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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:14 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Goes against Judaism.

And?

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:14 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Goes against Judaism.


Who says i am against Judaism?

Who says that's what I'm saying?
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Postby Holt » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:15 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Holt wrote:
Who says i am against Judaism?

Who says that's what I'm saying?


"Goes against Judaism", look i am Catholic, but i believe that at the age of 16, they can take the choice if they want to be circumcised or not
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:16 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Aren't flu shots given to children regardless of consent if the parent wants it done?

No, parents can give or not give consent to their children getting shots.

I'm asking if the parent decides to give the child a flu shot the kids consent doesn't matter.
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:16 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ors Might wrote:And?

And Jews should have the right to practice their religion

They do. They just shouldn’t have the right to cut pieces off of their children.
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Postby Holt » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:17 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And Jews should have the right to practice their religion

They do. They just shouldn’t have the right to cut pieces off of their children.


Exactly!
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:18 pm

Holt wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Who says that's what I'm saying?


"Goes against Judaism", look i am Catholic, but i believe that at the age of 16, they can take the choice if they want to be circumcised or not

I like your idea as a suitable alternative, but I don't think it follows the Jewish mandate, they'd still be angry. The problem isn't even that big to really seek a policy though to be honest. I find it much better if a parent just decides to give them a choice rather than a law mandating it.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:18 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:No, parents can give or not give consent to their children getting shots.

I'm asking if the parent decides to give the child a flu shot the kids consent doesn't matter.

Idk about that, but I'm pretty sure the parent has the final say.
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Who says that's what I'm saying?


"Goes against Judaism", look i am Catholic, but i believe that at the age of 16, they can take the choice if they want to be circumcised or not

Does you proposal go or everyone or are Jews exempted from the law?
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And Jews should have the right to practice their religion

They do. They just shouldn’t have the right to cut pieces off of their children.

So, they don't have the right to practice their religion.
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Postby Holt » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:20 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Holt wrote:
"Goes against Judaism", look i am Catholic, but i believe that at the age of 16, they can take the choice if they want to be circumcised or not

I like your idea as a suitable alternative, but I don't think it follows the Jewish mandate, they'd still be angry. The problem isn't even that big to really seek a policy though to be honest. I find it much better if a parent just decides to give them a choice rather than a law mandating it.


I understand your point, but sadly we can't decide above the government
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:20 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:I'm asking if the parent decides to give the child a flu shot the kids consent doesn't matter.

Idk about that, but I'm pretty sure the parent has the final say.
Holt wrote:
"Goes against Judaism", look i am Catholic, but i believe that at the age of 16, they can take the choice if they want to be circumcised or not

Does you proposal go or everyone or are Jews exempted from the law?
Ors Might wrote:They do. They just shouldn’t have the right to cut pieces off of their children.

So, they don't have the right to practice their religion.

If their religion requires them to mutilate people without consent, I’d rather they didn’t practice those bits. Mutilation is bad.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:21 pm

Ors Might wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Idk about that, but I'm pretty sure the parent has the final say.

Does you proposal go or everyone or are Jews exempted from the law?

So, they don't have the right to practice their religion.

If their religion requires them to mutilate people without consent, I’d rather they didn’t practice those bits. Mutilation is bad.

So, you don't support freedom of religion?
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Postby Holt » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:21 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:I'm asking if the parent decides to give the child a flu shot the kids consent doesn't matter.

Idk about that, but I'm pretty sure the parent has the final say.
Holt wrote:
"Goes against Judaism", look i am Catholic, but i believe that at the age of 16, they can take the choice if they want to be circumcised or not

Does you proposal go or everyone or are Jews exempted from the law?
Ors Might wrote:They do. They just shouldn’t have the right to cut pieces off of their children.

So, they don't have the right to practice their religion.


That has nothing to do with religion, i know that if you are 16, you can make decisions of your own body without having regrets and/or traumas. These babies are screaming murder! That's ridicilous!
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:23 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ors Might wrote:If their religion requires them to mutilate people without consent, I’d rather they didn’t practice those bits. Mutilation is bad.

So, you don't support freedom of religion?


Holy loaded question Batman!

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Postby Ors Might » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:23 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ors Might wrote:If their religion requires them to mutilate people without consent, I’d rather they didn’t practice those bits. Mutilation is bad.

So, you don't support freedom of religion?

I don’t support ritual human sacrifice and I doubt you do either. Clearly freedom of religion isn’t absolute, unless you want to defend the Aztecs.
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Postby Holt » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:24 pm

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So, you don't support freedom of religion?


Holy loaded question Batman!

:rofl: :clap:
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Postby Holt » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:25 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ors Might wrote:If their religion requires them to mutilate people without consent, I’d rather they didn’t practice those bits. Mutilation is bad.

So, you don't support freedom of religion?


Banning mutilation has nothing to do with being against freedom of religion
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:28 pm

Holt wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So, you don't support freedom of religion?


Banning mutilation has nothing to do with being against freedom of religion

Until said 'mutilation' involves a religious practice.
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:29 pm

Holt wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So, you don't support freedom of religion?


Banning mutilation has nothing to do with being against freedom of religion

Exactly
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Postby Aureumterra » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:29 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Holt wrote:
Banning mutilation has nothing to do with being against freedom of religion

Until said ‘mutilation' involves a religious practice.

Which harms the human body
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Postby Holt » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:29 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Holt wrote:
Banning mutilation has nothing to do with being against freedom of religion

Until said 'mutilation' involves a religious practice.


Doesn't matter, mutilation of a freaking child is never good and shouldn't be allowed
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:29 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ors Might wrote:And?

And Jews should have the right to practice their religion

But I shouldn't have the right to practice my religion of being given beer on other people's dime. Because Jews can remove the foreskins of their children, but I can't remove money from people's wallets.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:30 pm

Ifreann wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And Jews should have the right to practice their religion

But I shouldn't have the right to practice my religion of being given beer on other people's dime. Because Jews can remove the foreskins of their children, but I can't remove money from people's wallets.

Considering this religion doesn't even exist and you don't adhere to it, technically "no".
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:31 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Holt wrote:
Banning mutilation has nothing to do with being against freedom of religion

Until said 'mutilation' involves a religious practice.

Do you consider banning ritualistic human sacrifice a violation of religious freedoms?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:31 pm

Holt wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:So, you don't support freedom of religion?


Banning mutilation has nothing to do with being against freedom of religion

People have differing opinions on Freedom of Religion. The education system in America explains it as the separation of church and state.

I believe that freedom of religion allows people to practice their religion unless they infringe on someone's rights.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:32 pm

Ors Might wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Until said 'mutilation' involves a religious practice.

Do you consider banning ritualistic human sacrifice a violation of religious freedoms?

Technically yes.
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