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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:41 pm
by The first Galactic Republic
Greed and Death wrote:It was just Trolling on the net Jesus. I started it back in the 1990s for the LuLz. This is going too far.

Modern flat Earthers to back to the mid 20th century. The increasing social media following is probably ironic, but you give some of them too much credit.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:41 pm
by Cekoviu
Not surprising, given that 42 percent of Americans are ready and willing to reject science and literal facts when they fly in the face of their fancy book of choice. This is of course slightly more egregious, but we've proven that evolution exists already (see Richard Lenski, or look at the fossil record) just as we've proven that the Earth is an oblate spheroid through images, and yet people still think both are made up or "just theories."

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:43 pm
by Cekoviu
San Lumen wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:And just like that, Flat Earth Society has members all over the GLOBE.

I still refuse to believe it. I mean, ok, let's say it is flat. What if... someone falls off? No matter how hard the government covers it, there will always be that stupid one with a sailboat who travelled a tad too far and promptly fell off.

They will probably tell you Antartica is a wall of ice that keeps you from falling off and that people have been duped into believing the ice wall doesn't exist.

Cekovians can confirm that they very much live inside a wall of ice.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:44 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Greed and Death wrote:
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Watch out, go too far & someone will fall off the edge.

I was in high school I thought it was funny.


Hey, least I know my humor is still reliant on puns nonexistent (no, this is not supposed to be a guilt trip. Do not take it that way, & this part is not meant to be taken sarcastically as well).

Cekoviu wrote:Not surprising, given that 42 percent of Americans are ready and willing to reject science and literal facts when they fly in the face of their fancy book of choice. This is of course slightly more egregious, but we've proven that evolution exists already (see Richard Lenski, or look at the fossil record) just as we've proven that the Earth is an oblate spheroid through images, and yet people still think both are made up or "just theories."


To them, it probably feels pretty good to make a stand against something that has so much support since it shows their independence.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:47 pm
by Cekoviu
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:I was in high school I thought it was funny.


Hey, least I know my humor is still reliant on puns nonexistent (no, this is not supposed to be a guilt trip. Do not take it that way, & this part is not meant to be taken sarcastically as well).

Cekoviu wrote:Not surprising, given that 42 percent of Americans are ready and willing to reject science and literal facts when they fly in the face of their fancy book of choice. This is of course slightly more egregious, but we've proven that evolution exists already (see Richard Lenski, or look at the fossil record) just as we've proven that the Earth is an oblate spheroid through images, and yet people still think both are made up or "just theories."


To them, it probably feels pretty good to make a stand against something that has so much support since it shows their independence.

I think most YECs in the general population didn't get a decent biology education and are indoctrinated with the Genesis myth, and that's why they don't believe in evolution, but that could be the case too.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:54 pm
by Aillyria
Cekoviu wrote:Not surprising, given that 42 percent of Americans are ready and willing to reject science and literal facts when they fly in the face of their fancy book of choice. This is of course slightly more egregious, but we've proven that evolution exists already (see Richard Lenski, or look at the fossil record) just as we've proven that the Earth is an oblate spheroid through images, and yet people still think both are made up or "just theories."

As much as I agree with this post, I see this surge of anti-intellectualism as a side effect of how fake and artificial our world has become. It is rather hard to put one's trust in things when it is so easy to conjure up fabricated articles and research.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:55 pm
by Liriena
I suppose we could do an in-depth examination of what would drive a growing number of people into the arms of such a kooky worldview... but I'm tired and too baffled. :P

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:58 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Liriena wrote:I suppose we could do an in-depth examination of what would drive a growing number of people into the arms of such a kooky worldview... but I'm tired and too baffled. :P


As I've said, rebelling against something that most accept that has little risk to deny can always feel good to people desperate for pleasure, especially since this denial is pretty easy to do. All ye do is go online, type "Earth is flat" & there. Now you feel like a proud, independent person who's smarter than everyone else & think, "who cares if everyone else is right? I'm feelin' good."

There's also an equally high chance that what I'm saying right now is pretty much false but we'll arrive at some conclusion, I'm sure.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:00 pm
by Liriena
Aillyria wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Not surprising, given that 42 percent of Americans are ready and willing to reject science and literal facts when they fly in the face of their fancy book of choice. This is of course slightly more egregious, but we've proven that evolution exists already (see Richard Lenski, or look at the fossil record) just as we've proven that the Earth is an oblate spheroid through images, and yet people still think both are made up or "just theories."

As much as I agree with this post, I see this surge of anti-intellectualism as a side effect of how fake and artificial our world has become. It is rather hard to put one's trust in things when it is so easy to conjure up fabricated articles and research.

Not a bad take.

We are experiencing an understandable loss of trust in established sources of information while being constantly surrounded by a cacophony of stuff that, due to its sheer volume and rhythm, we can't really handle in a genuinely thoughtful and critical way.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:03 pm
by Liriena
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Liriena wrote:I suppose we could do an in-depth examination of what would drive a growing number of people into the arms of such a kooky worldview... but I'm tired and too baffled. :P


As I've said, rebelling against something that most accept that has little risk to deny can always feel good to people desperate for pleasure, especially since this denial is pretty easy to do. All ye do is go online, type "Earth is flat" & there. Now you feel like a proud, independent person who's smarter than everyone else & think, "who cares if everyone else is right? I'm feelin' good."

There's also an equally high chance that what I'm saying right now is pretty much false but we'll arrive at some conclusion, I'm sure.

I somewhat agree with your view.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:04 pm
by Xmara
The first Galactic Republic wrote:
Pasong Tirad wrote:Are they gaining more members...

...around the globe?!

I wonder if any of them accidentally use that phrase.


Image

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:05 pm
by Liriena
Xmara wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:I wonder if any of them accidentally use that phrase.


Image

I want to believe that this is real sooooo bad. :p

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:06 pm
by Jebslund
Arvecnia wrote:And here I though the earth was a cylinder who know, but seriously anyone who thinks earth is flat is an utter idiot.

Yeah. The Earth is a round old lady with giant mountains who is getting increasingly common hot flashes and chills, increasingly moody, and has to listen to some of her children demanding she be given less strain and most of them squabbling over her fortune before she's even on her deathbed and wondering when her children will give her grandkids.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:07 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
Xmara wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:I wonder if any of them accidentally use that phrase.


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I'd imagine that if you called them out on it they'd explain it as an "already well-established metaphor that's even more metaphorical & is a reference to a bygone era of thinking" or say that "the idiom is just another example of how they want to control people. First they're indoctrinating ideas, & now they're controlling your language through figurative language involving the existence of a round Earth." Or call you an idiot. One of the three.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:11 pm
by Xmara
Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Liriena wrote:I suppose we could do an in-depth examination of what would drive a growing number of people into the arms of such a kooky worldview... but I'm tired and too baffled. :P


As I've said, rebelling against something that most accept that has little risk to deny can always feel good to people desperate for pleasure, especially since this denial is pretty easy to do. All ye do is go online, type "Earth is flat" & there. Now you feel like a proud, independent person who's smarter than everyone else & think, "who cares if everyone else is right? I'm feelin' good."

There's also an equally high chance that what I'm saying right now is pretty much false but we'll arrive at some conclusion, I'm sure.


Everyone wants to be special and feel special these days

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:12 pm
by ChickenBookland
How can anyone actually think that the Earth is flat? Either they’re lying, they’re hypnotized, or they need help. There are so many ways to prove that they Earth is round, from the experiment Erastonsense or whatever his name is did to the pictures of Earth. And why do Flat Earth people say that NASA is lying to us? There are plenty of other space agencies that have taken pictures from space and sent astronauts into orbit, but no Flat Earthers are claiming that they are lying.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:14 pm
by Aureumterra
ChickenBookland wrote:How can anyone actually think that the Earth is flat? Either they’re lying, they’re hypnotized, or they need help. There are so many ways to prove that they Earth is round, from the experiment Erastonsense or whatever his name is did to the pictures of Earth. And why do Flat Earth people say that NASA is lying to us? There are plenty of other space agencies that have taken pictures from space and sent astronauts into orbit, but no Flat Earthers are claiming that they are lying.

All they have to do is go skydiving, most skydiving planes drop from high enough to see the proper curve, whenever I mention that to a flat earther, they claim that the skydiving goggles filter it to make it looked curved

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:15 pm
by Shwe Tu Colony
ChickenBookland wrote:How can anyone actually think that the Earth is flat? Either they’re lying, they’re hypnotized, or they need help. There are so many ways to prove that they Earth is round, from the experiment Erastonsense or whatever his name is did to the pictures of Earth. And why do Flat Earth people say that NASA is lying to us? There are plenty of other space agencies that have taken pictures from space and sent astronauts into orbit, but no Flat Earthers are claiming that they are lying.


To comprehend those experiments would take effort that they aren't willing to expend, & they claim specifically NASA probably because they're the most well-known agency, so they might think that denouncing them gives their cause more influence since everyone knows NASA & not any of those other agencies.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 pm
by The Knockout Gun Gals
The Flat Earth Movement is dangerously closing in to more than just a movement, becoming more like a cult. A pseudo-scientific cult.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:18 pm
by Xmara
Aureumterra wrote:
ChickenBookland wrote:How can anyone actually think that the Earth is flat? Either they’re lying, they’re hypnotized, or they need help. There are so many ways to prove that they Earth is round, from the experiment Erastonsense or whatever his name is did to the pictures of Earth. And why do Flat Earth people say that NASA is lying to us? There are plenty of other space agencies that have taken pictures from space and sent astronauts into orbit, but no Flat Earthers are claiming that they are lying.

All they have to do is go skydiving, most skydiving planes drop from high enough to see the proper curve, whenever I mention that to a flat earther, they claim that the skydiving goggles filter it to make it looked curved


And yet not a single flat earther has thought about how difficult a conspiracy this size would be to pull off.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:22 pm
by Aureumterra
Xmara wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:All they have to do is go skydiving, most skydiving planes drop from high enough to see the proper curve, whenever I mention that to a flat earther, they claim that the skydiving goggles filter it to make it looked curved


And yet not a single flat earther has thought about how difficult a conspiracy this size would be to pull off.

All they have to do is take the goggle off, sure, it’s gonna hurt your eyes, but it’ll prove that the Earth is curved

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:24 pm
by The Knockout Gun Gals
Aureumterra wrote:
Xmara wrote:
And yet not a single flat earther has thought about how difficult a conspiracy this size would be to pull off.

All they have to do is take the goggle off, sure, it’s gonna hurt your eyes, but it’ll prove that the Earth is curved


I though they have the plan to send rockets filled with their people to determine the flatness of the Earth.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:25 pm
by Ohioan Territory
Yes, Eddie Bravo has enlightened us. Continue believing your governments...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:26 pm
by Farnhamia
The Knockout Gun Gals wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:All they have to do is take the goggle off, sure, it’s gonna hurt your eyes, but it’ll prove that the Earth is curved


I though they have the plan to send rockets filled with their people to determine the flatness of the Earth.

Is that like notebooks filled with women?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:28 pm
by Aillyria
Liriena wrote:
Aillyria wrote:As much as I agree with this post, I see this surge of anti-intellectualism as a side effect of how fake and artificial our world has become. It is rather hard to put one's trust in things when it is so easy to conjure up fabricated articles and research.

Not a bad take.

We are experiencing an understandable loss of trust in established sources of information while being constantly surrounded by a cacophony of stuff that, due to its sheer volume and rhythm, we can't really handle in a genuinely thoughtful and critical way.


Pretty much.

I usually dismiss theories like this that spit in the face of easily verifiable physics, myself. But, I think other conspiracy theories should be taken more seriously.