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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:49 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It's not a pedantic detour at all. The Chinese government is cracking down on a fad which is really not traditional practice. But it's represented as the Chinese government attacking "Chinese tradition".

Would you suddenly be okay with it if it was traditional?

It's a Chinese issue and not really my place or concern.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:50 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:I thought you believed in small government?


If by small government you mean the central government. Not sure how that factors here, though, as older U.S. governments were both smaller and less libertarian

Well because you seem to be suggesting that the government should be so overreaching as to have some kind of regulatory commission to monitor the cultural sensitivity of individual's funerals.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:51 pm

Lagomorph Supreme wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It's not a pedantic detour at all. The Chinese government is cracking down on a fad which is really not traditional practice. But it's represented as the Chinese government attacking "Chinese tradition".

Cannibalism was also traditional in Africa, does that mean it should continue?

They should be Christians ideally. But I wouldn't favor imposing it on them through imperialism
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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:52 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Would you suddenly be okay with it if it was traditional?

It's a Chinese issue and not really my place or concern.

So you don't care if they do it or not, but you're being very pedantic about the presentation of the article because...?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:54 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:
If by small government you mean the central government. Not sure how that factors here, though, as older U.S. governments were both smaller and less libertarian

Well because you seem to be suggesting that the government should be so overreaching as to have some kind of regulatory commission to monitor the cultural sensitivity of individual's funerals.

That depends entirely on the people. I don't hold any ideology in terms of some ideal political or economic system for the whole planet in every time
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:57 pm

Good.

I wouldn’t want naked people at my funeral. I support China on this.

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Postby Olthar » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:57 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Lagomorph Supreme wrote:Cannibalism was also traditional in Africa, does that mean it should continue?

They should be Christians ideally. But I wouldn't favor imposing it on them through imperialism

Are you implying that cannibalism is a religion or that Christianity is a diet?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:58 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:It's a Chinese issue and not really my place or concern.

So you don't care if they do it or not, but you're being very pedantic about the presentation of the article because...?

I am objecting to the presentation of this as stepping on "Chinese tradition" because tradition is a loaded term and is not being used with circumspection here. It's used to present this fad as something important to or part of Chinese culture, when really it's a hedonist fad
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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:58 pm

Olthar wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:They should be Christians ideally. But I wouldn't favor imposing it on them through imperialism

Are you implying that cannibalism is a religion or that Christianity is a diet?

Christianity is sort of a diet.

In that it involves pretend cannibalism.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:59 pm

Olthar wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:They should be Christians ideally. But I wouldn't favor imposing it on them through imperialism

Are you implying that cannibalism is a religion or that Christianity is a diet?

What is Holy Communion
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:59 pm

Lagomorph Supreme wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Good.

I wouldn’t want naked people at my funeral. I support China on this.

But what if they wear bra's though?


I would understand this to be disrespectful

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Postby Galloism » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:01 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:So you don't care if they do it or not, but you're being very pedantic about the presentation of the article because...?

I am objecting to the presentation of this as stepping on "Chinese tradition" because tradition is a loaded term and is not being used with circumspection here. It's used to present this fad as something important to or part of Chinese culture, when really it's a hedonist fad

Is a multigenerational 40 year old practice a fad?
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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:01 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
Olthar wrote:Are you implying that cannibalism is a religion or that Christianity is a diet?

Christianity is sort of a diet.

In that it involves pretend cannibalism.

You mean our own muscle when we fast for a bit too long?

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Postby Galloism » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:02 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:Good.

I wouldn’t want naked people at my funeral. I support China on this.

Because you don’t want it so no one should have it?
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Postby Olthar » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:02 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Olthar wrote:Are you implying that cannibalism is a religion or that Christianity is a diet?

What is Holy Communion

Your guess is as good as mine; I'm not Christain, either.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:03 am

Galloism wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:I am objecting to the presentation of this as stepping on "Chinese tradition" because tradition is a loaded term and is not being used with circumspection here. It's used to present this fad as something important to or part of Chinese culture, when really it's a hedonist fad

Is a multigenerational 40 year old practice a fad?

In China? Yes, forty years is a fad.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:03 am

The Underground Movement Union wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Christianity is sort of a diet.

In that it involves pretend cannibalism.

You mean our own muscle when we fast for a bit too long?

I was referring to the ritualistic eating of flesh and drinking of blood.

But... whatever you're into.
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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:05 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Underground Movement Union wrote:You mean our own muscle when we fast for a bit too long?

I was referring to the ritualistic eating of flesh and drinking of blood.

But... whatever you're into.

Oh.

By the way, fair warning if anyone ever tries, the bread tastes like crap. The grape juice is great though

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Postby Galloism » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:06 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Galloism wrote:Is a multigenerational 40 year old practice a fad?

In China? Yes, forty years is a fad.

but you told me needing to be multigenerational was the key to what is a tradition. Were you mistaken?
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Postby Olthar » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:06 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
The Underground Movement Union wrote:You mean our own muscle when we fast for a bit too long?

I was referring to the ritualistic eating of flesh and drinking of blood.

But... whatever you're into.

So, Christians venerate the instrument that killed their savior and then pretend to eat his body. That sounds like what either a serial killer or really creepy girlfriend would do.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:07 am

Galloism wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Good.

I wouldn’t want naked people at my funeral. I support China on this.

Because you don’t want it so no one should have it?


In this case, yes.

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Postby Galloism » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:07 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Galloism wrote:Because you don’t want it so no one should have it?


In this case, yes.

Sweet. I don’t want television shows that feature dragons.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:10 am

Galloism wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
In this case, yes.

Sweet. I don’t want television shows that feature dragons.

Hey! Avatar was a great show!
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Postby Galloism » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:10 am

Olthar wrote:
Galloism wrote:Sweet. I don’t want television shows that feature dragons.

Hey! Avatar was a great show!

I don’t want it so you can’t have it.

In this case.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:12 am

Galloism wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:In China? Yes, forty years is a fad.

but you told me needing to be multigenerational was the key to what is a tradition. Were you mistaken?

I told you tradition is a generational thing and you were talking about an idiosyncracy. I didn't say generational commonality is the sole key, else AIDS would be a tradition
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