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The Land of the Ephyral
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:52 pm

Diversity is undesirable. Multiculturalism is undesirable.

There are only those that know why, and those that don't.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:52 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:No, it's found throughout the Pacific including in Australia

I guess this means that, in addition to America not having any culture, America has made sure no one else has any culture, since just about every cultural tradition has been appropriated by America. :)
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:52 pm

Music isn't culture if you're not the one singing it
Movies aren't culture
Literature isn't culture
Food isn't culture
What is????

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Postby New Emeline » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:53 pm

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:Diversity is undesirable. Multiculturalism is undesirable.

There are only those that know why, and those that don't.

"Everyone that disagrees with me is stupid" is a great way to open your argument.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:53 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:No, of course I was being ironic. There is nothing "American" about the Napoleonic Code.

And there's nothing Louisianian about it either, apparently. Unless you're special pleading here, as you so constantly do to defend your absurd claims. :)

There is insofar as Louisiana has and always had a lot of non-American elements. It's a state, but also very distinct from America in the way some of our territories are.
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New Emeline wrote:Music isn't culture if you're not the one singing it
Movies aren't culture
Literature isn't culture
Food isn't culture
What is????

Being white
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The Parkus Empire wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:And there's nothing Louisianian about it either, apparently. Unless you're special pleading here, as you so constantly do to defend your absurd claims. :)

There is insofar as Louisiana has and always had a lot of non-American elements. It's a state, but also very distinct from America in the way some of our territories are.

But America doesn't have culture, remember? So what American elements could any state have? Every state is just made up of non-American elements, remember? :)
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Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:No, it's found throughout the Pacific including in Australia

I guess this means that, in addition to America not having any culture, America has made sure no one else has any culture, since just about every cultural tradition has been appropriated by America. :)

Surfing is culture.

Watching cartoon penguins do it, is not.
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:54 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I guess this means that, in addition to America not having any culture, America has made sure no one else has any culture, since just about every cultural tradition has been appropriated by America. :)

Surfing is culture.

Watching cartoon penguins do it, is not.

Who here mentioned cartoon penguins?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:55 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Surfing is culture.

Watching cartoon penguins do it, is not.

Never been to the east coast, I see.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:55 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I guess this means that, in addition to America not having any culture, America has made sure no one else has any culture, since just about every cultural tradition has been appropriated by America. :)

Surfing is culture.

Watching cartoon penguins do it, is not.

Surf's Up is a great movie, don't pretend it's not.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:55 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:Surfing is culture.

Watching cartoon penguins do it, is not.

Who here mentioned cartoon penguins?

Parkus believes that surfing does not exist outside of the Pacific, apparently.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:55 pm

New Emeline wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Surfing is culture.

Watching cartoon penguins do it, is not.

Who here mentioned cartoon penguins?

As far as I can tell, Parkus.

Yeah, they're the only one.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:56 pm

New haven america wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Surfing is culture.

Watching cartoon penguins do it, is not.

Surf's Up is a great movie, don't pretend it's not.

Parkus doesn't like moving pictures; double for talkies. They're not culture.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:56 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:There is insofar as Louisiana has and always had a lot of non-American elements. It's a state, but also very distinct from America in the way some of our territories are.

But America doesn't have culture, remember? So what American elements could any state have? Every state is just made up of non-American elements, remember? :)

Yankee culture basically perished in the Industrial Revolution, sadly. To an extent you are correct, example that there is a lot of Mexican culture in California, but not really any "Californian culture"
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Postby The Land of the Ephyral » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:56 pm

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The Land of the Ephyral wrote:Diversity is undesirable. Multiculturalism is undesirable.

There are only those that know why, and those that don't.

"Everyone that disagrees with me is stupid" is a great way to open your argument.


Diversity causes tension and conflict.

Nation's require a solid cultural base.

This has been true throughout all of history, it's why we formed nations in the first place.

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Postby Albrenia » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:56 pm

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:Diversity is undesirable. Multiculturalism is undesirable.

There are only those that know why, and those that don't.


Sounds like some sort of weird zen Tumblr post. :lol:

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:56 pm

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:Diversity is undesirable. Multiculturalism is undesirable.

There are only those that know why, and those that don't.

What's wrong with diversity?
Pro: (Pan-)Islamism--Palestine--RBG--Choice to an extent--Giving land back to Native Americans--East--Afrika--etc.
Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:56 pm

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
New Emeline wrote:"Everyone that disagrees with me is stupid" is a great way to open your argument.


Diversity causes tension and conflict.

Nation's require a solid cultural base.

This has been true throughout all of history, it's why we formed nations in the first place.

That's why we formed nations in the first place, in the 19th century?
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Postby New haven america » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:57 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Who here mentioned cartoon penguins?

Parkus believes that surfing does not exist outside of the Pacific, apparently.

Anyone want to inform him that it's generally believed the largest wave ever surfed was in Portugal?
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:58 pm

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:
New Emeline wrote:"Everyone that disagrees with me is stupid" is a great way to open your argument.


Diversity causes tension and conflict.

Every single time?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:58 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Yankee culture basically perished in the Industrial Revolution, sadly.

So less than ten years after the US was formed. One might think that such a culture was never 'American', then.
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:59 pm

The Land of the Ephyral wrote:Diversity is undesirable. Multiculturalism is undesirable.

There are only those that know why, and those that don't.

I find diversity not only desirable, but part of what made me who I am. There are only those that know why, and those that don't. I would be honoured to explain to those that don't understand why I am a proponent of diversity and multiculturalism.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:59 pm

New Emeline wrote:Music isn't culture if you're not the one singing it
Movies aren't culture
Literature isn't culture
Food isn't culture
What is????

Someone singing is culture if you are participating, even as a listener. That is an interaction. Listening to a recording isn't

Literature is not culture until it is shared socially.

Food can be cultural, but food in itself obviously isn't, or else bugs have culture, since they eat
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Postby New Emeline » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:00 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
New Emeline wrote:Music isn't culture if you're not the one singing it
Movies aren't culture
Literature isn't culture
Food isn't culture
What is????

Someone singing is culture if you are participating, even as a listener. That is an interaction. Listening to a recording isn't

Literature is not culture until it is shared socially.

Food can be cultural, but food in itself obviously isn't, or else bugs have culture, since they eat

Concerts still exist, book clubs exist, and yet America somehow still doesn't have culture.

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