible borders in Africa and the Middle East, with no regards towards ethnic or religious groups, and that's why these nations fail. Yet we continue to say that diversity is our strength. The two statements cannot both be true.

[Eol Sha]

When was the last time you heard an African nation being told they need to be multicultural and accept some Western ideas and people?

... constantly?

I follow several African news sites and constantly check up on the BBC's African news and keep tabs on the South Sudan situation. I have an appreciation for Ethiopia and hope for Somalia.

African countries are constantly adopting, and being told to adopt, Western ideas and people.

One wonders how well the socialist government of Ethiopia faired.

[The Land of the Ephyral]

What place would they have? You discuss 'preventing' the formation of a sizable minority of either group forming. Presumably that means deportation. What of the products of miscegenation? Shouldn't both countries regard them as outsiders according to this theory? What other solution would there be?

As I said, killing is the only logical conclusion to that ideology.

You don't understand that ideology then, do you?

[Eol Sha]

They were in the past? You can't seriously be this dense.

As an example, Nigeria's constitution is designed to respect the dozens upon dozens of different ethnic and religious groups that suddenly found themselves hemmed into this previously non-existent state.

And does it work? No.

We go on and on about how we drew up terrible borders in Africa and the Middle East, with no regards towards ethnic or religious groups, and that's why these nations fail. Yet we continue to say that diversity is our strength. The two statements cannot be true.

Neither Nigeria nor South Africa are failing states. Most states in Africa are not failing states. I'm not saying they're bastions of stability either, mind you.

[New Emeline]

As I said, killing is the only logical conclusion to that ideology.

You don't understand that ideology then, do you?

Answer this then: What happens to the mixed race people that will inevitably exist from before your perfect little ethnostate is created? And the ones that will inevitably be born afterwards?

[San Lumen]

You have proof of any of those claims?

One can examine the rising crime rates in Sweden ever since the introduction of different peoples some decades ago, which have shot up recently since 2014 (migrant crisis), particularly in sex crime.

Similar patterns can also be seen across Germany and Britain.



Or you can look into the study conducted by Robert Putnam published in 2007, as touched on by this article.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -distrust/

And if you require any more proof I would simply suggest you look at history and find me one example of a society that prospered beyond the average 250 year lifespan of greatness that empires tend to exhibit as determined by Sir John Glubb, and did so on the basis of being multicultural, tolerant, and diverse, as opposed to the empires that ruled firmly and with one culture above others.

But I would also ask of you to tell me why living in a society where the culture of the people who created it is suppressed to facilitate the cultures of people who did not is preferable, when in the home societies of those same people, no such accommodation is made for us in return.

Why is the West demanded to be multicultural and diverse, but the rest of the world is free to remain homogeneous, if they are, and mono-cultural or with cultural hegemony?

It couldn't possibly be because there's an ideological bias against the existence of Western culture and civilisation could it? There couldn't possibly be an agenda to drown Western cultures in those that are blatant inferior morally and socially to our own, simply because we are better than them, and we must be punished for our success?

Australia is a multicultural country too. There is no demand for the west to be multicultural and diverse. And there is no agenda or conspiracy as you imply.

What makes you better than someone from Lebanon or Morocco?

[The Land of the Ephyral]

You don't understand that ideology then, do you?

Answer this then: What happens to the mixed race people that will inevitably exist from before your perfect little ethnostate is created? And the ones that will inevitably be born afterwards?

Well first of all, there won't be ones born afterwards. That's one of the results of an ethnostate.

Two, I've never claimed to be an ethnonationalist, so they probably have a number of ideas on how to deal with this situation.

Three, I would personally just deport them with the others if the ethnostate was my motivation and goal.

[The Land of the Ephyral]

One can examine the rising crime rates in Sweden ever since the introduction of different peoples some decades ago, which have shot up recently since 2014 (migrant crisis), particularly in sex crime.

Similar patterns can also be seen across Germany and Britain.

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Or you can look into the study conducted by Robert Putnam published in 2007, as touched on by this article.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -distrust/

And if you require any more proof I would simply suggest you look at history and find me one example of a society that prospered beyond the average 250 year lifespan of greatness that empires tend to exhibit as determined by Sir John Glubb, and did so on the basis of being multicultural, tolerant, and diverse, as opposed to the empires that ruled firmly and with one culture above others.

But I would also ask of you to tell me why living in a society where the culture of the people who created it is suppressed to facilitate the cultures of people who did not is preferable, when in the home societies of those same people, no such accommodation is made for us in return.

Why is the West demanded to be multicultural and diverse, but the rest of the world is free to remain homogeneous, if they are, and mono-cultural or with cultural hegemony?

It couldn't possibly be because there's an ideological bias against the existence of Western culture and civilisation could it? There couldn't possibly be an agenda to drown Western cultures in those that are blatant inferior morally and socially to our own, simply because we are better than them, and we must be punished for our success?

Australia is a multicultural country too. There is no demand for the west to be multicultural and diverse. And there is no agenda or conspiracy as you imply.

What makes you better than someone from Lebanon or Morocco?

I don't cut off girls' clits.

Also,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/s ... it/9297984