Iceland To Ban Male Circumcision

[Genivaria]

Preventing Jews from bringing their children into the Mosaic Covenant, the sacred bond that defines Jews as Jews, is not antisemitic or discriminatory against Jews?

Your complete blindness to the subject is really getting tiresome.

Maybe they shouldn't have predicted their religion on the mutilation of infants genitals. Just a thought.

Sorry, all the population is banned from going to Synagogue, and not just Jews.

Except that specifying "synagogue" very clearly targets Jews. Circumcision is not a solely Jewish tradition or practice.

Also, going to a synagogue isn't a violation of someone else's basic human rights.

Makes me wonder if they'd be so vocal in their opposition if members of the Aztec religion were still around and they were outraged that they can't rip out their enemies hearts anymore.

[Hayo]

So when it comes to ritual abuse or mutilation...

Is there a litmus test which can be reliably applied which says, "yeah, this is the point where it's not okay"?

Or are we making exceptions for certain religions without any rhyme or reason?

[Ultramarr]

This is amazing its sad how so many other countries don't have the guts to do the right thing. Its sick how people let babies be mutilated in the name of muh tolerance. Any religion that mutilates children has no place in the civilised world

[Salus Maior]

Preventing Jews from bringing their children into the Mosaic Covenant, the sacred bond that defines Jews as Jews, is not antisemitic or discriminatory against Jews?

Your complete blindness to the subject is really getting tiresome.

Maybe they shouldn't have predicted their religion on the mutilation of infants genitals. Just a thought.

So you finally do admit it's discriminatory towards Jews?

[Des-Bal]

So you don't believe a law can discriminate against a certain group if the intention is not to discriminate against a certain group? Even if in effect it does?

Well, there's a loophole for people who want to be discriminate and cruel to other groups, for ya.

There needs to be a compelling reason. Not cutting up baby dicks is a compelling reason.

[Genivaria]

Your comparisons are becoming more absurd every page.

How is it absurd? A law banning all the population from practicing circumcision is still banning Jews from practicing circumcision.

And Jews are exempt from the law now?

[Camicon]

Maybe they shouldn't have predicted their religion on the mutilation of infants genitals. Just a thought.

Except that specifying "synagogue" very clearly targets Jews. Circumcision is not a solely Jewish tradition or practice.

Also, going to a synagogue isn't a violation of someone else's basic human rights.

Makes me wonder if they'd be so vocal in their opposition if members of the Aztec religion were still around and they were outraged that they can't rip out their enemies hearts anymore.

"Forcibly removing someone's heart is an inextricable part of the Aztec religion and culture, and banning the practice is bigotry against Aztecs!"

[Hakons]

Maybe they shouldn't have predicted their religion on the mutilation of infants genitals. Just a thought.

Except that specifying "synagogue" very clearly targets Jews. Circumcision is not a solely Jewish tradition or practice.

Also, going to a synagogue isn't a violation of someone else's basic human rights.

Makes me wonder if they'd be so vocal in their opposition if members of the Aztec religion were still around and they were outraged that they can't rip out their enemies hearts anymore.

Comparing circumcision to ripping out hearts, and you say my comparisons are crazy. This law bans Jewish practice, which is bloody obvious, and you don't care.

[Camicon]

Maybe they shouldn't have predicted their religion on the mutilation of infants genitals. Just a thought.

So you finally do admit it's discriminatory towards Jews?

No, I'm saying "tough shit". Jews don't get a pass because they're Jews.

[Genivaria]

Maybe they shouldn't have predicted their religion on the mutilation of infants genitals. Just a thought.

So you finally do admit it's discriminatory towards Jews?

I also discriminate against people who support child marriages, how horrible of me.

[Salus Maior]

"Forcibly removing someone's heart is an inextricable part of the Aztec religion and culture, and banning the practice is bigotry against Aztecs!"

It's also murder. Which circumcision isn't.

[Hakons]

How is it absurd? A law banning all the population from practicing circumcision is still banning Jews from practicing circumcision.

And Jews are exempt from the law now?

No, which is why I oppose this bill.

[Genivaria]

Makes me wonder if they'd be so vocal in their opposition if members of the Aztec religion were still around and they were outraged that they can't rip out their enemies hearts anymore.

Comparing circumcision to ripping out hearts, and you say my comparisons are crazy. This law bans Jewish practice, which is bloody obvious, and you don't care.

Comparing circumcision to ripping out hearts, and you say my comparisons are crazy

Well your comparisons didn't actually involve any sort of harm so yeah.

[Camicon]

Makes me wonder if they'd be so vocal in their opposition if members of the Aztec religion were still around and they were outraged that they can't rip out their enemies hearts anymore.

Comparing circumcision to ripping out hearts, and you say my comparisons are crazy. This law bans Jewish practice, which is bloody obvious, and you don't care.

Both circumcision and murder are violations of basic human rights. "Religion" does not justify the latter any more than it does the former.

[Ultramarr]

"Jews are affected by legislation that stops the population of the state as a whole from doing X" is not antisemitism.

Preventing Jews from bringing their children into the Mosaic Covenant, the sacred bond that defines Jews as Jews, is not antisemitic or discriminatory against Jews?

Your complete blindness to the subject is really getting tiresome.

They deserve to be "discriminated" and worse if they think satanic ritual mutilation of children is ok

[Genivaria]

And Jews are exempt from the law now?

No, which is why I oppose this bill.

That makes no sense.

[Camicon]

"Forcibly removing someone's heart is an inextricable part of the Aztec religion and culture, and banning the practice is bigotry against Aztecs!"

It's also murder. Which circumcision isn't.

Both are violations of basic human rights.

[Salus Maior]

So you finally do admit it's discriminatory towards Jews?

No, I'm saying "tough shit". Jews don't get a pass because they're Jews.

So you are discriminating against Jews. At least have the balls to say so instead of hiding behind your veil of virtue-signalling.

[Crockerland]

They are aware of it's significance for religious communities. However they believe that religious tolerance should not supersede the rights of the child. Which I agree with. The law allows for boys to have circumcisions once they reach an age where they can understand what is involved.

Adult circumcision is more painful and carries a higher risk of infection. Regardless, circumcision is how Jews show their covenant with God. The Icelandic authorities might as well ban kippas while their at it.

The key difference here being that kippas are articles of clothing that have no permanent biological effect on anyone, while circumcision is a medical procedure that permanently removes a body part from a very young child who cannot give any form of informed consent. Iceland has some pretty outstanding antisemitism problems but I really don't think this is one of them or even really related to them.

[Camicon]

Preventing Jews from bringing their children into the Mosaic Covenant, the sacred bond that defines Jews as Jews, is not antisemitic or discriminatory against Jews?

Your complete blindness to the subject is really getting tiresome.

They deserve to be "discriminated" and worse if they think satanic ritual mutilation of children is ok

Don't bring your Nazi shit into the thread. Go back to Stormfront if you want a "JEWS ARE THE DEVIL" circlejerk.

[Hakons]

Yep, they truly don't care about how terrible this bill is to Judaism. Secular morality has reared its head, and the religious must oppose it.

[Ultramarr]

Makes me wonder if they'd be so vocal in their opposition if members of the Aztec religion were still around and they were outraged that they can't rip out their enemies hearts anymore.

Comparing circumcision to ripping out hearts, and you say my comparisons are crazy. This law bans Jewish practice, which is bloody obvious, and you don't care.

Jews shouldn't be protected to do their crimes such as genital mutilation. Whats next muh the gorillion

[Genivaria]

No, I'm saying "tough shit". Jews don't get a pass because they're Jews.

So you are discriminating against Jews. At least have the balls to say so instead of hiding behind your veil of virtue-signalling.

I am bewildered by how you read that.

[Camicon]

No, I'm saying "tough shit". Jews don't get a pass because they're Jews.

So you are discriminating against Jews. At least have the balls to say so instead of hiding behind your veil of virtue-signalling.

I'm not discriminating against Jews, I am advocating for equality. Male babies should be protected from genital mutilation the same as female babies.

That Judaism has some weird fascination with the former is their problem, not mine.

[Salus Maior]

It's also murder. Which circumcision isn't.

Both are violations of basic human rights.

According to what and who?

And having a procedure that ultimately effects you very little in your life is completely different from literally taking someone's life.