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Funeral Strippers

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:17 pm
by Galloism
China wages war on funeral strippers

China has launched its latest crackdown against a phenomenon which just won't seem to die in rural areas - funeral strippers.

The Ministry of Culture said last month that it was targeting "striptease" and other "obscene, pornographic, and vulgar performances" at funerals, weddings and traditional Chinese New Year public gatherings.

The war on strippers at funerals has been a long one for China. Authorities first began clamping down on "obscene" performances in 2006 and launched a second campaign in 2015.

The latest is focused on 19 cities across four provinces, Henan, Anhui, Jiangsu and Hebei, a statement on the website of the Ministry of Culture said.

Some communities in rural China reportedly believe that bigger attendances at funerals help to honour the dead and bring them good fortune.

But some experts say the erotic shows pay tribute to fertility.

"According to the interpretation of cultural anthropology, the fete is originated from the worship of reproduction," media professor Kuang Haiyan said, according to The Global Times. "Therefore the erotic performance at the funeral is just a cultural atavism."

Reports say the new campaign involves people being offered financial rewards to contact a special "hotline" to report "funeral misdeeds".

Media has often blamed the shows on the increasing decadence and materialism of Chinese families, as the country opens up the West.

"In recent decades," the Global Times said on Tuesday, "Chinese rural households are more inclined to show off their disposable incomes by paying out several times their annual income for actors, singers, comedians, and - most recently, strippers - to comfort the bereaved and entertain the mourners."

Xinhua news agency said in 2015 that exotic performances highlight "the trappings of modern life in China, whereby vanity and snobbery prevail over traditions.


I’m attending the wrong funerals. It’s not really how we think of funerals in the West (and why not), but this seems to be a bit of a tradition the Chinese government is trying to end. What else can you expect from an autocratic society though?

What say ye, masses of NSG?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:18 pm
by Internationalist Bastard
Well there goes my plan
Both for employment and my funeral

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:19 pm
by The Parkus Empire
Doesn't sound traditional from the article, more like a recent gimmick

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:20 pm
by Galloism
The Parkus Empire wrote:Doesn't sound traditional from the article, more like a recent gimmick

I mean, they’ve been trying to crack down for over a decade. I have traditions younger than that.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:23 pm
by Risottia
I really don't know why it should be the gov'ts business if someone hires strippers for a funeral (as long as no minors are present and taxes are paid).

Oh well. China. I'm sure their main problem is strippers at funerals.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:26 pm
by Internationalist Bastard
Lagomorph Supreme wrote:Good. This crack down is highly supported by me.

Why?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:26 pm
by Galloism
Lagomorph Supreme wrote:Good. This crack down is highly supported by me.

Any reason?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:26 pm
by The Parkus Empire
Galloism wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Doesn't sound traditional from the article, more like a recent gimmick

I mean, they’ve been trying to crack down for over a decade. I have traditions younger than that.


No you don't. Tradition is a generational thing, not an idiosyncracy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:27 pm
by Neanderthaland
*Mandatory joke about being "stiff"*

Moving on: sure, why not? If that's what the dead guy wants and no one gets hurt.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:29 pm
by Internationalist Bastard
The Parkus Empire wrote:
Galloism wrote:I mean, they’ve been trying to crack down for over a decade. I have traditions younger than that.


No you don't. Tradition is a generational thing, not an idiosyncracy

Clearly you don’t understand my households grand tradition of Starship Troopers Christmas

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:30 pm
by Galloism
The Parkus Empire wrote:
Galloism wrote:I mean, they’ve been trying to crack down for over a decade. I have traditions younger than that.


No you don't. Tradition is a generational thing, not an idiosyncracy

A tradition can also be be established within a single generation:

a : an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (such as a religious practice or a social custom)

...

: characteristic manner, method, or style in the best liberal tradition


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tradition

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:30 pm
by Internationalist Bastard
Lagomorph Supreme wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
No you don't. Tradition is a generational thing, not an idiosyncracy
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Why?


Unless the dead man chose it that is. Funeral strippers are sick, ugh.

Eh it’s whatever
I’ve seen worst taste, no reason to waste effort cracking down

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:33 pm
by Galloism
Lagomorph Supreme wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
No you don't. Tradition is a generational thing, not an idiosyncracy
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Why?


Unless the dead man chose it that is. Funeral strippers are sick, ugh.

They probably would, since culturally big funerals are considered to honor the dead, and it’s very rare for strippers to make less people show up at <event>.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:34 pm
by The Parkus Empire
Galloism wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
No you don't. Tradition is a generational thing, not an idiosyncracy

A tradition can also be be established within a single generation:

a : an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (such as a religious practice or a social custom)

...

: characteristic manner, method, or style in the best liberal tradition


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tradition


But it's not idiosyncracy

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:35 pm
by Neanderthaland
The Parkus Empire wrote:
Galloism wrote:A tradition can also be be established within a single generation:



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tradition


But it's not idiosyncracy

This is an awfully pedantic little detour we've taken.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:35 pm
by Internationalist Bastard
Lagomorph Supreme wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Eh it’s whatever
I’ve seen worst taste, no reason to waste effort cracking down

I've seen worst too. Example:
Image

See
Let people do whatever

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:35 pm
by Galloism
The Parkus Empire wrote:
Galloism wrote:A tradition can also be be established within a single generation:



https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tradition


But it's not idiosyncracy

So?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:37 pm
by The Parkus Empire
Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Lagomorph Supreme wrote:I've seen worst too. Example:
Image

See
Let people do whatever

Because...?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:39 pm
by Neanderthaland
The Parkus Empire wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:See
Let people do whatever

Because...?

I thought you believed in small government?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:40 pm
by Galloism
Lagomorph Supreme wrote:
Galloism wrote:They probably would, since culturally big funerals are considered to honor the dead, and it’s very rare for strippers to make less people show up at <event>.

That's sad. Dude needs strippers so people would give a shit about his death.

See, I view it like going to a bank. I go to the bank occasionally. I need to. I would go more often if they had strippers at the ba...

I just had a great idea.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:41 pm
by The Parkus Empire
Neanderthaland wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
But it's not idiosyncracy

This is an awfully pedantic little detour we've taken.

It's not a pedantic detour at all. The Chinese government is cracking down on a fad which is really not traditional practice. But it's represented as the Chinese government attacking "Chinese tradition".

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:43 pm
by Neanderthaland
The Parkus Empire wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:This is an awfully pedantic little detour we've taken.

It's not a pedantic detour at all. The Chinese government is cracking down on a fad which is really not traditional practice. But it's represented as the Chinese government attacking "Chinese tradition".

Would you suddenly be okay with it if it was traditional?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:46 pm
by Galloism
The Parkus Empire wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:This is an awfully pedantic little detour we've taken.

It's not a pedantic detour at all. The Chinese government is cracking down on a fad which is really not traditional practice. But it's represented as the Chinese government attacking "Chinese tradition".

Multigenerational makes it tradition right?

It’s been going on for 40 years or so. That means children are now carrying on the tradition created by their parents. That’s generational and therefore a tradition.

https://www.whatsonweibo.com/chinas-fun ... tradition/

Also, Tung Hsiang just became my personal hero.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:48 pm
by The Parkus Empire
Neanderthaland wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Because...?

I thought you believed in small government?


If by small government you mean the central government. Not sure how that factors here, though, as older U.S. governments were both smaller and less libertarian

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:48 pm
by Olthar
What gives? America is supposed to be the multicultural melting pot. Why haven't we yet acquired this great and noble tradition? Give us funeral strippers!