Iceland To Ban Male Circumcision

[The Alma Mater]

I'm still waiting for why it's ok to force a child to undergo a circumcision without their consent, but doing it to my neighbor when he's asleep is a crime.

The same reason giving your child a spanking is allowed but doing so to your neighbor is not.

When did spanking a child become legal again ?

[The Parkus Empire]

The same reason giving your child a spanking is allowed but doing so to your neighbor is not.

When did spanking a child become legal again ?

It was never illegal

[Jebslund]

I'm still waiting for why it's ok to force a child to undergo a circumcision without their consent, but doing it to my neighbor when he's asleep is a crime.

The same reason giving your child a spanking is allowed but doing so to your neighbor is not.

So... Circumcision is a punishment for misbehavior, then? Because spanking your child just because they're there to spank (as opposed to doing so as corrective action for misbehavior) is pretty much universally considered abuse.

[Alvecia]

Why is there such a discussion on the matter? No, you may not cut off a part of your baby. End of story.

Unless you're Jewish, then you can

How discriminatory

[Ostroeuropa]

I'm still waiting for why it's ok to force a child to undergo a circumcision without their consent, but doing it to my neighbor when he's asleep is a crime.

The same reason giving your child a spanking is allowed but doing so to your neighbor is not.

Spanking is banned in the UK, which makes the circumcision thing even more incoherent. The "Reasonability" exception for spanking has, in practice, been reduced to "never" by evolving standards. Presumably that exemption might come into effect during outlier cases where physically restraining or attacking your child prevents greater harm due to them trying to win a darwin award.

[Katganistan]

I'm still waiting for why it's ok to force a child to undergo a circumcision without their consent, but doing it to my neighbor when he's asleep is a crime.

I already told you that.

Why is it assault in one case and NOT assault on someone who is helpless to prevent you, and cannot consent?

[Katganistan]

"Do we really want Jews around?"

Do we?

Yes, we do.

We just don't want circumcision performed on people who can't consent to it.

[Katganistan]

I'm still waiting for why it's ok to force a child to undergo a circumcision without their consent, but doing it to my neighbor when he's asleep is a crime.

The same reason giving your child a spanking is allowed but doing so to your neighbor is not.

Mmm, I dunno. Give a kid a spanking and you're likely to receive a visit from child services.

[Luminesa]

The same reason giving your child a spanking is allowed but doing so to your neighbor is not.

Mmm, I dunno. Give a kid a spanking and you're likely to receive a visit from child services.

I mean, if you smack them on the butt once to get them to stop doing something, after having been told multiple times not to do something, that’s not child abuse. If you take out the belt and just start hitting them until they turn purple, that’s definitely something to show to CPS.

I don’t like spanking myself, nor do I advocate it, but if the parent just whaps a kid on the butt once, for misbehavior, that’s not quite child abuse.

[Ifreann]

I'm still waiting for why it's ok to force a child to undergo a circumcision without their consent, but doing it to my neighbor when he's asleep is a crime.

The same reason giving your child a spanking is allowed but doing so to your neighbor is not.

Won't someone please think of the children?

[Lockdownn]

Being circumcized I can't, ahem, see an equivilance here. Neither can you, since consensual circumcision you surely have no problem with, but would probably object strongly to consensual blinding

The thing is, you can live without either. My point is that mutilating for no medical necessity is illogical. An argument for circumcision is that it prevents infection; how would it not be the same to remove an eye for the possibility of infection as well?

People who support circumcision, please rebut this. ^

[Luminesa]

The thing is, you can live without either. My point is that mutilating for no medical necessity is illogical. An argument for circumcision is that it prevents infection; how would it not be the same to remove an eye for the possibility of infection as well?

People who support circumcision, please rebut this. ^

Why do you have to bump your post? Do you really think your argument is that different from what anyone else has been saying?

[Lockdownn]

People who support circumcision, please rebut this. ^

Why do you have to bump your post? Do you really think your argument is that different from what anyone else has been saying?

I think that with that excuse that you've decided to give up on your stance, no?

[Dylar]

Why do you have to bump your post? Do you really think your argument is that different from what anyone else has been saying?

I think that with that excuse that you've decided to give up on your stance, no?

...wat?

[Lockdownn]

I think that with that excuse that you've decided to give up on your stance, no?

...wat?

If you come up with an excuse not to argue points made, you obviously lack interest in supporting your claim.

[Hirota]

The same reason giving your child a spanking is allowed but doing so to your neighbor is not.

Mmm, I dunno. Give a kid a spanking and you're likely to receive a visit from child services.

Cut them and you probably will too. Unless you are an old bearded jewish guy, apparently. Then you get to cut them and get a little sip of Blood plasma too.

[Luminesa]

Why do you have to bump your post? Do you really think your argument is that different from what anyone else has been saying?

I think that with that excuse that you've decided to give up on your stance, no?

...Pardon? I was just asking a question. I’m neutral on the issue. Why are you bumping your post?

[Luminesa]

...wat?

If you come up with an excuse not to argue points made, you obviously lack interest in supporting your claim.

What claim? I wasn’t going to answer your post, I was asking why you felt a need to bump it.

[The Alma Mater]

When did spanking a child become legal again ?

It was never illegal

It is in Iceland (as well as about 40 other countries). Which is the country the ban on circumcision is now law..

[Cekoviu]

It was never illegal

It is in Iceland (as well as about 40 other countries). Which is the country the ban on circumcision is now law..

I think Sweden, too. And since Iceland and Sweden ban it, it's probably also illegal in Germany, Norway, Denmark, and maybe Finland. Though that's just extrapolation.

[The Alma Mater]

It is in Iceland (as well as about 40 other countries). Which is the country the ban on circumcision is now law..

I think Sweden, too. And since Iceland and Sweden ban it, it's probably also illegal in Germany, Norway, Denmark, and maybe Finland. Though that's just extrapolation.

All correct. Most civilised countries in fact.

[Cekoviu]

I think Sweden, too. And since Iceland and Sweden ban it, it's probably also illegal in Germany, Norway, Denmark, and maybe Finland. Though that's just extrapolation.

All correct. Most civilised countries in fact.

That makes sense. The US tends to be slightly behind other Western countries in a lot of aspects, though definitely not military strength and percentage of population who support right-wing populism.

[Fartsniffage]

The same reason giving your child a spanking is allowed but doing so to your neighbor is not.

Won't someone please think of the children?

Is this how a forum get Jmmy Seville's? I think this how a forum get Jmmy Seville's.....

[Estlobies]

This is a good first step to outlawing religion - outlaw the more outlandish components first, then continually move towards total eradication. I'm also quite glad that Iceland, a country known for being excellent in most every measure, is doing this. It seems like a good symbol for the international community.

[Camicon]

This is a good first step to outlawing religion - outlaw the more outlandish components first, then continually move towards total eradication. I'm also quite glad that Iceland, a country known for being excellent in most every measure, is doing this. It seems like a good symbol for the international community.

No thanks. I'm not a fan of organized religion by any stretch, but outlawing it is stupid and unnecessary.