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Postby Pilarcraft » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:56 pm

Skippityboobopistan wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:See, this is what happens when you don't fund education. This is what happens when your high schools are this subpar. People legitimately start taking 2000 year old books literally and believe in it (and start lobbying to make sure their belief becomes the state-sponsored truth, of course). That's how you get Anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers and creationists.
[let's face it, the primary reason to think that The Earth is flat is biblical literalism]
At this point, I'm not even surprised. Apart from ranting about it, I'm not sure if I really even care anymore. America's starting to become a lost cause educationally speaking.

Agreed. Though I think the Flat Earth "movement" isn't as big as we think it is. Certainly there are likely quite a few who do buy into it, but I think it's mostly trolls.
When they're big enough you can put them on paper (well, you know what I mean), then you can see we have a problem. But again, Flat Earthers aren't even that big a threat. they are, however, the least dangerous symptom of a disease that can, and does, kill societies.
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Postby Soviet Libertarian New England » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:58 pm

If the earth was actually a flat round disk, we would all be stuck to the exact center of it by gravity.

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Postby Ny Scandinavia » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:58 pm

Let them believe the Earth is flat. Let them believe that the government is lying to them and that it's all a conspiracy to give them autism through a poisoned water supply or whatever the hell these people believe. They will only ever make things worse for themselves and become incredibly depressed upon realising the truth.
That's if they do believe it of course, personally I think it's just a bunch of people all trying to troll each other by competing to sound the most stupid.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:01 pm

KankerKoudLand wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So it seems the notion of a flat Earth has seen a comeback and is a growing movement in the United States and other countries.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-col ... story.html

It boggles the mind how one can be so ignorant and uniformed to believe the Earth is flat. It was known even during the time of Ancient Greece Ptolemy, Aristotle and Pythagoras used calculations of the earth's shadow during lunar eclipses to conclude the Earth was round. Another Greek mathematician Eratosthenes realized the earth was round because during the solstice in Alexandria, Eqypt there was a shadow cast by a stick in the ground but in the city of Syene (now Aswan) which was further south as there was no shadow as the sun was at a different angle. Therefore he concluded the Earth was round. This would not be the case if the Earth was flat.

But some of these people go even further they not only believe the Earth is flat, they don't think satellites or the International Space Station exists, the Apollo landings never happened, the Earth is the center of the universe, and gravity isn't real.

The fact that this movement is growing and people have such ignorance of science and facts is frightening. I would suggest these people visit a museum but they'd probably say its all fake anyway designed to continue deceiving people.

What's your thoughts NSG? Why has this movement been growing and how could someone honestly believe the Earth is flat when its been known for over 2,000 years that its not?


I love it. It may be bullshit, but it's WAY better than everyone just following the elite's narrative like total zombies.


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Postby Pilarcraft » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:01 pm

like, I'm genuinely confused though. What, apart from stupid religious literalism, is there to even remotely support a Flat Earth? like, I would try and understand if they said it was like, not spherical (because, well, it's not a perfect sphere) but honestly flat is just plain dumb. It's a huge object hanging in space. you can't get huge hanging-in-space flat objects. I'm 78% sure it's phyiscally impossible.
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Postby Kramanica » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:01 pm

The Rich Port wrote:A movement begun as a joke that eventually became distressingly and embarassingly real.

So, the Donald Trump presidency, basically.

I award you the Doping Trump In To Things That Don't Involve Him Award. Congratulations.
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Didn't you hear? They have members all around the globe.
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Kramanica wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:A movement begun as a joke that eventually became distressingly and embarassingly real.

So, the Donald Trump presidency, basically.

I award you the Doping Trump In To Things That Don't Involve Him Award. Congratulations.

I'm pretty sure the election of Trump is another symptom of the same disease. Voting someone without any form of political experience is as anti-intellectual and society-damning as believing in a Flat earth is.
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The Rich Port wrote:
KankerKoudLand wrote:
I love it. It may be bullshit, but it's WAY better than everyone just following the elite's narrative like total zombies.


Ah, yes, that ivory tower elite narrative called BASIC FACTS.

Haven't you heard? facts are for losers and the weak!
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:05 pm

Pilarcraft wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I award you the Doping Trump In To Things That Don't Involve Him Award. Congratulations.

I'm pretty sure the election of Trump is another symptom of the same disease. Voting someone without any form of political experience is as anti-intellectual and society-damning as believing in a Flat earth is.

But we have a thread - a MAGAthread, indeed - where President Trump's fitness for office or lack thereof may be debated. To date, 5,367 pages of debate.
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Postby Kramanica » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:07 pm

Pilarcraft wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I award you the Doping Trump In To Things That Don't Involve Him Award. Congratulations.

I'm pretty sure the election of Trump is another symptom of the same disease. Voting someone without any form of political experience is as anti-intellectual and society-damning as believing in a Flat earth is.

*snickers*

No, electing Trump isn't as bad as believing the earth is flat. The two aren't even comparable.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:08 pm

Pilarcraft wrote:
Kramanica wrote:I award you the Doping Trump In To Things That Don't Involve Him Award. Congratulations.

I'm pretty sure the election of Trump is another symptom of the same disease. Voting someone without any form of political experience is as anti-intellectual and society-damning as believing in a Flat earth is.


You hit the nail on the head.

Trump himself is a borderline conspiracy theorist if not an out-and-out Tinfoil Hat Brotherhood member himself.

He is one of several Tea Party small-timers that saw a surge in popularity in response to PERCEIVED grievances against the "establishment". Wasn't he babbling on about declassifying UFOs or this and that when he was elected?

INB4 he comes out as a Flat Earth member too...
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Most Flat Earners use this model:
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Aureumterra wrote:Most Flat Earners use this model:
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This physically hurts to look at.
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With the souther stars around the sides, and the northern stars on top. This has MANY flaws
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:12 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Most Flat Earners use this model

snip


You know what this reminds me of.

That guy who though time and the Earth were cubists.

Gene Ray I think his name was.
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We should have a Discord for this
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People in the 21st century can't figure out what people knew 2000 years ago.

We've failed. We have to go back and stop this.
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Kramanica wrote:People in the 21st century can't figure out what people knew 2000 years ago.

We've failed. We have to go back and stop this.


Q COULD have stopped the development of humanity in the final episode of TNG with the anomaly, but noOOOOOOOoo...
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Postby Aillyria » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:25 pm

Soviet Libertarian New England wrote:If the earth was actually a flat round disk, we would all be stuck to the exact center of it by gravity.

Most Flat Earthers don't believe in gravity.

Ny Scandinavia wrote:Let them believe the Earth is flat. Let them believe that the government is lying to them and that it's all a conspiracy to give them autism through a poisoned water supply or whatever the hell these people believe. They will only ever make things worse for themselves and become incredibly depressed upon realising the truth.
That's if they do believe it of course, personally I think it's just a bunch of people all trying to troll each other by competing to sound the most stupid.

While I'm not one to usually shoot down divergent ideas, I've done my own research: a Flat Earth is physically and mathematically impossible according to what we do know about the planet. If there is hard evidence contrary to your assertion, your idea becomes false. That's not saying conspiracy theories are to be dismissed immediately, we should entertain those that are within the realm of feasibility.
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Postby Xmara » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:26 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Most Flat Earners use this model:
(Image)


Still doesn’t explain why it’s daytime on one side and night on the other.

Anyway, I can’t stand flat earthers. What would be the purpose of the government lying about the shape of the earth? What would they gain?
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We're all wrong.
The Earth is most definitely a triangular based seven dimensional elongated hypercube.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:27 pm

Xmara wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Most Flat Earners use this model:
(Image)


Still doesn’t explain why it’s daytime on one side and night on the other.

Anyway, I can’t stand flat earthers. What would be the purpose of the government lying about the shape of the earth? What would they gain?

I think the disk revolves under the dome, see ...

And they gain mind control. If they can make you believe the world is round, they can sell you anything.
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Postby Xmara » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:29 pm

The earth is obviously a liquid blob floating through space
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