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Postby Benuty » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:07 am

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Two things you don’t often hear about in the same sentence, an action video game produced by a French company, and the war on white Christians. For those who’s rent aware, the upcoming game (which I’m personally pumped for) will be coming out in March, and be taking place in rural Montana. The games story specifically has you, a police officer, killing an army of Christian Cultists, who according to all the images I’ve seen, are white people you may call “Rednecks”. This has drawn a lot of ire as it being inflammatory in our current political situation. There was even a Change.com petition to have the setting changed to instead have the antagonists be Muslims or to have it take place in Canada, though many think this was trolls. Point is, it is a rather touchy subject right now.
This goes beyond racial tension and and a rising political rift. As I said, the main character is a cop, and my years of playing far cry tells me this officer of the law will kill a lot of people.
All of this being said though, is this bad? Is this going to worsen a problem in the country, or serve as a look at the situation to allow players to view it in a separate environment. Personally, I’m of the mindset it’s fine, especially as many of the members of the resistance who fights the cult are also Christians who are using their right to bear arms to protect their liberties. So, what say you NSG? To edgy to be a good game, an artist look at modern issues, or a video game where the story doesn’t matter?


If I'm ever getting that game and making my character do anything, it's going to the border of the map to run off and get federal authorities.

Which might not be possible as the federal authorities are either unable to do anything about a civil war in Montana or have much bigger fish to fry in the states, and abroad.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:11 am

Cetacea wrote:every iteration of Far Cry has been about playing up stereotypes, so focussing on Merican stereotypes was a natural step

Not to mention every Far Cry has outlandish scenarios so this is hardly the worst of the all.
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Postby Jordkloden » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:33 am

It's an outlandish scenario of course. It's just a silly Far Cry game.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:36 am

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Vassenor wrote:So is this just a rerun of the outrage over Wolfenstein's "Make America Nazi Free Again" stuff?


Wolfenstein was cringey as fuck.

Saw the ending. Yes it was.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:39 am

Donut section wrote:Didn't an earlier game in this series be set in Africa killing a bunch of black peoples?

Y'all gotta stop seeing racism everywhere, fo'real.

Hey.

Plenty of those mercenaries where white.

Son i guess it’s okay to profit off of a country’s civil war then.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:39 am

Benuty wrote:
Zanera wrote:If that’s happening that would probably be a more interesting setting.
If I'm ever getting that game and making my character do anything, it's going to the border of the map to run off and get federal authorities.

Which might not be possible as the federal authorities are either unable to do anything about a civil war in Montana or have much bigger fish to fry in the states, and abroad.
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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Zanera » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:51 pm

Benuty wrote:
Zanera wrote:
If I'm ever getting that game and making my character do anything, it's going to the border of the map to run off and get federal authorities.

Which might not be possible as the federal authorities are either unable to do anything about a civil war in Montana or have much bigger fish to fry in the states, and abroad.


Unless they're at war with North Korea I think the US Federal Government has the resources to put down a cultist insurrection.

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:52 pm

Zanera wrote:
Benuty wrote:Which might not be possible as the federal authorities are either unable to do anything about a civil war in Montana or have much bigger fish to fry in the states, and abroad.


Unless they're at war with North Korea I think the US Federal Government has the resources to put down a cultist insurrection.

IRS wants its tax base yo. And ATF wouldn’t be happy with a bunch of cultist with illegal machine guns. Or a guy flying around with a plane with a minigun.
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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:52 pm

Zanera wrote:Unless they're at war with North Korea I think the US Federal Government has the resources to put down a cultist insurrection.


Maybe they'll let you make a phone call and end the game in ten minutes like in 4.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:54 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Zanera wrote:Unless they're at war with North Korea I think the US Federal Government has the resources to put down a cultist insurrection.


Maybe they'll let you make a phone call and end the game in ten minutes like in 4.

ATF comes in, shoots the dog and saves the day.
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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Skippityboobopistan » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:57 pm

I think it's fine. I personally feel like it could be a nice change of pace, taking a different spin on white supremacist enemies without just having them explicitly be Nazis.

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:58 pm

Skippityboobopistan wrote:I think it's fine. I personally feel like it could be a nice change of pace, taking a different spin on white supremacist enemies without just having them explicitly be Nazis.

I mean I don’t think anything explicitly put them as white supremacists.
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Skippityboobopistan » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:00 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Skippityboobopistan wrote:I think it's fine. I personally feel like it could be a nice change of pace, taking a different spin on white supremacist enemies without just having them explicitly be Nazis.

I mean I don’t think anything explicitly put them as white supremacists.

That's true. I haven't watched the trailer in a while, so I'm a bit iffy on the details. Thanks for pointing that out.

Nonetheless, could be a good change of pace. Something relatively new.

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Postby Zanera » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:00 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Unless they're at war with North Korea I think the US Federal Government has the resources to put down a cultist insurrection.

IRS wants its tax base yo. And ATF wouldn’t be happy with a bunch of cultist with illegal machine guns. Or a guy flying around with a plane with a minigun.


And technicals.
They're an advanced ISIS.

Des-Bal wrote:
Zanera wrote:Unless they're at war with North Korea I think the US Federal Government has the resources to put down a cultist insurrection.


Maybe they'll let you make a phone call and end the game in ten minutes like in 4.


I'd make the call the first time I played in then go back to go about shooting all the cultists and making their Jesus eat shit.

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:01 pm

Skippityboobopistan wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I mean I don’t think anything explicitly put them as white supremacists.

That's true. I haven't watched the trailer in a while, so I'm a bit iffy on the details. Thanks for pointing that out.

Nonetheless, could be a good change of pace. Something relatively new.

Eh, it’s nothing new. Handmaids tale is pretty popular.
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:01 pm

Zanera wrote:
Sovaal wrote:IRS wants its tax base yo. And ATF wouldn’t be happy with a bunch of cultist with illegal machine guns. Or a guy flying around with a plane with a minigun.


And technicals.
They're an advanced ISIS.

Des-Bal wrote:
Maybe they'll let you make a phone call and end the game in ten minutes like in 4.


I'd make the call the first time I played in then go back to go about shooting all the cultists and making their Jesus eat shit.

K

Also, they have nothing on ISIS at its Height.
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”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Skippityboobopistan » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:04 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Skippityboobopistan wrote:That's true. I haven't watched the trailer in a while, so I'm a bit iffy on the details. Thanks for pointing that out.

Nonetheless, could be a good change of pace. Something relatively new.

Eh, it’s nothing new. Handmaids tale is pretty popular.

Never heard of that game. I'm talking more like something new in the mainstream market.

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:05 pm

Skippityboobopistan wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Eh, it’s nothing new. Handmaids tale is pretty popular.

Never heard of that game. I'm talking more like something new in the mainstream market.

It’s a TV show based off a book.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:06 pm

Far Cry 5 is fine, Wolfenstein 2's ending wasn't cringy.

Note that this outrage wasn't done when Bioshock Infinite had you shooting up KKK members.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:08 pm

I’m down to fight anatagonists that aren’t brown middle eastern terrorists or jungle pirates for a change, so I’m looking forward to what FC5 has to offer.
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Vassenor wrote:So is this just a rerun of the outrage over Wolfenstein's "Make America Nazi Free Again" stuff?


Wolfenstein was cringey as fuck.

Nah, it was fine.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:08 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Far Cry 5 is fine, Wolfenstein 2's ending wasn't cringy.

Note that this outrage wasn't done when Bioshock Infinite had you shooting up KKK members.

Bio shock was back in what, 2013? Before the rise of the alt-right we’ve seen now.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Zanera » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:10 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Zanera wrote:
And technicals.
They're an advanced ISIS.



I'd make the call the first time I played in then go back to go about shooting all the cultists and making their Jesus eat shit.

K

Also, they have nothing on ISIS at its Height.


If they're a Christian cult they must have some guy claiming to be Jesus while loading up all his followers were machine guns.

Ah shit I looked it up and ISIS did have aeroplanes.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:10 pm

I wonder how many of the people far crying about this consider Jim Jones, David Koresh and Warren Jeffs personal heroes?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:11 pm

Sovaal wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Far Cry 5 is fine, Wolfenstein 2's ending wasn't cringy.

Note that this outrage wasn't done when Bioshock Infinite had you shooting up KKK members.

Bio shock was back in what, 2013? Before the rise of the alt-right we’ve seen now.


Yeah, back in 2013.

Good pont, even more reason why the Alt right needs to go away.

Can't even shoot KKK members or nazis in video games without those morons getting triggered.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:12 pm

Zanera wrote:
Sovaal wrote:K

Also, they have nothing on ISIS at its Height.


If they're a Christian cult they must have some guy claiming to be Jesus while loading up all his followers were machine guns.

Not necessarily. There’s plenty of such cults but you also get guys who preach what they say is the true way.

Ah shit I looked it up and ISIS did have aeroplanes.

ISIS has an entire pseudo-state and thousands of soldiers backing it.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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