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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 pm

Liriena wrote:
Aillyria wrote:As much as I agree with this post, I see this surge of anti-intellectualism as a side effect of how fake and artificial our world has become. It is rather hard to put one's trust in things when it is so easy to conjure up fabricated articles and research.

Not a bad take.

We are experiencing an understandable loss of trust in established sources of information while being constantly surrounded by a cacophony of stuff that, due to its sheer volume and rhythm, we can't really handle in a genuinely thoughtful and critical way.


Not entirely wrong. After all, we live in the post-truth era, where even we cannot trust the most trusted media and where the fake news could very well be ended up as true.
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So Covenant declare a crusade and then wage jihad? :p

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Liriena wrote:Not a bad take.

We are experiencing an understandable loss of trust in established sources of information while being constantly surrounded by a cacophony of stuff that, due to its sheer volume and rhythm, we can't really handle in a genuinely thoughtful and critical way.


Not entirely wrong. After all, we live in the post-truth era, where even we cannot trust the most trusted media and where the fake news could very well be ended up as true.

That's why I'm eating soy products like crazy. Infowars promised it'd make me get all cute and delicate. :P
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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:36 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Not entirely wrong. After all, we live in the post-truth era, where even we cannot trust the most trusted media and where the fake news could very well be ended up as true.

That's why I'm eating soy products like crazy. Infowars promised it'd make me get all cute and delicate. :P

I wish that worked, as a trans woman who likes soy products and is not on estrogen,
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:37 pm

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I though they have the plan to send rockets filled with their people to determine the flatness of the Earth.

Is that like notebooks filled with women?


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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:37 pm

Liriena wrote:
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Not entirely wrong. After all, we live in the post-truth era, where even we cannot trust the most trusted media and where the fake news could very well be ended up as true.

That's why I'm eating soy products like crazy. Infowars promised it'd make me get all cute and delicate. :P


Speaking of Infowars, I haven't watch it ever since last November of 2017.
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TriStates wrote:Covenant declare a crusade, and wage jihad against the UNSC and Insurrectionists for 30 years.

So Covenant declare a crusade and then wage jihad? :p

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Liriena wrote:That's why I'm eating soy products like crazy. Infowars promised it'd make me get all cute and delicate. :P


Speaking of Infowars, I haven’t watch it ever since last November of 2017.

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Postby The Knockout Gun Gals » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:40 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
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I though they have the plan to send rockets filled with their people to determine the flatness of the Earth.

Is that like notebooks filled with women?


What?
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Speaking of Infowars, I haven’t watch it ever since last November of 2017.

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OK.
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TriStates wrote:Covenant declare a crusade, and wage jihad against the UNSC and Insurrectionists for 30 years.

So Covenant declare a crusade and then wage jihad? :p

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:41 pm

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Speaking of Infowars, I haven’t watch it ever since last November of 2017.

stop threadjacking

You're just continuing the chain and giving it more visibility by posting that with quotes. Neener neener.
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:So it seems the notion of a flat Earth has seen a comeback and is a growing movement in the United States and other countries.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-col ... story.html

It boggles the mind how one can be so ignorant and uniformed to believe the Earth is flat. It was known even during the time of Ancient Greece Ptolemy, Aristotle and Pythagoras used calculations of the earth's shadow during lunar eclipses to conclude the Earth was round. Another Greek mathematician Eratosthenes realized the earth was round because during the solstice in Alexandria, Eqypt there was a shadow cast by a stick in the ground but in the city of Syene (now Aswan) which was further south as there was no shadow as the sun was at a different angle. Therefore he concluded the Earth was round. This would not be the case if the Earth was flat.

But some of these people go even further they not only believe the Earth is flat, they don't think satellites or the International Space Station exists, the Apollo landings never happened, the Earth is the center of the universe, and gravity isn't real.

The fact that this movement is growing and people have such ignorance of science and facts is frightening. I would suggest these people visit a museum but they'd probably say its all fake anyway designed to continue deceiving people.

What's your thoughts NSG? Why has this movement been growing and how could someone honestly believe the Earth is flat when its been known for over 2,000 years that its not?


I am astounded by people's capacity for willful ignorance and stupidity.

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Postby Sovaal » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:16 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Liriena wrote:Not a bad take.

We are experiencing an understandable loss of trust in established sources of information while being constantly surrounded by a cacophony of stuff that, due to its sheer volume and rhythm, we can't really handle in a genuinely thoughtful and critical way.


Pretty much.

I usually dismiss theories like this that spit in the face of easily verifiable physics, myself. But, I think other conspiracy theories should be taken more seriously.

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San Lumen wrote:So it seems the notion of a flat Earth has seen a comeback and is a growing movement in the United States and other countries.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-col ... story.html

It boggles the mind how one can be so ignorant and uniformed to believe the Earth is flat. It was known even during the time of Ancient Greece Ptolemy, Aristotle and Pythagoras used calculations of the earth's shadow during lunar eclipses to conclude the Earth was round. Another Greek mathematician Eratosthenes realized the earth was round because during the solstice in Alexandria, Eqypt there was a shadow cast by a stick in the ground but in the city of Syene (now Aswan) which was further south as there was no shadow as the sun was at a different angle. Therefore he concluded the Earth was round. This would not be the case if the Earth was flat.

But some of these people go even further they not only believe the Earth is flat, they don't think satellites or the International Space Station exists, the Apollo landings never happened, the Earth is the center of the universe, and gravity isn't real.

The fact that this movement is growing and people have such ignorance of science and facts is frightening. I would suggest these people visit a museum but they'd probably say its all fake anyway designed to continue deceiving people.

What's your thoughts NSG? Why has this movement been growing and how could someone honestly believe the Earth is flat when its been known for over 2,000 years that its not?


I am astounded by people's capacity for willful ignorance and stupidity.

Worst part is that you can never win an argument with them. Whether ot be flat earth or evolution. This and YouTube comments on otherwise intelligent videos erode my faith in humanity.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:35 pm

Katganistan wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So it seems the notion of a flat Earth has seen a comeback and is a growing movement in the United States and other countries.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-col ... story.html

It boggles the mind how one can be so ignorant and uniformed to believe the Earth is flat. It was known even during the time of Ancient Greece Ptolemy, Aristotle and Pythagoras used calculations of the earth's shadow during lunar eclipses to conclude the Earth was round. Another Greek mathematician Eratosthenes realized the earth was round because during the solstice in Alexandria, Eqypt there was a shadow cast by a stick in the ground but in the city of Syene (now Aswan) which was further south as there was no shadow as the sun was at a different angle. Therefore he concluded the Earth was round. This would not be the case if the Earth was flat.

But some of these people go even further they not only believe the Earth is flat, they don't think satellites or the International Space Station exists, the Apollo landings never happened, the Earth is the center of the universe, and gravity isn't real.

The fact that this movement is growing and people have such ignorance of science and facts is frightening. I would suggest these people visit a museum but they'd probably say its all fake anyway designed to continue deceiving people.

What's your thoughts NSG? Why has this movement been growing and how could someone honestly believe the Earth is flat when its been known for over 2,000 years that its not?


I am astounded by people's capacity for willful ignorance and stupidity.

Sadly it seems being intellectual and and intelligent is becoming taboo to people. You could show them photos from space taken in 1947 that prove the Earth is round and they'd say they were fake. I don't know how you'd keep a conspiracy like the Earth being flat quiet. Just like how someone would have leaked the Apollo missions being fake by now considering over 400,000 people worked on the missions.

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Postby NeoOasis » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:37 pm

ChickenBookland wrote:How can anyone actually think that the Earth is flat? Either they’re lying, they’re hypnotized, or they need help. There are so many ways to prove that they Earth is round, from the experiment Erastonsense or whatever his name is did to the pictures of Earth. And why do Flat Earth people say that NASA is lying to us? There are plenty of other space agencies that have taken pictures from space and sent astronauts into orbit, but no Flat Earthers are claiming that they are lying.


Experiments were done in the past when people were more ignorant. You can't expect some Greek not-scientist to prove anything. They thought there were only four elements: earth, wind, fire, water. So if they can't even figure that out, what makes you think they can figure the shape of the earth out? If the Earth is in fact round, and spinning at hundreds of miles a minute, the mere action of jumping up would cause me to fly in a direction very very fast... but I don't.

As for pictures, there are many great historical examples of pictures being doctored from Stalin's disappearing followers to Great White attacking a helicopter. A round earth picture is nothing more than clever use of an ages old technique. Anyone with a camera and a computer can turn anything into anything. Lenses work on refracting light due to curvatures of the glass/whatever, and I'm sure you've noticed that the windows on airplanes aren't perfectly flat. They will give a small curve to the horizon, I noticed it in the sky, and on the ground. Bit hard to notice the distortion since there's more going on, but once you're in the sky, and all you have is the ground and sky to compare... it becomes easier to notice.

The live stream of the Falcon Heavy is just as easy to explain as total rubbish. We have video games that look absolutely perfect, and in the case of SpaceX, they have spent millions if not billions on this sham... after all why would the US military sink the main stage? Because it still had the Roadster in there. They sunk it to keep the illusion, and the idiots satisfied with a roadster in space. Musk is in bed with NASA... after all the US government is paying his company to "launch" things into orbit. Don't believe technology is good enough? Consider that face swap software that was revealed recently that could essentially do live face swapping with enough practice and run up. Why not apply that to "space launches?"

These aren't too hard to actually figure out if you actually THINK for a few minutes. Take note that Blue Origin and ULA are both working with the US government to provide them with rocket launches, and keep them in check. SpaceX is already in the government's pocket with their contracts and funding. Space Ship One was a nominally private, and look what happened to Space Ship One... yeah, that wasn't subtle. Pretty much all private space ventures have some funding from their respective governments. This isn't rocket science. The governments are all in it together. All of the current "space capable" nations are UN members... I think you can connect the dots.


Okay, I had almost too much fun writing that. That was all a joke, but it was easier to write bullshit than prove reality. This logic is easy because you need a minimal amount of knowledge to apply it, and it's so flawed it's fairly hard to refute without some other stupid logical loophole being opened. I can deny anything here by asking another stupid question while prefacing it with "I'm not expert, buuuuuuut," or just accuse you of being too stupid to understand. I could go on to say, "for thousands of years people thought disease was a spiritual thing until germ theory," and say everyone believed it or some rubbish.

tl;dr: Deny everything, discredit reality, create your own reality with minimal facts.

It works for a lot of conspiracy theories. China discovering America, Holocaust Denial, vaccines is a great one.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
I am astounded by people's capacity for willful ignorance and stupidity.

Sadly it seems being intellectual and and intelligent is becoming taboo to people. You could show them photos from space taken in 1947 that prove the Earth is round and they'd say they were fake. I don't know how you'd keep a conspiracy like the Earth being flat quiet. Just like how someone would have leaked the Apollo missions being fake by now considering over 400,000 people worked on the missions.


How many flat eathers think climate change is a lie?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:44 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Sadly it seems being intellectual and and intelligent is becoming taboo to people. You could show them photos from space taken in 1947 that prove the Earth is round and they'd say they were fake. I don't know how you'd keep a conspiracy like the Earth being flat quiet. Just like how someone would have leaked the Apollo missions being fake by now considering over 400,000 people worked on the missions.


How many flat eathers think climate change is a lie?

Probably quite a few. Another hoax by Nasa and the Illuminati.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:32 pm

Vivida Vis Animi wrote:Just think what this'll do for the memes.

Ive seen their memes and supposed evidence. it's beyond laughable. Im just waiting for a flat Earther to come on this thread.

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Vivida Vis Animi wrote:Just think what this'll do for the memes.

Ive seen their memes and supposed evidence. it's beyond laughable. Im just waiting for a flat Earther to come on this thread.

I don't think even the craziest folks on NS think the earth is flat.
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San Lumen wrote:Ive seen their memes and supposed evidence. it's beyond laughable. Im just waiting for a flat Earther to come on this thread.

I don't think even the craziest folks on NS think the earth is flat.

apparently there was a flat earth thread at one point

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Postby Cekoviu » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:42 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:I don't think even the craziest folks on NS think the earth is flat.

apparently there was a flat earth thread at one point

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Ah, but he's an ex-nation now, so we're good. I said "I don't think even the craziest folks on NS think the earth is flat.", which is in the present tense. Phew.
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Postby Camicon » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:59 pm

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Ah, but he's an ex-nation now, so we're good. I said "I don't think even the craziest folks on NS think the earth is flat.", which is in the present tense. Phew.

You never know. Could be like Beetlejuice. Say his name often enough, and...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:01 pm

Are there any actual sources on them growing? I know they've been talked about a bit more because, well, they're god damn hilarious but I have a hard time believing more people are actually buying into this shit.

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Are there any actual sources on them growing? I know they've been talked about a bit more because, well, they're god damn hilarious but I have a hard time believing more people are actually buying into this shit.

The massive uptick in Google search results aren't necessarily proof of more people buying into that shit, but that is what they suggest.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:04 pm

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Ah, but he's an ex-nation now, so we're good. I said "I don't think even the craziest folks on NS think the earth is flat.", which is in the present tense. Phew.

There was a flat earth thread as recently as last year. The OP nation has also CTE sadly.

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