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Postby Kramanica » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:29 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Kramanica wrote:Your joke is lost on me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_This_Way_(song)

Ah.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:29 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thats fucking stupid.
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Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

So are those.

Depends on their validity. So far, Muslim Islamic scholars have graded them as sahih (true, no mistakes in narration), so I - and other Muslims, depends on who you ask - take them as true.
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The New California Republic wrote:No, there really isn't...


I don't know about Islam, but in Judaism and Christianity, they have their facts straight. God is explicitly shown to be right-handed. Demons and Satan are implied to be left-handed.

Same in Al-Islam :hug:
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Trumptonium wrote:what's the point of being left-handed anyway?

it's beyond unacceptable in business to shake with your left-hand, it makes steering more difficult, it makes it much more likely for you to be uncomfortable (and a burden) to people sitting next to you on a table ... are there any benefits?

It's genetic, you can't just choose to be right handed.

My 4th grade teacher told me that some girl's dad taught her to be right-handed. I'm pretty sure people can change from left-handed to right-handed with practice and time.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:30 pm

Shit, they are onto us.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:33 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:Shit, they are onto us.

We told you not to go out at night.
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:34 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thats fucking stupid.

So are those.

Depends on their validity. So far, Muslim Islamic scholars have graded them as sahih (true, no mistakes in narration), so I - and other Muslims, depends on who you ask - take them as true.
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:(or Allah, I presume)

Your presumption is correct ;)
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:
I don't know about Islam, but in Judaism and Christianity, they have their facts straight. God is explicitly shown to be right-handed. Demons and Satan are implied to be left-handed.

Same in Al-Islam :hug:
Qroma wrote:It's genetic, you can't just choose to be right handed.

My 4th grade teacher told me that some girl's dad taught her to be right-handed. I'm pretty sure people can change from left-handed to right-handed with practice and time.

No one wants to do that.
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Postby Skyhooked » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:35 pm

Well, usually drink from my glass with left hand. Where are my adorable, little red horns and pitchfork?
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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:35 pm

Al-Ismailiyya wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Doesn't say that only demons eat and drink with their left hand, just that demons do. Although I am surprised Islam considers demons to be corporeal entities.

Many consider shayateen to be jinn, which can interact in a tactile manner with people and objects and also subject to bodily desires like eating and sleeping

Isn't Satan an Abrahamic figure while the Jinn comes from pre Islamic Arabia don't they?

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:36 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
Al-Ismailiyya wrote:Many consider shayateen to be jinn, which can interact in a tactile manner with people and objects and also subject to bodily desires like eating and sleeping

Isn't Satan an Abrahamic figure while the Jinn comes from pre Islamic Arabia don't they?

https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/ ... d-of-jinn/
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Shit, they are onto us.

We told you not to go out at night.

I have been banging the extra wives, no wonder they hate lefties.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:38 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thats fucking stupid.

So are those.

Depends on their validity. So far, Muslim Islamic scholars have graded them as sahih (true, no mistakes in narration), so I - and other Muslims, depends on who you ask - take them as true.

Thats still fucking stupid.

Being left handed is not a fucking sign of wickedness, regardless of what any hand me down holy book says.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:39 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:We told you not to go out at night.

I have been banging the extra wives, no wonder they hate lefties.

Ethel! :eek:
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:41 pm

*looks at left hand*

Well shit, I guess I'll phone up Satan and book my trip to Hell on Trivago!

Y'know, crap like this makes me question if Satan really is the bad guy...at least he doesn't judge me for using my left hand.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:45 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Depends on their validity. So far, Muslim Islamic scholars have graded them as sahih (true, no mistakes in narration), so I - and other Muslims, depends on who you ask - take them as true.

Thats still fucking stupid.

Says who?
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Being left handed is not a fucking sign of wickedness, regardless of what any hand me down holy book says.

Well, the Holy Qur'an was handed down, so idk how that's supposed to be an insult.
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:*looks at left hand*

Well shit, I guess I'll phone up Satan and book my trip to Hell on Trivago!

Y'know, crap like this makes me question if Satan really is the bad guy...at least he doesn't judge me for using my left hand.

No, Shaytan (la) judges you for believing in Allah (SWT) and obeying him.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:48 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I have been banging the extra wives, no wonder they hate lefties.

Ethel! :eek:


It makes a lot more sense this way.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:49 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thats still fucking stupid.

Says who?

Says anyone who doesn't follow Islam, or any of the Abrahamic religions that interpret left-handedness to be associated with Satan.

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Being left handed is not a fucking sign of wickedness, regardless of what any hand me down holy book says.

Well, the Holy Qur'an was handed down, so idk how that's supposed to be an insult.

I don't like hand-me-downs, never have.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:49 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thats still fucking stupid.

Says who?
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Being left handed is not a fucking sign of wickedness, regardless of what any hand me down holy book says.

Well, the Holy Qur'an was handed down, so idk how that's supposed to be an insult.
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:*looks at left hand*

Well shit, I guess I'll phone up Satan and book my trip to Hell on Trivago!

Y'know, crap like this makes me question if Satan really is the bad guy...at least he doesn't judge me for using my left hand.

No, Shaytan (la) judges you for believing in Allah (SWT) and obeying him.

Rational fucking people thats who.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:50 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Says who?

Says anyone who doesn't follow Islam, or any of the Abrahamic religions that interpret left-handedness to be associated with Satan.

So, not Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) (possibly).
Gotcha.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Pope Joan » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:51 pm

But is not Turkey supposed to be a secular state?

Of course, so is Israel, yet they also are of the devil.
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Postby Aillyria » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:54 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:https://sunnah.com/nasai/48/20
https://sunnah.com/urn/1273740
https://sunnah.com/muslim/2/82
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/1/32
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/2/369
Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

Basis yes, but it says nothing about banning people from eating with their left hand. Not to mention the hadith are garbage.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:55 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Says anyone who doesn't follow Islam, or any of the Abrahamic religions that interpret left-handedness to be associated with Satan.

So, not Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) (possibly).
Gotcha.

No, so what? What does that have to do with anything?
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:56 pm

Pope Joan wrote:But is not Turkey supposed to be a secular state?

No, it isn't
Aillyria wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:https://sunnah.com/nasai/48/20
https://sunnah.com/urn/1273740
https://sunnah.com/muslim/2/82
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/1/32
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/2/369
Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

Basis yes, but it says nothing about banning people from eating with their left hand.

I'm pretty sure sure on of the ahadith I linked talked about that. But even if they didn't, they pretty much did
Aillyria wrote:Not to mention the hadith are garbage.

Depends on which ahadith you're talking about
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:57 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:So, not Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) (possibly).
Gotcha.

No, so what? What does that have to do with anything?

Whatever someone says is moot if it doesn't line up with Al-Islam.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Krasny-Volny » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:58 pm

Olthar wrote:I am right handed, but I often eat with my left as my right is busy on my phone.


Put your phone away at the supper table, sweetheart.
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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:58 pm

Pope Joan wrote:But is not Turkey supposed to be a secular state?

Of course, so is Israel, yet they also are of the devil.

It wasn't until the horrible Islamist Erdogan took over. It was secular under the great nationalist leader Ataturk.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:00 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:But is not Turkey supposed to be a secular state?

Of course, so is Israel, yet they also are of the devil.

It wasn't until the horrible Islamist Erdogan took over. It was secular under the great nationalist leader Ataturk.

Erdogan isn't really an Islamist imo. But by the looks of it Turkey does seems to be coming back to its roots AlHamdulillah.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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