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by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:17 am
by Salandriagado » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:28 am
by Liriena » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:32 am
Northern Davincia wrote:Liriena wrote:You mean in the ideal, perfectly transparent and atomized free market that doesn't actually exist and would most likely not be born from this privatization?
A consumer's ability to dictate the quality and availability of services in a privatized system will largely depend on how much genuine competition there is (i.e. the system better not be a monopoly, an oligopoly, or a monopolistic competition model like cable companies), and how committed to accurately informing consumers the system is... which history teaches us it generally isn't. There's often a vast, vast difference between what's advertised to consumers and told to the media and what's said to shareholders (see: how private prisons advertise themselves to their clients as skilled rehabilitators while telling their investors that business is great because of all the recidivism and demanding that law enforcement find any excuse possible to arrest people so they can keep a large and profitable prison population).
If you ask me, it's a lot smarter and better for everyone but the greedy bastards in the private sector to cut the middle man and keep these services entirely public and dedicated entirely to providing them to as many people as possible at the highest quality possible, profitability be damned.
You complain about monopolies harming service quality, yet ignore the monopolistic nature of government itself. Why should education be entirely public if people see better alternatives in the private sector?
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by Liriena » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:33 am
Kiwination wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:You complain about monopolies harming service quality, yet ignore the monopolistic nature of government itself. Why should education be entirely public if people see better alternatives in the private sector?
Um...
It's not, and people do. Private schools do exist, people aren't forced to send their kids to a public school, it's just that many cannot afford an alternative. The reason private schooling isn't as widespread as it could be iss because of that somewhat restrictive cost of attending those schools.
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by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:35 am
by Dahon » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:36 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This thread reminds me of all those "No true version of Nazism/Fascism/Communism has been implemented in any country yet" arguments.
by Vassenor » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:01 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This thread reminds me of all those "No true version of Nazism/Fascism/Communism has been implemented in any country yet" arguments.
by Aillyria » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:29 am
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by Thama » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:34 am
Senkaku wrote:So convince a 75%+ majority of the legislature to raise taxes. Shouldn't be so hard if shit's in such bad shape.
Shouldn't be so hard if shit's in such bad shape.
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by Sovaal » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:40 am
by Kernen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:41 am
by Tierra Prime » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:42 am
by Sovaal » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:43 am
by Sovaal » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:44 am
Tierra Prime wrote:You'd think that most people would have a handle on the idea that you need taxes to pay for public services. Money doesn't just grow on trees.
by Vassenor » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:45 am
Tierra Prime wrote:You'd think that most people would have a handle on the idea that you need taxes to pay for public services. Money doesn't just grow on trees.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:45 am
by Sovaal » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:47 am
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Maybe splitting the state in two and make one part Democratic Socialists is a good after all.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:50 am
by Kramanica » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:50 am
by Kernen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:51 am
Kramanica wrote:Then convince the 75% to raise taxes if things are so shit.
by Sovaal » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:51 am
by Kramanica » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:53 am
by Internationalist Bastard » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 am
by Kramanica » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:54 am
Liriena wrote:Kiwination wrote:
Um...
It's not, and people do. Private schools do exist, people aren't forced to send their kids to a public school, it's just that many cannot afford an alternative. The reason private schooling isn't as widespread as it could be iss because of that somewhat restrictive cost of attending those schools.
I would lowkey ban private schools.
by Kernen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:55 am
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