There has been social mobility in the caste system at times. Shudra and Vaishya had managed to become Emperors, or even switch castes at times.
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by Dagashi Shoujo » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:38 am
by Thermodolia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:38 am
Petrasylvania wrote:It's like advocating for feudalism. Anyone who openly does it assumes they will be in the ruling or upper class or caste. Nobody demands the return of feudalism with hopes of being a lowly serf abused by everyone else. Whoever wants a caste system in the West obviously assumes they won't be dhalit.
by Berdan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:44 am
by Sovaal » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:45 am
Dagashi Shoujo wrote:Sovaal wrote:This.
The reason that the caste system has survived so long is that it’s a top down power structure that you can never leave. Even medieval Europe you ‘could’ rise.
There has been social mobility in the caste system at times. Shudra and Vaishya had managed to become Emperors, or even switch castes at times.
by Saiwania » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:47 am
by Berdan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:48 am
Yes well, when the rebel leader says he's a king now you dont dispute him or you die.Dagashi Shoujo wrote:Sovaal wrote:This.
The reason that the caste system has survived so long is that it’s a top down power structure that you can never leave. Even medieval Europe you ‘could’ rise.
There has been social mobility in the caste system at times. Shudra and Vaishya had managed to become Emperors, or even switch castes at times.
by Sovaal » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:49 am
Saiwania wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdGY9UX1Gr8
Some video to add some context to this discussion. It is sad, this Dalit got enough education to become a computer scientist, but he says that no one is willing to hire him for work in that field where he lives, so he is instead forced to labor for 10 or so hours every day to make just a few dollars doing the dirtiest and most undesirable jobs in India, which includes the picking up of dead animals.
And Dalits are unfortunately, at more risk for rape or murder than the other castes are. It is apparently forbidden to marry outside your caste.
by Thermodolia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:51 am
Saiwania wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdGY9UX1Gr8
Some video to add some context to this discussion. It is sad, this Dalit got enough education to become a computer scientist, but he says that no one is willing to hire him for work in that field where he lives, so he is instead forced to labor for 10 or so hours every day to make just a few dollars doing the dirtiest and most undesirable jobs in India, which includes the picking up of dead animals.
And Dalits are unfortunately, at more risk for rape or murder than the other castes are. It is apparently forbidden to marry outside your caste.
by Petrasylvania » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:52 am
Saiwania wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdGY9UX1Gr8
Some video to add some context to this discussion. It is sad, this Dalit got enough education to become a computer scientist, but he says that no one is willing to hire him for work in that field where he lives, so he is instead forced to labor for 10 or so hours every day to make just a few dollars doing the dirtiest and most undesirable jobs in India, which includes the picking up of dead animals.
And Dalits are unfortunately, at more risk for rape or murder than the other castes are. It is apparently forbidden to marry outside your caste.
by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:53 am
Petrasylvania wrote:Saiwania wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdGY9UX1Gr8
Some video to add some context to this discussion. It is sad, this Dalit got enough education to become a computer scientist, but he says that no one is willing to hire him for work in that field where he lives, so he is instead forced to labor for 10 or so hours every day to make just a few dollars doing the dirtiest and most undesirable jobs in India, which includes the picking up of dead animals.
And Dalits are unfortunately, at more risk for rape or murder than the other castes are. It is apparently forbidden to marry outside your caste.
Yet not a peep from Westerners about Hinduism being a barbaric primitive religion.
by Dagashi Shoujo » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:53 am
Sovaal wrote:Dagashi Shoujo wrote:
There has been social mobility in the caste system at times. Shudra and Vaishya had managed to become Emperors, or even switch castes at times.
And I really don’t care. The caste system is retarded, just like the system in place during medieval Europe, and with no real redeeming values imho
Even medieval Europe you ‘could’ rise.
by Sovaal » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:54 am
Petrasylvania wrote:Saiwania wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdGY9UX1Gr8
Some video to add some context to this discussion. It is sad, this Dalit got enough education to become a computer scientist, but he says that no one is willing to hire him for work in that field where he lives, so he is instead forced to labor for 10 or so hours every day to make just a few dollars doing the dirtiest and most undesirable jobs in India, which includes the picking up of dead animals.
And Dalits are unfortunately, at more risk for rape or murder than the other castes are. It is apparently forbidden to marry outside your caste.
Yet not a peep from Westerners about Hinduism being a barbaric primitive religion.
by Sovaal » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:55 am
by Sovaal » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:56 am
by Dagashi Shoujo » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:59 am
that you can never leave. Even medieval Europe you ‘could’ rise.
by Nakena » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:39 am
Republic of Europe wrote:Saiwania wrote:
Where does it say that? What would be the rationale for this? I'd think that there just aren't that many White people in India, so would a White person who is otherwise very unskilled and poorly educated really still qualify as a Brahmin under the Caste system? From what I could gather, it primarily uses social class or occupation to determine who belongs to which caste.
It would seem that there is a clear benefit in that it has clearly defined social hierarchy and roles, but a great disadvantage is that people in the lower castes have no incentive to improve their lot in life.
A society that is more egalitarian, can probably become economically wealthier than a nation that still rigidly adheres to a caste system via bringing the majority of its population up to a higher level of education, which indirectly causes there to be more economic growth and opportunities than would otherwise exist.
When our chaps, whites, went to India, they enforced that all white people are considered to be superior than the natives, as a means to control them. We did it at school. And the caste system uses ancestry to determine who belongs where. You lie, it's considered a crime, as is people from the first 3 classes marry a Dalit.
by Risottia » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:40 am
by Ifreann » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:47 am
Risottia wrote:Teaching both high school and university courses & being light-skinned, that would make me rather Brahmin. If I were Indian, which I ain't.
by Nulla Bellum » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:49 am
by Nakena » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:53 am
by Fartsniffage » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:46 pm
by New haven america » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:05 pm
Saiwania wrote:I figure that there must be something appealing about it, if this system has managed to survive and endure for thousands of years on the Indian subcontinent.
by Krasny-Volny » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:10 pm
by Krasny-Volny » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:12 pm
Dagashi Shoujo wrote:Sovaal wrote:This.
The reason that the caste system has survived so long is that it’s a top down power structure that you can never leave. Even medieval Europe you ‘could’ rise.
There has been social mobility in the caste system at times. Shudra and Vaishya had managed to become Emperors, or even switch castes at times.
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