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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:44 pm

Doesn't say that only demons eat and drink with their left hand, just that demons do. Although I am surprised Islam considers demons to be corporeal entities.
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Postby Al-Ismailiyya » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:47 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Doesn't say that only demons eat and drink with their left hand, just that demons do. Although I am surprised Islam considers demons to be corporeal entities.

Many consider shayateen to be jinn, which can interact in a tactile manner with people and objects and also subject to bodily desires like eating and sleeping

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Postby Grand Britannia » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:49 pm

The one thing I can agree on with Turkey.
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:49 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:https://sunnah.com/nasai/48/20
https://sunnah.com/urn/1273740
https://sunnah.com/muslim/2/82
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/1/32
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/2/369
Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

That's stupid and I will continue to be a lefty.
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Postby Al-Ismailiyya » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:50 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:https://sunnah.com/nasai/48/20
https://sunnah.com/urn/1273740
https://sunnah.com/muslim/2/82
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/1/32
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/2/369
Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

That's stupid and I will continue to be a lefty.

One thing we can actually agree on.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:51 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:https://sunnah.com/nasai/48/20
https://sunnah.com/urn/1273740
https://sunnah.com/muslim/2/82
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/1/32
https://sunnah.com/abudawud/2/369
Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

That's stupid and I will continue to be a lefty.

Non-Muslims aren't subject to Al-Islam so idk why you're saying it like that's a sign of protest.
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kramanica » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:52 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Kramanica wrote:That's stupid and I will continue to be a lefty.

Non-Muslims aren't subject to Al-Islam so idk why you're saying it like that's a sign of protest.

Because I feel bad for people in Islamic countries who are subjected to it.
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Postby Baalkistann » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:53 pm

Wtf Turkey?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:53 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

No, there really isn't...
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Postby Great Pannonia » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:54 pm

C’mon Turkey, do you REALLY wnat to be hated again?

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Postby Jordkloden » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:59 pm

Great Pannonia wrote:C’mon Turkey, do you REALLY wnat to be hated again?

>implying they weren't already hated again bc muh edrogan
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:59 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Non-Muslims aren't subject to Al-Islam so idk why you're saying it like that's a sign of protest.

Because I feel bad for people in Islamic countries who are subjected to it.

I don't think anyone in any 'Islamic' countries are being enforced to do this.
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Kubumba Tribe wrote:Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

No, there really isn't...

Says who?
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:02 pm

This is a bad conclusion- being left-handed is not evil -but theologically (at least in Judaism and Christianity), he's right.

Satan and all demons are left-handed. In my religion, God is explicitly listed as right-handed and that's considered the default. Men extend the "Right Hand of Fellowship" when greeting other members, even if they are left-handed. God welcomes those into Heaven with an outstretched Right Hand. An unwritten assumption in the Ancient Church was that He, in turn, directed the condemned to Hell with His Left Hand.

Consider the following:
  • The words "left", "left-handed", and the word "sinister" have the exact same etymology. (The words "right", "right-handed", and the word "Dexter" all have the same etymology, although 'Dexter" is obsolete outside a person's name.)
  • Satan was always traditionally depicted as left-handed in the days of old
  • Ninety percent of all humans are right-handed
  • It's bad etiquette to shake hands with the left hand

The clergyman is absolutely correct that God (or Allah, I presume) is right-handed.

He is incorrect to say that one who is left-handed is evil.
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:03 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

No, there really isn't...


I don't know about Islam, but in Judaism and Christianity, they have their facts straight. God is explicitly shown to be right-handed. Demons and Satan are implied to be left-handed, though it is not stated in the Bible.

The word "left" and "sinister" have the same root.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:07 pm

Thats fucking stupid.
Kubumba Tribe wrote:https://sunnah.com/nasai/48/20
https://sunnah.com/urn/1273740
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https://sunnah.com/abudawud/1/32
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Now idk about them calling the use of the left hand as "demonic", but there is some basis for their reasoning.

So are those.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:13 pm

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Postby Kramanica » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:16 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:No, there really isn't...


I don't know about Islam, but in Judaism and Christianity, they have their facts straight. God is explicitly shown to be right-handed. Demons and Satan are implied to be left-handed, though it is not stated in the Bible.

The word "left" and "sinister" have the same root.

I'm left handed.

What's that make me?
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Postby Trumptonium » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:17 pm

what's the point of being left-handed anyway?

it's beyond unacceptable in business to shake with your left-hand, it makes steering more difficult, it makes it much more likely for you to be uncomfortable (and a burden) to people sitting next to you on a table ... are there any benefits?
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:21 pm

Trumptonium wrote:what's the point of being left-handed anyway?

it's beyond unacceptable in business to shake with your left-hand, it makes steering more difficult, it makes it much more likely for you to be uncomfortable (and a burden) to people sitting next to you on a table ... are there any benefits?

There doesn't need to be a point to it.

It's just how people develop.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:21 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:what's the point of being left-handed anyway?

it's beyond unacceptable in business to shake with your left-hand, it makes steering more difficult, it makes it much more likely for you to be uncomfortable (and a burden) to people sitting next to you on a table ... are there any benefits?

There doesn't need to be a point to it.

It's just how people develop.

Yeah, sure thing, Lady Gaga.
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Postby Qroma » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:22 pm

Trumptonium wrote:what's the point of being left-handed anyway?

it's beyond unacceptable in business to shake with your left-hand, it makes steering more difficult, it makes it much more likely for you to be uncomfortable (and a burden) to people sitting next to you on a table ... are there any benefits?

It's genetic, you can't just choose to be right handed.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:22 pm

Kramanica wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:what's the point of being left-handed anyway?

it's beyond unacceptable in business to shake with your left-hand, it makes steering more difficult, it makes it much more likely for you to be uncomfortable (and a burden) to people sitting next to you on a table ... are there any benefits?

There doesn't need to be a point to it.

It's just how people develop.

It was clearly done to annoy people.
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:23 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Kramanica wrote:There doesn't need to be a point to it.

It's just how people develop.

It was clearly done to annoy people.

Maybe right handed people are the wrong ones?
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Postby Kramanica » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:24 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Kramanica wrote:There doesn't need to be a point to it.

It's just how people develop.

Yeah, sure thing, Lady Gaga.

Your joke is lost on me.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:28 pm

Kramanica wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Yeah, sure thing, Lady Gaga.

Your joke is lost on me.

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