Iceland To Ban Male Circumcision

[Ifreann]

One preventable death is one too many.

It’s also not enough to do anything. If it where more like 2,000 a year or something like that then you might have an argument.

Stopping those circumcisions wouldn't involve doing anything. Quite the opposite. Just stop circumcising babies.

[Genivaria]

This whole debate is just a ploy by male supremacists to distract from the golbal push in the west to end and punish sexual assault/harassment be and rape.

So you fake victims can stop crying any time now it's getting pathetic. I lost a pocket of useless skin I'm the biggest victim in the world. Focus on me me me not anything else but me

Jesus man doesn't reaching that hard hurt your back?

[Chessmistress]

This whole debate is just a ploy by male supremacists to distract from the golbal push in the west to end and punish sexual assault/harassment be and rape.

Says the guy who just attacked abortion...

[Ifreann]

This whole debate is just a ploy by male supremacists to distract from the golbal push in the west to end and punish sexual assault/harassment be and rape.

No it isn't.

[Cekoviu]

This whole debate is just a ploy by male supremacists to distract from the golbal push in the west to end and punish sexual assault/harassment be and rape.

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[Jadefall]

This really achieves nothing but makes religious folk angry. As such this is more of a attack on religion rather than a fight for rights.

Whilst I'm all for making religious cultists angry, let us focus on the fact that we are talking about cutting the penis of a tiny baby boy who is dependent on adults to care for him. Cutting. His. Penis. WTF is wrong with you that you can't see that this is depraved and unfair behavior? Maybe it made some sort of fuzzy sense to the backwards bronze-age desert tribe cultists of 2000 years ago where these stupid ideas originated, but this is the 21st Century ffs.

[Chessmistress]

Another christian who thinks that religion isn't an individual choice and that Jesus was wrong, I see...


The most interesting part is that the circumcised against his will could then become a christian following Jesus' teachings, including John 7:23...

As a person who has been circumcised I'm telling you that it doesn't matter in the end. It's a weird tradition that is enforced by religious beliefs. I hardly care if my family did it without my consent, since they were thinking what's best for me. I could disagree with them Ofcourse, but it's a insignificant problem in the grand scheme of things.

The discussion is about a ban on a non-medical useless practice forced on newborn babies who cannot consent.

[Vassenor]

Oh, ffs. How many time do pro-choice people need to go over the difference between a second-trimester fetus and a baby before pro-lifers figure it out?

They can survive at 21 weeks #SorryNotSorry

The abortion thread is right down the hall. Take this there.

[NewLiberalParty]

This whole debate is just a ploy by male supremacists to distract from the golbal push in the west to end and punish sexual assault/harassment be and rape.

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Why did it take till the metoo movement for people to care enough to legislate?

[Cekoviu]

This really achieves nothing but makes religious folk angry. As such this is more of a attack on religion rather than a fight for rights.

Whilst I'm all for making religious cultists angry, let us focus on the fact that we are talking about cutting the penis of a tiny baby boy who is dependent on adults to care for him. Cutting. His. Penis. WTF is wrong with you that you can't see that this is depraved and unfair behavior?

But religious freedom!

[Holy Tedalonia]

This really achieves nothing but makes religious folk angry. As such this is more of a attack on religion rather than a fight for rights.

Whilst I'm all for making religious cultists angry, let us focus on the fact that we are talking about cutting the penis of a tiny baby boy who is dependent on adults to care for him. Cutting. His. Penis. WTF is wrong with you that you can't see that this is depraved and unfair behavior?

"Cutting. His. Penis."

Hardly what it is. If that was the case jews would be extinct.

[Cekoviu]

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Why did it take till the metoo movement for people to care enough to legislate?

Seriously, what are you talking about?!

[Wysten]

This whole debate is just a ploy by male supremacists to distract from the golbal push in the west to end and punish sexual assault/harassment be and rape.

Can I have the number to your dealer because that must be some good shit you are smoking.

[The Alma Mater]

Whilst I'm all for making religious cultists angry, let us focus on the fact that we are talking about cutting the penis of a tiny baby boy who is dependent on adults to care for him. Cutting. His. Penis. WTF is wrong with you that you can't see that this is depraved and unfair behavior?

"Cutting. His. Penis."

Hardly what it is. If that was the case jews would be extinct.

How many are there ? 20 million or so ?
Muslims number 1.5 billion and have been around far shorter.

So perhaps you are on to something here...

[Jadefall]

Whilst I'm all for making religious cultists angry, let us focus on the fact that we are talking about cutting the penis of a tiny baby boy who is dependent on adults to care for him. Cutting. His. Penis. WTF is wrong with you that you can't see that this is depraved and unfair behavior?

"Cutting. His. Penis."

Hardly what it is. If that was the case jews would be extinct.

What? That's exactly what it is. Check wikipedia. Cutting. Not decorating, or helicoptering.... cutting. Yes? I didn't say cutting off, did I? No. Cutting. Incising. Operating. Performing surgery. Would you like me to draw you a picture?

[Alvecia]

Exactly what I said. Doesn't really need any further clarification.

I don't understand what you're saying.

I'm not speaking another language, have you tried reading it?

It's 200 more than is acceptable for what is a unecessary cosmetic surgery.

There are other risks involved as well. Like all those ultra orthodox Jewish rabi fellas that give the baby a blowjob to get rid of the blood and end up giving them herpes

Oral sex is supposed to be pleasureable and not for medical reasons. Jewish rabbis are not giving babies oral sex.

You're right, there's a very important distinction between a blowjob and sucking a dick.

[Telconi]

As a person who has been circumcised I'm telling you that it doesn't matter in the end. It's a weird tradition that is enforced by religious beliefs. I hardly care if my family did it without my consent, since they were thinking what's best for me. I could disagree with them Ofcourse, but it's a insignificant problem in the grand scheme of things.

The discussion is about a ban on a non-medical useless practice forced on newborn babies who cannot consent.

Parents do a lot of things to their children that the child cannot make informed consent to.

[Cekoviu]

The discussion is about a ban on a non-medical useless practice forced on newborn babies who cannot consent.

Parents do a lot of things to their children that the child cannot make informed consent to.

useless

[Wysten]

"Cutting. His. Penis."

Hardly what it is. If that was the case jews would be extinct.

How many are there ? 20 million or so ?
Muslims number 1.5 billion and have been around far shorter.

So perhaps you are on to something here...

Its almost like they do not openly seek converts and have been through multiple genocides just for being jews.

[Alvecia]

"Cutting. His. Penis."

Hardly what it is. If that was the case jews would be extinct.

What? That's exactly what it is. Check wikipedia. Cutting. Not decorating, or helicoptering.... cutting. Yes? I didn't say cutting off, did I? No. Cutting. Incising. Operating. Performing surgery. Would you like me to draw you a picture?

You mean they don't just slurp it off with a vacuum?

[The Alma Mater]

Why did it take till the metoo movement for people to care enough to legislate?

Seriously, what are you talking about?!

He is pointing at a correlation. People have been complaining about male circumcision for decades if not centuries - but only in the metoo age legislation was enacted.

Also, there is a clear correlation between global warming and the declining number of pirates with peglegs.

[The Alma Mater]

What? That's exactly what it is. Check wikipedia. Cutting. Not decorating, or helicoptering.... cutting. Yes? I didn't say cutting off, did I? No. Cutting. Incising. Operating. Performing surgery. Would you like me to draw you a picture?

You mean they don't just slurp it off with a vacuum?

Well, in the traditional Jewish manner the priest does suck the blood of the dick with his mouth.
That is kinda like a vacuum.

[Holy Tedalonia]

As a person who has been circumcised I'm telling you that it doesn't matter in the end. It's a weird tradition that is enforced by religious beliefs. I hardly care if my family did it without my consent, since they were thinking what's best for me. I could disagree with them Ofcourse, but it's a insignificant problem in the grand scheme of things.

The discussion is about a ban on a non-medical useless practice forced on newborn babies who cannot consent.

Exactly no use, but also no real harm. The arguement boils down to the equivalency of "can I spank a child as a parent, or is that infringing upon their bodily sovereignty?"

[Alvecia]

You mean they don't just slurp it off with a vacuum?

Well, in the traditional Jewish manner the priest does suck the blood of the dick with his mouth.
That is kinda like a vacuum.

Now I'm imagining them getting baby foreskin stuck in their throat.
*shudders*

[Chessmistress]

The discussion is about a ban on a non-medical useless practice forced on newborn babies who cannot consent.

Parents do a lot of things to their children that the child cannot make informed consent to.

Sometimes there are parents killing their children.
Then there are parents abusing their children.
Then there's FGM.

Your point being?