F1 to no longer feature "grid girls"

[Kramanica]

I mean, I don't know, maybe people outside of these old dudes don't think it's outdated. That's a possibility.

And Nickelback still sells out auditoriums. So what?

So maybe it's a stupid and pointless move that cost women their jobs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not everyone exists inside your personal echo chamber.

[Cannot think of a name]

And Nickelback still sells out auditoriums. So what?

So maybe it's a stupid and pointless move that cost women their jobs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not everyone exists inside your personal echo chamber.

So, if I’m following...”some” might not find it outdated and so that means we definitely should do it for this nebulous “some” and that definitely wouldn’t be an echo chamber because we’re doing something that doesn’t fit the brand anymore for “some” that don’t think that and that’s how we get out of an echo chamber? Seems legit.

Bonus points for those crocodile tears. I mean, it’s silly no matter how you slice it. Either you know full well that this is only one of the many modeling gigs they have during the year or you want to sell a sob story about 18 women who only had to work 17 days a year losing that job...which...boo hoo. On top of almost none of you giving the first shit about racing or F1.

[Kramanica]

So maybe it's a stupid and pointless move that cost women their jobs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Not everyone exists inside your personal echo chamber.

So, if I’m following...”some” might not find it outdated and so that means we definitely should do it for this nebulous “some” and that definitely wouldn’t be an echo chamber because we’re doing something that doesn’t fit the brand anymore for “some” that don’t think that and that’s how we get out of an echo chamber? Seems legit.

Bonus points for those crocodile tears. I mean, it’s silly no matter how you slice it. Either you know full well that this is only one of the many modeling gigs they have during the year or you want to sell a sob story about 18 women who only had to work 17 days a year losing that job...which...boo hoo. On top of almost none of you giving the first shit about racing or F1.

I get it, bro. Some women lose a bit that they liked but you don't give a shit and anyone who points that out is just crying crocodile tears. But hey, it's """""outdated""""" and you saved these women from the great evil of, you know, making money.

Virtue Signallers: The Heroes Nobody Asked For

[Cannot think of a name]

So, if I’m following...”some” might not find it outdated and so that means we definitely should do it for this nebulous “some” and that definitely wouldn’t be an echo chamber because we’re doing something that doesn’t fit the brand anymore for “some” that don’t think that and that’s how we get out of an echo chamber? Seems legit.

Bonus points for those crocodile tears. I mean, it’s silly no matter how you slice it. Either you know full well that this is only one of the many modeling gigs they have during the year or you want to sell a sob story about 18 women who only had to work 17 days a year losing that job...which...boo hoo. On top of almost none of you giving the first shit about racing or F1.

I get it, bro. Some women lose a bit that they liked but you don't give a shit and anyone who points that out is just crying crocodile tears. But hey, it's """""outdated""""" and you saved these women from the great evil of, you know, making money.

Virtue Signallers: The Heroes Nobody Asked For

F1 is not a charity, it’s not supporting hard luck women as an act of altruism. It’s a billion dollar organization built almost entirely on reputation. This exaggerated cry about those poor (fairly well off even without this gig) women was never an issue, it was F1s image. You cats are the only ones trying to grab the virtue bouy to save your inflated concerns about a thing you were barely aware of going away.

And goddam is it not entertaining to watch your stretch Armstrong antics to justify it. Including stepping in your own turds.

[Kramanica]

I get it, bro. Some women lose a bit that they liked but you don't give a shit and anyone who points that out is just crying crocodile tears. But hey, it's """""outdated""""" and you saved these women from the great evil of, you know, making money.

Virtue Signallers: The Heroes Nobody Asked For

F1 is not a charity, it’s not supporting hard luck women as an act of altruism. It’s a billion dollar organization built almost entirely on reputation. This exaggerated cry about those poor (fairly well off even without this gig) women was never an issue, it was F1s image. You cats are the only ones trying to grab the virtue bouy to save your inflated concerns about a thing you were barely aware of going away.

And goddam is it not entertaining to watch your stretch Armstrong antics to justify it. Including stepping in your own turds.

Was it, like, cutting into their bottom line or something? I don't get it. Besides a handful of virtue Signallers who got their skivvies in a twist about it I don't see much issue.

[Cannot think of a name]

F1 is not a charity, it’s not supporting hard luck women as an act of altruism. It’s a billion dollar organization built almost entirely on reputation. This exaggerated cry about those poor (fairly well off even without this gig) women was never an issue, it was F1s image. You cats are the only ones trying to grab the virtue bouy to save your inflated concerns about a thing you were barely aware of going away.

And goddam is it not entertaining to watch your stretch Armstrong antics to justify it. Including stepping in your own turds.

Was it, like, cutting into their bottom line or something? I don't get it. Besides a handful of virtue Signallers who got their skivvies in a twist about it I don't see much issue.

Only need a handful when that handful is on the board and decides it doesn’t fit their brand. Seeing as it’s their brand.

[Kramanica]

Was it, like, cutting into their bottom line or something? I don't get it. Besides a handful of virtue Signallers who got their skivvies in a twist about it I don't see much issue.

Only need a handful when that handful is on the board and decides it doesn’t fit their brand. Seeing as it’s their brand.

I know. Can't excuse incompetence. Pity.

[Cannot think of a name]

Only need a handful when that handful is on the board and decides it doesn’t fit their brand. Seeing as it’s their brand.

I know. Can't excuse incompetence. Pity.

I don’t think anyone at F1 is losing sleep because a group of non-race fans lost their shit over a thing they were barely if at all aware of.

[Kramanica]

I know. Can't excuse incompetence. Pity.

I don’t think anyone at F1 is losing sleep because a group of non-race fans lost their shit over a thing they were barely if at all aware of.

Yes, yes, we get it. You assume pretty much anyone who disagrees with this is a non-racing fan who didn't know about it. Run along, sport.

And, and you also equate "disagree" with "losing their shit".

[Cannot think of a name]

I don’t think anyone at F1 is losing sleep because a group of non-race fans lost their shit over a thing they were barely if at all aware of.

Yes, yes, we get it. You assume pretty much anyone who disagrees with this is a non-racing fan who didn't know about it. Run along, sport.

And, and you also equate "disagree" with "losing their shit".

Read the thread. The people complaining about don’t know what a grid girl does, what a grid is, or what an F1 race is. I’m not projecting, I’m reading the available material. And a dude here literally characterized it as an assault on his boner. This many pages on a thing they don’t even have the basics on? Don’t at all feel bad calling that “losing their shit.”

Get a tissue. Your concerns are dumb and worthy of mockery.

[Kramanica]

Yes, yes, we get it. You assume pretty much anyone who disagrees with this is a non-racing fan who didn't know about it. Run along, sport.

And, and you also equate "disagree" with "losing their shit".

Read the thread. The people complaining about don’t know what a grid girl does, what a grid is, or what an F1 race is. I’m not projecting, I’m reading the available material. And a dude here literally characterized it as an assault on his boner. This many pages on a thing they don’t even have the basics on? Don’t at all feel bad calling that “losing their shit.”

Get a tissue. Your concerns are dumb and worthy of mockery.

This may come as something of a shock, but these people aren't representative of me so I don't really care what others think. I'm not multiple people, and thus far you haven't given a valid reason for why my concerns are dumb. In fact, your entire existence in this thread is predicated on mocking others rather than actually providing reasoning for your positions. Pathetic.

[Dumb Ideologies]

First the halo, now removing the grid girls.

This is what happens when classless Americans with no regard for history are put in charge of a sport.

Next new rule: every driver must get out of the car during the pitstop, fire one hundred bullets for no fucking reason, eat an apple pie, and film an advert for diet pills.

[Cannot think of a name]

Read the thread. The people complaining about don’t know what a grid girl does, what a grid is, or what an F1 race is. I’m not projecting, I’m reading the available material. And a dude here literally characterized it as an assault on his boner. This many pages on a thing they don’t even have the basics on? Don’t at all feel bad calling that “losing their shit.”

Get a tissue. Your concerns are dumb and worthy of mockery.

This may come as something of a shock, but these people aren't representative of me so I don't really care what others think. I'm not multiple people,

You are, however, part of a multi-person conversation that you interjected yourself into and questioned my characterization of the people in the thread...surely you understand these simple concepts and weren’t desperately reaching for some feeble branch to hang onto...

and thus far you haven't given a valid reason for why my concerns are dumb. In fact, your entire existence in this thread is predicated on mocking others rather than actually providing reasoning for your positions. Pathetic.

Squeezing your eyes and jamming your fingers into your ears isn’t the same thing as me not saying anything. Points for trying to make it personal, though. But, you’re not my real dad, so...

[Sovaal]

First the halo, now removing the grid girls.

This is what happens when classless Americans with no regard for history are put in charge of a sport.

Next new rule: every driver must get out of the car during the pitstop, fire one hundred bullets for no fucking reason, eat an apple pie, and film an advert for diet pills.

Sign me up.

[Kramanica]

This may come as something of a shock, but these people aren't representative of me so I don't really care what others think. I'm not multiple people,

You are, however, part of a multi-person conversation that you interjected yourself into and questioned my characterization of the people in the thread...surely you understand these simple concepts and weren’t desperately reaching for some feeble branch to hang onto...

Surely you can differentiate between individuals and groups of people in a conversation. It isn't hard.

and thus far you haven't given a valid reason for why my concerns are dumb. In fact, your entire existence in this thread is predicated on mocking others rather than actually providing reasoning for your positions. Pathetic.

Squeezing your eyes and jamming your fingers into your ears isn’t the same thing as me not saying anything. Points for trying to make it personal, though. But, you’re not my real dad, so...

No, but you not actually making any real points is.

[Cannot think of a name]

You are, however, part of a multi-person conversation that you interjected yourself into and questioned my characterization of the people in the thread...surely you understand these simple concepts and weren’t desperately reaching for some feeble branch to hang onto...

Surely you can differentiate between individuals and groups of people in a conversation. It isn't hard.

Squeezing your eyes and jamming your fingers into your ears isn’t the same thing as me not saying anything. Points for trying to make it personal, though. But, you’re not my real dad, so...

No, but you not actually making any real points is.

What’s that, three posts about each other? Unless we’re gonna start making out...

[Kramanica]

Surely you can differentiate between individuals and groups of people in a conversation. It isn't hard.

No, but you not actually making any real points is.

What’s that, three posts about each other? Unless we’re gonna start making out...

I don't kiss my computer screen. Kinda weird.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Y tho

[The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia]

and is sexist since it slut shames women, who may be empowered by being a sex worker, model, ect.

Eeeeh... while I don't quite agree with SWERFs, that's not an entirely fair assessment. It's not so much about "slut" shaming as it is about sex work being, broadly speaking, an industry brimming with real abuse and exploitation, and not just of female sex workers. While some radfems might go as far as being "sex-negative" in general terms, and you could argue that there's "slut shaming" going on there, when it comes to sex work it's a lot more nuanced.

While I am inclined to believe you on the abuse, especially since its illegal and therefor unchecked, the government should legalize it since the sex workers would have more protection because if they are abused, they cant go to the police or they will be arrested, given STD tests and so on, much like how it is in Europe. Could you please provide an article on a trusted source so I can continue reading about what the video stated?

[Webus]

seems like a non issue

[The New California Republic]

seems like a non issue

Apart from the now unemployed grid girls, I doubt it is a "non issue" for them...

[Cannot think of a name]

seems like a non issue

Apart from the now unemployed grid girls, I doubt it is a "non issue" for them...

They’re still employed, they have other clients. They just don’t have this one. This is also a non-issue.

[The New California Republic]

Apart from the now unemployed grid girls, I doubt it is a "non issue" for them...

They’re still employed, they have other clients. They just don’t have this one. This is also a non-issue.

Meh. Perhaps I should have said "underemployed". But no matter.

[Liriena]

Eeeeh... while I don't quite agree with SWERFs, that's not an entirely fair assessment. It's not so much about "slut" shaming as it is about sex work being, broadly speaking, an industry brimming with real abuse and exploitation, and not just of female sex workers. While some radfems might go as far as being "sex-negative" in general terms, and you could argue that there's "slut shaming" going on there, when it comes to sex work it's a lot more nuanced.

While I am inclined to believe you on the abuse, especially since its illegal and therefor unchecked, the government should legalize it since the sex workers would have more protection because if they are abused, they cant go to the police or they will be arrested, given STD tests and so on, much like how it is in Europe. Could you please provide an article on a trusted source so I can continue reading about what the video stated?

I'll give it a shot. Having spoken to the occasional radical feminist who opposes prostitution, they'd mostly seem to favor the Nordic model. The basics of that model are that sex work is prohibited, but only on the buyers' end, not the sex workers, with the idea being that the economic problems faced by sex workers themselves under such a model would be solved through socialism.

[Liriena]

Fair is fair.

Simultaneously complaining about women being restricted by supposedly feminist attempts at gender equality... while also complaining that feminism is allowing Muslim women to choose how they dress.

There's something not quite coherent there.

I think the point being made is that Islamic countries do not have the greatest of records concerning women, yet they are shifting whereas west where women are (supposedly) empowered and free to do what they want are shifting towards puritanism.

If that was the point, it was not well made.